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Is it impossible for humans to reproduce with Quarians or Turians?


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ReXspec wrote...

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It may be impossible, but my Shep doesn't believe in no-win situations. He's going to try. A lot.


lol same.

Plus if scientists like Mordin exist, I'm sure they can work out some crazy scientific solution if someone REALLY wants a hybrid.


Human and alien DNA is 100% different it cannot be combined period.

We cant even combine our DNA with that of chimpanzees and it is over 98% that same.

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NoSpin wrote...

It may be impossible, but my Shep doesn't believe in no-win situations. He's going to try. A lot.

It's call adoptionand /or seragotes.

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I was just wondering because I always thought it would have been cool for Shepard to have a son or daughter at the end of the games (obviously that's not going to happen). I think I read here and there that Quarians and Turians cannot reproduce with humans (I romanced Tali, and if I played as FemShep I'd romance Garrus). Anyone know if that's true.


Choose synthesis. Then you're impregnating every lifeform in the galaxy.

B)

(Trollllololo - and sorry if someone already said it.)

Modifié par U7tra, 30 avril 2012 - 07:37 .


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Phatose wrote...

Traynor could too. If Miranda can exist without a mother, two mothers shouldn't be a problem for modern technology.

Cortez technically could as well, though you'll need a surrogate mother I assume.

Allers too - clearly possible, since Snooki is pregnant.


Cortez and Traynor are gay and it is widely accepted that two people of the same gender cannot have children unless using the eggs or sperm of a donor but that would mean only one of the two would be biologicaly related.

Miranda's DNA is also 100% the same as her fathers even her second X chromosome was just a modified copy of her other one. This alone cost Mr. Lawson tons and tons and tons of cash and I doubt that Shepard and partner have that kind of money.

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Tom Lehrer wrote...

Phatose wrote...

Traynor could too. If Miranda can exist without a mother, two mothers shouldn't be a problem for modern technology.

Cortez technically could as well, though you'll need a surrogate mother I assume.

Allers too - clearly possible, since Snooki is pregnant.


Cortez and Traynor are gay and it is widely accepted that two people of the same gender cannot have children unless using the eggs or sperm of a donor but that would mean only one of the two would be biologicaly related.

Miranda's DNA is also 100% the same as her fathers even her second X chromosome was just a modified copy of her other one. This alone cost Mr. Lawson tons and tons and tons of cash and I doubt that Shepard and partner have that kind of money.

After saving the galaxy maybe people would do him a few favors

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It's never stated in the lore, but I think it would be possible. However, I don't think it would be the abominations of hybrids everyone's been posting. IMO, there is probably a medication that allows you to chose which species will be produced from conception. For example, Shepard and Tali want to start a family. Shepard can chose to take a medication that will allow him to produce an offspring that is Quarian, or a medication that will produce a human offspring. Since we don't see any sort of hybrids in the ME universe, but do see inter-species couples, I would say that this is the most likely case.

Then again, it's just my fan theory.

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Speaking realistically, it would be easier for you to reproduce with a (Earth) cow.

Not that any sort of fertile offspring would result.



How about a Shifty Looking Cow?


Shifty Looking Cow could take you every which way while your back was turned, and finish a cigarette before you had time to blink.

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schwarzaj wrote...

It's never stated in the lore, but I think it would be possible. However, I don't think it would be the abominations of hybrids everyone's been posting. IMO, there is probably a medication that allows you to chose which species will be produced from conception. For example, Shepard and Tali want to start a family. Shepard can chose to take a medication that will allow him to produce an offspring that is Quarian, or a medication that will produce a human offspring. Since we don't see any sort of hybrids in the ME universe, but do see inter-species couples, I would say that this is the most likely case.

Then again, it's just my fan theory.

hmm I never thought about that

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And this leads me to another issue...inter species romances...does this not strike any one else as odd. Excluding Asari of course. Honestly I'm kind of reminded of bestiality...just saying.

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Just adopt some war orphans and call it good. That was my plan anyway, but Bioware gave me different "choices."

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schwarzaj wrote...

It's never stated in the lore, but I think it would be possible. However, I don't think it would be the abominations of hybrids everyone's been posting. IMO, there is probably a medication that allows you to chose which species will be produced from conception. For example, Shepard and Tali want to start a family. Shepard can chose to take a medication that will allow him to produce an offspring that is Quarian, or a medication that will produce a human offspring. Since we don't see any sort of hybrids in the ME universe, but do see inter-species couples, I would say that this is the most likely case.

Then again, it's just my fan theory.


That dosent make any sense....

In order for two people to reproduce a sperm needs to mix with an egg and a Human sperm canot mix with a Quarian egg just because Shepard took a magic pill. A Quarian body would be openly hostile to a human fetus as well and even if bodily rejection can be over come how would a Quarian body feed a growing Human fetus when they cant even eat human food?

Modifié par Tom Lehrer, 30 avril 2012 - 08:03 .


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joshko wrote...

And this leads me to another issue...inter species romances...does this not strike any one else as odd. Excluding Asari of course. Honestly I'm kind of reminded of bestiality...just saying.

Not for Asari or Quarians to me. But when it gets to scary thoughts like the batarians, salarians, and... the krogan. Yes it does seem to get on the very very weird side. Then again, it's a good thing this is a video game, because in any real inter species romance it would be very ****ed up, even if you are a sexy blue alien.

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I believe it's impossible. For instance, BOTH responses to Garrus' (NOT serious) comment about hybrid babies say that biology won't cooperate. I think that's pretty cut-and-dry.

Adoption or artificial insemination are both viable options, what's the problem? Be a hero, adopt a war orphan. <3

Honestly, I'm glad it's not possible. Google turian-human hybrids and prepare to never sleep again at the sight of some of that fanart. ::shudder::

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Aris Ravenstar wrote...

I believe it's impossible. For instance, BOTH responses to Garrus' (NOT serious) comment about hybrid babies say that biology won't cooperate. I think that's pretty cut-and-dry.

Adoption or artificial insemination are both viable options, what's the problem? Be a hero, adopt a war orphan. <3

Honestly, I'm glad it's not possible. Google turian-human hybrids and prepare to never sleep again at the sight of some of that fanart. ::shudder::

I was leaning more towards the quarian/human kind of hybrid since they both are humanish. But yeah the turian-human baby fan pics are pretty scary

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schwarzaj wrote...

It's never stated in the lore, but I think it would be possible. However, I don't think it would be the abominations of hybrids everyone's been posting. IMO, there is probably a medication that allows you to chose which species will be produced from conception. For example, Shepard and Tali want to start a family. Shepard can chose to take a medication that will allow him to produce an offspring that is Quarian, or a medication that will produce a human offspring. Since we don't see any sort of hybrids in the ME universe, but do see inter-species couples, I would say that this is the most likely case.

Then again, it's just my fan theory.


That medication would have to fundamentally alter the DNA of Shepard to the point where (s)he would become Quarian. To create offspring the DNA needs to be 100% compatible, humans can't even reproduce with chimps, and we're 98% the same.

Edit: Looks like someone above me already made that point

Modifié par sammysoso, 30 avril 2012 - 09:12 .


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Tom Lehrer wrote...

ReXspec wrote...

NoSpin wrote...

It may be impossible, but my Shep doesn't believe in no-win situations. He's going to try. A lot.


lol same.

Plus if scientists like Mordin exist, I'm sure they can work out some crazy scientific solution if someone REALLY wants a hybrid.


Human and alien DNA is 100% different it cannot be combined period.

We cant even combine our DNA with that of chimpanzees and it is over 98% that same.

Actually by ME timeline genesplicing in human society had reached incredible levels, to the point of being able to impart animal caracteristics (such as a tail) to children or creating "quasi-sapient" animals, to protect human genetic diversity though (and stop parents from forcing underage children into cosmetic gene therapy) the Sudham-Wolcot regulations were put in place...

From the codex:

Genetic Engineering
In the 22nd century, manipulation of the human genome became commonplace. Techniques for genetic engineering
advanced to the point where the rich could custom-build fetuses that
grew into stronger, smarter, and more attractive adults. In more
permissive regions, custom-designed life forms and "uplifted" animals
occupied an ill-defined niche between "property" and "sapient being".
Travel to planets with unique forms of life brought an awareness that Earth's
biodiversity could be lost if it spliced and hybridized to gain useful
alien qualities. The Sudham-Wolcott Genetic Heritage Act was passed by
the Systems Alliance
Parliament in 2161. It imposed sharp restrictions on controversial uses
of genetic engineering, but provided government subsidies for
beneficial applications.
SCREENING AND THERAPY: Most governments provide free assessments
and corrective therapy for genetic diseases in prospective parents. This
has nearly eliminated everything from cystic fibrosis to
nearsightedness. The earlier screening and therapy is performed, the
more comprehensive the results. Though ideally performed on artificially
fertilized zygotes in a lab, procedures are available for embryos in
the womb and newborns, out of respect for personal beliefs.
ENHANCEMENT: Improvements of natural human abilities is legal,
but adding new abilities is not. Treatments to improve strength,
reflexes, mental ability, or appearance are permitted; adding a tail or
the ability to digest cellulose is not. Some genetic enhancement is
provided for free to Alliance military recruits, but the average citizen
must pay for the privilege. The process can take years to reach
fruition in an adult.
ENGINEERING: Artificial hybridization of genes from compatible
non-human species with human genetic code is illegal. Creation of
designed life is broadly legal (and mainly used for terraforming and
medical applications), but sentient creatures are heavily regulated, and
creation of sapient life is outlawed by both the Systems Alliance and the Citadel Council.

So really an hybrid could be conceivably be created if you are willing to pay exorbitant sums (and to hire lots of scientists more concerned with money than with ethics), but the very act is illegal, you'll have to go to the Terminus Systems...

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Pride Demon wrote...

Tom Lehrer wrote...

ReXspec wrote...

NoSpin wrote...

It may be impossible, but my Shep doesn't believe in no-win situations. He's going to try. A lot.


lol same.

Plus if scientists like Mordin exist, I'm sure they can work out some crazy scientific solution if someone REALLY wants a hybrid.


Human and alien DNA is 100% different it cannot be combined period.

We cant even combine our DNA with that of chimpanzees and it is over 98% that same.

Actually by ME timeline genesplicing in human society had reached incredible levels, to the point of being able to impart animal caracteristics (such as a tail) to children or creating "quasi-sapient" animals, to protect human genetic diversity though (and stop parents from forcing underage children into cosmetic gene therapy) the Sudham-Wolcot regulations were put in place...

*snip*

So really an hybrid could be conceivably be created if you are willing to pay exorbitant sums (and to hire lots of scientists more concerned with money than with ethics), but the very act is illegal, you'll have to go to the Terminus Systems...


The splicing of DNA from Earth animals is far from the same thing as mixing Human DNA with Quarians or are Dextro based. Even the aliens that are levo would not have the same base pairs we do. 

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Tom Lehrer wrote...

Pride Demon wrote...

Tom Lehrer wrote...

ReXspec wrote...

NoSpin wrote...

It may be impossible, but my Shep doesn't believe in no-win situations. He's going to try. A lot.


lol same.

Plus if scientists like Mordin exist, I'm sure they can work out some crazy scientific solution if someone REALLY wants a hybrid.


Human and alien DNA is 100% different it cannot be combined period.

We cant even combine our DNA with that of chimpanzees and it is over 98% that same.

Actually by ME timeline genesplicing in human society had reached incredible levels, to the point of being able to impart animal caracteristics (such as a tail) to children or creating "quasi-sapient" animals, to protect human genetic diversity though (and stop parents from forcing underage children into cosmetic gene therapy) the Sudham-Wolcot regulations were put in place...

*snip*

So really an hybrid could be conceivably be created if you are willing to pay exorbitant sums (and to hire lots of scientists more concerned with money than with ethics), but the very act is illegal, you'll have to go to the Terminus Systems...


The splicing of DNA from Earth animals is far from the same thing as mixing Human DNA with Quarians or are Dextro based. Even the aliens that are levo would not have the same base pairs we do. 

The main reason for the act was avoiding splicing with alien DNA to obtain useful alien abilities actually...
If it were outright impossible such a note would be useless...
It's however incredibly difficult, costly and illegal, and you are effectively creating a new life form that's neither of its "parent" species, that alone should be cause to pause, what prospect and quality of life could such a creature have?

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Skipping 5 pages of gobbledygook to say: Yes, it is impossible. Adopt. There are already too many people in the galaxy as it is. Look after one that fell through the cracks.

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It would depend on how similar the genetic structures were. Dextro based dna is out, so no turian or quarian hybrids. Most likely hannar and elcor are out as well, since they're not even humanoid. Drell, krogan, salarian, volus, and vorcha are at least humanoid. Depending on chromosome counts, it's within the realm of possibility, though it would probably require extensive genetic manipulation. You couldn't do it naturally, that's for sure.

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It's impossible by definition - a species is defined as

A group of living organisms consisting of similar individuals capable of exchanging genes or interbreeding.



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Can't really reproduce via conventional means, though with the level of genetic science displayed in Mass Effect series where entire species are custom-made and evolved, even bred in adult stages, anything would be possible in a lab, possibly even somehow fertilizing a female Quarian with male human genetic code.

Regardless, they can enjoy themselves sexually. We all know Mordin uploads a document for Shepard on comfortable and enjoyable sexual positions in human-quarian sexual relationships. I just do not think the fecundation can happen, at least without the help of an advanced lab and some good scientists in charge.

Modifié par Shallyah, 01 mai 2012 - 11:19 .


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nitefyre410 wrote...

RoyalGambit wrote...

Drakest3 wrote...

Too bad coz i wanted qumans :D

Adopt some. Not to be morbid, but there's probably plenty of orphans to go around following the reaper invasion. 

  

^ This... 

So much this ... adopt a few orphans one of the each race  major race and have  big happy family.    


As much as I hate to point this out, children in the combat zones wouldn't last long with veteran combat units taking 80-90 percent losses. The Reapers probably scooped them up and made gray goo out of them, indoctrinated them, or just killed them where they found them. The Reapers are not known for their pity or compassion.

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Pride Demon wrote...

The main reason for the act was avoiding splicing with alien DNA to obtain useful alien abilities actually...
If it were outright impossible such a note would be useless...
It's however incredibly difficult, costly and illegal, and you are effectively creating a new life form that's neither of its "parent" species, that alone should be cause to pause, what prospect and quality of life could such a creature have?


It is not incredibly difficult it is down right impossible. Mixing two very differnet kinds of DNA is not possible because they are made out of differnt stuff.

Turians and Quarians cant even eat our food, how would we mix DNA with them? Asari Salerians and all the others dont even have the same base pairs we do meaning a life form with DNA from a Human and one of them is not possible because our DNA is made from differnt stuff.

You can throw as much money at the problem as you want but basic biology simply wont comply.

Modifié par Tom Lehrer, 01 mai 2012 - 05:50 .


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Tom Lehrer wrote...

ReXspec wrote...

NoSpin wrote...

It may be impossible, but my Shep doesn't believe in no-win situations. He's going to try. A lot.


lol same.

Plus if scientists like Mordin exist, I'm sure they can work out some crazy scientific solution if someone REALLY wants a hybrid.


Human and alien DNA is 100% different it cannot be combined period.

We cant even combine our DNA with that of chimpanzees and it is over 98% that same.


Mordin Solus disagrees.

"Please... not difficult."

Modifié par ReXspec, 02 mai 2012 - 04:32 .