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"I've seen some things man." (Thoughts on dark endings)


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I've worked with women like it before. They exist, they are just.......unhealthy. This reminds me of time...........

Everything in life is unhealthy, except in Mass Effect where the average human lifespan is 150 apperently. But I've seen worse in real life, an "advantage" of my job.


She was made to be that way though but she isn't perfect. She's modelled on Miss Strahovski isn't she? I don't know anything about her other than her role in Mass Effect as I've never seen the show she was a part of.

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Taboo-XX wrote...

She was made to be that way though but she isn't perfect. She's modelled on Miss Strahovski isn't she? I don't know anything about her other than her role in Mass Effect as I've never seen the show she was a part of.

Yvonne Strahovski looks pretty normal, only Mirandas face is modelled after her. The rest is pretty much the female standard body model for the ME games combined with a really bad fashion sense.

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Taboo-XX wrote...

StrelokCH wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

I've worked with women like it before. They exist, they are just.......unhealthy. This reminds me of time...........

Everything in life is unhealthy, except in Mass Effect where the average human lifespan is 150 apperently. But I've seen worse in real life, an "advantage" of my job.


She was made to be that way though but she isn't perfect. She's modelled on Miss Strahovski isn't she? I don't know anything about her other than her role in Mass Effect as I've never seen the show she was a part of.

  


She was made that  buy her father...  She was the   Larazus project team lead... so it was her that was the master mind behind   bringing  Shepard back.  

Also... Her character model does do Miss Strahovski justice at all... the skin is too damn pale and the features are just off... 

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She doesn't dress in a way that I haven't seen before which is probably why I don't obsess over the way she dresses.

Who thought you could be too used to tight fitting clothes?

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Taboo-XX wrote...

She doesn't dress in a way that I haven't seen before which is probably why I don't obsess over the way she dresses.

Who thought you could be too used to tight fitting clothes?


You must live in the happiest place on Earth. Or near a beach.

It's more the colour scheme, not the "tightness", although I have to say I still object to the idea of running around in a cameltoe-friendly swimsuit during a firefight.

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StrelokCH wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

She doesn't dress in a way that I haven't seen before which is probably why I don't obsess over the way she dresses.

Who thought you could be too used to tight fitting clothes?


You must live in the happiest place on Earth. Or near a beach.

It's more the colour scheme, not the "tightness", although I have to say I still object to the idea of running around in a cameltoe-friendly swimsuit during a firefight.


Uh, no being on the set for lingerie commercial really changes your perspective on things. Not as cool as it sounds. It's fun at first until you realize you are literally sitting aroung filming half naked women all day. And the things that come out of their mouths........

It is pretty cool though....

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Uh, no being on the set for lingerie commercial really changes your perspective on things. Not as cool as it sounds. It's fun at first until you realize you are literally sitting aroung filming half naked women all day. And the things that come out of their mouths........

It is pretty cool though....

That's why I'm scratching half-dead people off the streets, it gives you a completely new perspective on life.

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some people still believe the ending of "buried" is soooo awesome and artsy

oh and let's not forget the people blaming the americans for being too childish/dumb to appreciate the original superdowner ending of "the descent"


whatever, thank you Bioware...no wait, thank you Casey...hope you are happy that your ending made it for me physically impossible to replay the final chapter of my most beloved franchise


Well those are the sorts of Pillocks which get all in a Tizzy about happy endings. I've never under stood the appeal of the downer ending really. I can understand sacrifice and losing a lot of people in the process for something as harsh as Mass Effect. I'm okay with that.

But the Giant Space Flea from Nowhere Ending we got was a 'Wait. What?" Ending.

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StrelokCH wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Uh, no being on the set for lingerie commercial really changes your perspective on things. Not as cool as it sounds. It's fun at first until you realize you are literally sitting aroung filming half naked women all day. And the things that come out of their mouths........

It is pretty cool though....

That's why I'm scratching half-dead people off the streets, it gives you a completely new perspective on life.


After a while it's just a half-naked person to you. There is nothing sexual about it. That's how I've always seen Miranda. She isn't half naked but you understand what I mean.....

Probably in the minority in this regard though. Most people can't seem to get past the way she dresses and looks.

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After a while it's just a half-naked person to you. There is nothing sexual about it. That's how I've always seen Miranda. She isn't half naked but you understand what I mean.....

Probably in the minority in this regard though. Most people can't seem to get past the way she dresses and looks.

That's the reason she exists in the first place, the same why Ashley got "pimped" in ME3. Still nice they got halfway decent characters, if a little whiney from time to time.

I on the other hand will continue my adventures as Single Shep, drinking with my dude-bro James until I get thrown out of the club or wake up next to Aria.

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Dark endings are the new "ride off into the sunset happy ending" cliche.

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Taboo-XX wrote...

After a while it's just a half-naked person to you. There is nothing sexual about it. That's how I've always seen Miranda. She isn't half naked but you understand what I mean.....

Probably in the minority in this regard though. Most people can't seem to get past the way she dresses and looks.


Miranda never really did much for me... I don't know why... oh wait, Yeah I do.  B)   For those that do all the more power to you.   I like Tali and Liara better, hell even Aria is a bad-ass character that I can like but Shepards heart belongs to another.  

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Kunari801 wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

After a while it's just a half-naked person to you. There is nothing sexual about it. That's how I've always seen Miranda. She isn't half naked but you understand what I mean.....

Probably in the minority in this regard though. Most people can't seem to get past the way she dresses and looks.


Miranda never really did much for me... I don't know why... oh wait, Yeah I do.  B)   For those that do all the more power to you. 



Yeah, well I know you want to see Kaiden as much as the others want to see their respective LI.

Sadness, just more sadness. :(

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CHALET wrote...

Dark endings are the new "ride off into the sunset happy ending" cliche.


Think I'll take the previous cliche over the new one, thank you

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Taboo-XX wrote...

StrelokCH wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Uh, no being on the set for lingerie commercial really changes your perspective on things. Not as cool as it sounds. It's fun at first until you realize you are literally sitting aroung filming half naked women all day. And the things that come out of their mouths........

It is pretty cool though....

That's why I'm scratching half-dead people off the streets, it gives you a completely new perspective on life.


After a while it's just a half-naked person to you. There is nothing sexual about it. That's how I've always seen Miranda. She isn't half naked but you understand what I mean.....

Probably in the minority in this regard though. Most people can't seem to get past the way she dresses and looks.

 

I have no problem with  the character - honestly I think sometimes people get caught too much in the appearance of the character and forget about substance.  Through I think  Bioware overall development of the character was complete ****e but thats a different story.  

I can name a few female characters  one in peticular that threw  me for a loop at first I was  like "Oh she just you A typical tart.."   then 

"Did she just tell a miltary commander to stand down and he listened?" 
"Wait she started a reformist movement,she weilds that much politcal muscle?" 
"She has her own  god damn battleship and  mech factory.." 
"She became  Prime Councilwoman of her faction..." 

By the end of it all...  She turned out to my favoriate out whole cast. 

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Miranda never really did much for me... I don't know why... oh wait, Yeah I do.  B)   For those that do all the more power to you.   I like Tali and Liara better, hell even Aria is a bad-ass character that I can like but Shepards heart belongs to another.  


Aria can beat my sorry ass any time, hell, I would pay her for it. But Liara? I'm the nerd, Nerd Shep and Nerd Liara? No thanks.

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Here's the deal Bioware. You tell me right now Shepard can Miranda again I'll get up and leave and I won't come back.

Alas.........

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Taboo-XX wrote...

Kunari801 wrote...
Miranda never really did much for me... I don't know why... oh wait, Yeah I do.  B)   For those that do all the more power to you.  


Yeah, well I know you want to see Kaiden as much as the others want to see their respective LI.

Sadness, just more sadness. :(


It was more like I couldn't connect to her personality more than a LI thing.  Ashley was a anti-alien whiner.  

Though I loved Miranda as squad member though, she was always on my team in ME2 even with my Adept Shepard.  

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StrelokCH wrote...

Kunari801 wrote...

Miranda never really did much for me... I don't know why... oh wait, Yeah I do.  B)   For those that do all the more power to you.   I like Tali and Liara better, hell even Aria is a bad-ass character that I can like but Shepards heart belongs to another.  


Aria can beat my sorry ass any time, hell, I would pay her for it. But Liara? I'm the nerd, Nerd Shep and Nerd Liara? No thanks.

  

*brofist*  

Don't you know it..  why was Liara  the only Asari LI  I have no idea, want Aria so much more...

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**** it. Let Shepard see his LI again and I'll forgive everything.

There is no need for more sadness in the world.

New topic idea sprouting.........

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Taboo-XX wrote...

**** it. Let Shepard see his LI again and I'll forgive everything.

There is no need for more sadness in the world.

New topic idea sprouting.........


Good topic I think you'd find much support.   


nitefyre410 wrote...

StrelokCH wrote...

Kunari801 wrote...

Miranda never really did much for me... I don't know why... oh wait, Yeah I do.  [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/cool.png[/smilie]   For those that do all the more power to you.   I like Tali and Liara better, hell even Aria is a bad-ass character that I can like but Shepards heart belongs to another.  


Aria can beat my sorry ass any time, hell, I would pay her for it. But Liara? I'm the nerd, Nerd Shep and Nerd Liara? No thanks.

  

*brofist*  

Don't you know it..  why was Liara  the only Asari LI  I have no idea, want Aria so much more...

 

Yeah, even my Shepard would let Aria whip-me-beat-me anytime!  :D   I loved how she'd watch out for me if I drank too much and passed out.  

Liara and Tali were friends not LI's. 

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nitefyre410 wrote...

*brofist*  

Don't you know it..  why was Liara  the only Asari LI  I have no idea, want Aria so much more...


*brofist*

Aria is one hell of a woman... asari. I'm not into asari, but Aria is fine with me. I think I'll sacrifice a goat ot something for an Aria LI DLC. Well, I have no goat, but I have a sandwich, that'll work too I guess.

Retake Omega & take Aria, now that's what I'm talking about.

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Kunari801 wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

**** it. Let Shepard see his LI again and I'll forgive everything.

There is no need for more sadness in the world.

New topic idea sprouting.........


Good topic I think you'd find much support.   


Yeah, I think it's time I put some intellectual and emotional things into a topic. My posts are so......dry.

And I have the perfect quote to begin with...........

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StrelokCH wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...

*brofist*  

Don't you know it..  why was Liara  the only Asari LI  I have no idea, want Aria so much more...


*brofist*

Aria is one hell of a woman... asari. I'm not into asari, but Aria is fine with me. I think I'll sacrifice a goat ot something for an Aria LI DLC. Well, I have no goat, but I have a sandwich, that'll work too I guess.

Retake Omega & take Aria, now that's what I'm talking about.

 

Oh I would take back Omega, have Aria control the Terminus and keep all the warlords in check... but then that plan took a mass effect ending to the knee... :mellow:

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On a purely theoretical level, I had no problem with a "downer" ending to ME3. **** hit the fan, war is hell, you had to take a blind gambit to survive, and the end result of everyone not listening to Shepard's warnings is that your options are horribly limited. There's no chance for conventional victory, and so you're stuck with deciding which of your options is less atrocious.

Sucks... but hey, life sucks sometimes. Sometimes, no matter what you do, it means jack **** in the end. I get THAT. I can accept THAT. Would I like a golden ending? Sure. Most people would. But I can accept that sometimes, such an ending just isn't possible.

But holy hell, if you're gonna torque your fans like that, you better make sure all your ducks are in a row. That means, you can't have your primary exposition tool (that you just introduced for the first time ten minutes to the end) have logic that suggests he's mentally damaged and suffering from a concussion at the same time.

You've got to let the player rail against this obvious railroading... even if only to have it refuted or dismissed arrogantly. You don't want to choose, Shepard? Fine. Watch as your fleets are ripped apart and all your efforts are TRULY for nothing.

An ending like the one Bioware tried to pull off was pretty much the WORST time they could afford two of the writers going alone and doing their own thing without any input from anyone else.