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tvman099 wrote...

Nope. If you're playing as dudeShep, you can only have kids of your own with Ashley or Jack. LotSB seems to suggest quite strongly that Miranda's infertility isn't something that can be fixed, which is odd considering that medical science is sufficiently advanced enough to nearly double human lifespans, modify genes, and bring people back from the dead in 2186. But hey, it is what it is.

As grounded as that is in canon, it's still speculation.  As someone wisely put, we have literally no idea what  technological breakthroughs will become available in the ME universe.

Some people call the development of nanites wild speculation, but I say, "Why?  Manipulation of nanites is already possible--the experiments (although heinous experiments) in Sanctuary proved that."

Again, who knows.  Leave it to fan-fiction to draw logical or farfetched conclusions.  lol

[ReXspec]

jdtungsten wrote...

The fanboy/Talimancer in me says the ending had space magic so to fix that give me Shepard and Tali with a happy family. I wouldn't be sad if they weren't hybrids but wouldn't be mad if they were hybrids.

However the scientist in me says it is improbable only because of the whole DNA difference. Although people bring up the dextro amino acids as if that carries the weight of why it is not possible which is in some ways incorrect. The whole reason they eat and produce dextro amino acids is because their DNA tells them to. Saying that humans and Quarians/Turians can't reproduce because of this seems to imply that DNA is made of amino acids when in fact proteins are made of amino acids and DNA tells the cells to produce these proteins. Also it would imply that Turians and Quarians could reproduce if that was the only reason. But of course this is one of the many reason a hybrid is improbable as it is part of DNA the organism has. Though I do like to keep an open mind so I will never say it impossible but the probability is extremely low.

And hypothetical, if this were to occur naturally the DNA that defines the organisms proteins would have to come from the mother or the hybrid will not be able to survive. Thus if the mother is human, the hybrid would produces and eat things that have levo proteins and a Quarian/Turian mother would have a hybrid that produces and eat things that have dextro proteins. However if the hybrid was made in a lab it could be up to the parents what the child would need to eat.

... never thought of it that way before.  Again, going back to the "nanite assisted" theory, I think that significantly increases pregnancy viability and normal child development.  But I also think it was a logical conclusion that you couldn't have a true hybrid--you'd probably end up getting Quarian dominant, or Human dominant offspring.

[Sal86]

Even with advanced lab exipment/genius Salarians, I really don't think it's posible. If you're levo based, every single protein and strand of DNA in your body must have levo chirality in order to fulfil it's function. Vice versa for dextro.

I don't see how you could make levo chromosomes play nice with dextro ones to begin with. Even if compatible pairs could somehow be made, how is the DNA going to work? Is it part levo/part dextro? How? If so, how are you going to get functioning cells when a racemic mixtrure is guaranteed to prodcude defective proteins?

Are dextros even carbon based? I can't remember if that's ever mentioned.

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tvman099 wrote...

Nope. If you're playing as dudeShep, you can only have kids of your own with Ashley or Jack. LotSB seems to suggest quite strongly that Miranda's infertility isn't something that can be fixed, which is odd considering that medical science is sufficiently advanced enough to nearly double human lifespans, modify genes, and bring people back from the dead in 2186. But hey, it is what it is.

and Liara

[tvman099]

DinoSteve wrote...

tvman099 wrote...

Nope. If you're playing as dudeShep, you can only have kids of your own with Ashley or Jack. LotSB seems to suggest quite strongly that Miranda's infertility isn't something that can be fixed, which is odd considering that medical science is sufficiently advanced enough to nearly double human lifespans, modify genes, and bring people back from the dead in 2186. But hey, it is what it is.

and Liara

Those kids would be Liara's, not Shepard's. Asari may be able to reproduce with anything that has a nervous system but the kids are asari through and through. None of of Shepard's genetic material would be passed on. Functionally it's the same as adoption. Shepard can be "the father" but not the father.

Modifié par tvman099, 02 mai 2012 - 06:38 .

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tvman099 wrote...

DinoSteve wrote...

tvman099 wrote...

Nope. If you're playing as dudeShep, you can only have kids of your own with Ashley or Jack. LotSB seems to suggest quite strongly that Miranda's infertility isn't something that can be fixed, which is odd considering that medical science is sufficiently advanced enough to nearly double human lifespans, modify genes, and bring people back from the dead in 2186. But hey, it is what it is.

and Liara

Those kids would be Liara's, not Shepard's. Asari may be able to reproduce with anything that has a nervous system but the kids are asari through and through. None of of Shepard's genetic material would be passed on. Functionally it's the same as adoption. Shepard can be "the father" but not the father.

You are wrong

"During melding, an asari consciously attunes her nervous system to her
partner's, sending and receiving electrical impulses directly through
the skin. A common phrase used before melding is "embrace eternity,"
presumably to help focus the partner's mind. Effectively, the asari and
her partner briefly become one unified nervous system."

masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Asari

[ThatDancingTurian]

Zardoc wrote...

...but it pretty much is. Creating a one-of-a-kind mutant/hybrid that might or might not be capable of living and could have an entire repertoire of physiological and biological problems in addition to psychological problems (like being to only one of his kind, doubt that's easy to take for a kid) in addition to Shepard being willing to create an abomination and playing god just because he wants a kid (which oddly enough reminds me of Miranda's dad, I wonder why...), that is just wrong. And that isn't even taking into account all the resource that would have to be wasted on such a project...

Ugh, why do people always need to bring up biological children for Tali/Garrus romances...

I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels like this. Miranda's dad was an unethical, selfish man. He didn't consider what life would be like for Miranda, he tailor-made his child based solely on his own personal whims and desires. His want for his own 'special' legacy was more important than what was best for his potential offspring. At least in his case he wasn't creating a child to be purposely deformed.

Also, in the case of Garrus you can blame the romance ending. I never thought my Shepard would ever want children, then Garrus said he did and, well... >_>

[tvman099]

DinoSteve wrote...

tvman099 wrote...

DinoSteve wrote...

tvman099 wrote...

Nope. If you're playing as dudeShep, you can only have kids of your own with Ashley or Jack. LotSB seems to suggest quite strongly that Miranda's infertility isn't something that can be fixed, which is odd considering that medical science is sufficiently advanced enough to nearly double human lifespans, modify genes, and bring people back from the dead in 2186. But hey, it is what it is.

and Liara

Those kids would be Liara's, not Shepard's. Asari may be able to reproduce with anything that has a nervous system but the kids are asari through and through. None of of Shepard's genetic material would be passed on. Functionally it's the same as adoption. Shepard can be "the father" but not the father.

You are wrong

"During melding, an asari consciously attunes her nervous system to her
partner's, sending and receiving electrical impulses directly through
the skin. A common phrase used before melding is "embrace eternity,"
presumably to help focus the partner's mind. Effectively, the asari and
her partner briefly become one unified nervous system."

masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Asari

Genetic.

Material.

Any children Liara and Shepard have are 100% full blooded asari. As the asari on Illium states, "Non-asari don't always get that we're not actually taking alien DNA, we're just using it to randomize some of the genetic information". No part of Shepard is passed on in any scenario where he joins with an asari and a child is produced.