250 réponses à ce sujet

[Obeded the 2nd]

miracleofsound wrote...

How do we know non-synthetic organics won't try to wipe out synthetic organics?

We don't, however it is logical to assume that since they are more or less the same they won't band together because they were organic first or whatever, essentially no one side is powerful enough to destroy the other and they will more than likly stop before they wipe each other out.

[DubVee12]

The fact is, Synthesis wasn't really explained other than a new DNA. That's really the problem here as everyone arguing about synthesis is basically making their own speculations. I think it pointless to argue about something we really don't understand because Bioware didn't explain it. Let's just hope the try in the EC dlc

Also I seriously doubt the Geth are going to start growing kidneys and livers. That's just silly.

Modifié par DubVee12, 30 avril 2012 - 08:40 .

[The Protheans]

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

The Protheans wrote...

 

Synthesis: This i the best ending. Now I know you are going to say" wait a second obeded, all things in the galaxy will turn into cyborgs so how can this be the best ending? also it makes no sense, so WTF?" I agree with the second part it needs more clarifing however the first part is just stupid to believe. Synthesis just makes organic and synthetics feel like the same. Thats not really the best way to word it however they will look out for each other and trust each other rather than ultimatly leading to the destruction of one another. Sorry if you still don't understand synthesis but this is not the point the point is that in destroy ALL organics will die off after a certain amount of time, in control at the very least it will save the younger species and just kill advanced ones or at most let civilization continue with the reapers having the major burden of trying to stop synthetics from getting out of control, in synthesis however galatic civilization will rebuild and synthetics will not kill all organics or pose a threat that could get out of hand.

You made it sound so simple and stupid I don't think you fully understand the implications of Synthesis.

Synthesis just makes organic and synthetics feel like the same. Thats not really the best way to word it however they will look out for each other and trust each other rather than ultimatly leading to the destruction of one another. Sorry if you still don't understand synthesis.

I don't think you understand it, you think you understand it but you don't.
In fact sole Synthetics  don't even exist as they have Organic material that forms them too.
Everyone is in the same boat and the galaxy is doomed to stalemate with nothing happening and no diversity.
It would be the same as making everyone in Dragon Age a tranquil.

Incorrect, you mixed synthetics and organics not every species in the galaxy

What?
You mixed all life in the galaxy with synthetics, it shows you this in the end.
ALL THE PLANTS ARE PARTLY SYNTHETIC
See I knew you didn't understand it fully

Modifié par The Protheans, 30 avril 2012 - 08:41 .

[Sisterofshane]

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

miracleofsound wrote...

How do we know non-synthetic organics won't try to wipe out synthetic organics?

We don't, however it is logical to assume that since they are more or less the same they won't band together because they were organic first or whatever, essentially no one side is powerful enough to destroy the other and they will more than likly stop before they wipe each other out.

Being organic certainly didn't stop the Krogan from wiping out the Rachni.  It didn't stop the Batarians and Humans from having conflict.  So now, instead of the Geth wiping out the Quarians, what we will have is Hybrid-Krogans wiping out Hybrid Salarians.  All Synthesis does is bring a false sense of peace.

[bpzrn]

[Obeded the 2nd]

DubVee12 wrote...

The fact is, Synthesis wasn't really explained other than a new DNA. That's really the problem here as everyone arguing about synthesis is basically making their own speculations. I think it pointless to argue about something we really don't understand because Bioware didn't explain it. Let's just hope the try in the EC dlc

Also I seriously doubt the Geth are going to start growing kidneys and livers. That's just silly.

Bioware write the ending badly, true because no-one understands synthesis.

But the geth growing livers etc. may seem stupid but it must happen with synthesis.

[Obeded the 2nd]

The Protheans wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

The Protheans wrote...

 

Synthesis: This i the best ending. Now I know you are going to say" wait a second obeded, all things in the galaxy will turn into cyborgs so how can this be the best ending? also it makes no sense, so WTF?" I agree with the second part it needs more clarifing however the first part is just stupid to believe. Synthesis just makes organic and synthetics feel like the same. Thats not really the best way to word it however they will look out for each other and trust each other rather than ultimatly leading to the destruction of one another. Sorry if you still don't understand synthesis but this is not the point the point is that in destroy ALL organics will die off after a certain amount of time, in control at the very least it will save the younger species and just kill advanced ones or at most let civilization continue with the reapers having the major burden of trying to stop synthetics from getting out of control, in synthesis however galatic civilization will rebuild and synthetics will not kill all organics or pose a threat that could get out of hand.

You made it sound so simple and stupid I don't think you fully understand the implications of Synthesis.

Synthesis just makes organic and synthetics feel like the same. Thats not really the best way to word it however they will look out for each other and trust each other rather than ultimatly leading to the destruction of one another. Sorry if you still don't understand synthesis.

I don't think you understand it, you think you understand it but you don't.
In fact sole Synthetics  don't even exist as they have Organic material that forms them too.
Everyone is in the same boat and the galaxy is doomed to stalemate with nothing happening and no diversity.
It would be the same as making everyone in Dragon Age a tranquil.

Incorrect, you mixed synthetics and organics not every species in the galaxy

What?
You mixed all life in the galaxy with synthetics, it shows you this in the end.
ALL THE PLANTS ARE PARTLY SYNTHETIC
See I knew you didn't understand it fully

Yes you mixed the living with synthetic not all life.
I think you don't understand the ending.
On another note I may be wrong since bioware did a poor job of explaining it however I don't think your correct.

[Firecell11]

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

miracleofsound wrote...

How do we know non-synthetic organics won't try to wipe out synthetic organics?

We don't, however it is logical to assume that since they are more or less the same they won't band together because they were organic first or whatever, essentially no one side is powerful enough to destroy the other and they will more than likly stop before they wipe each other out.

well basically every organic species is now parthly synthetic so they are not the same and there can/will be conflict between them so synthesis solves nothing

[Obeded the 2nd]

Sisterofshane wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

miracleofsound wrote...

How do we know non-synthetic organics won't try to wipe out synthetic organics?

We don't, however it is logical to assume that since they are more or less the same they won't band together because they were organic first or whatever, essentially no one side is powerful enough to destroy the other and they will more than likly stop before they wipe each other out.

Being organic certainly didn't stop the Krogan from wiping out the Rachni.  It didn't stop the Batarians and Humans from having conflict.  So now, instead of the Geth wiping out the Quarians, what we will have is Hybrid-Krogans wiping out Hybrid Salarians.  All Synthesis does is bring a false sense of peace.

Yes there will always be war however the created will always rebel and ultimatly win is not true anymore.

[Isichar]

Iv been on the story and campaign thread for a few months, spent more hours reading threads then I did actually playing ME3, seen hundreds of different threads...


And i can still say that I dont even remotely understand why someone would pick synthesis. I can admit it, I dont get it at all even after reading 2-3 posts with walls of text on it.

Which is quite funny because its obvious it is the ending the writers bent over backwards to make look the best.

Modifié par Isichar, 30 avril 2012 - 08:48 .

[Obeded the 2nd]

Firecell11 wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

miracleofsound wrote...

How do we know non-synthetic organics won't try to wipe out synthetic organics?

We don't, however it is logical to assume that since they are more or less the same they won't band together because they were organic first or whatever, essentially no one side is powerful enough to destroy the other and they will more than likly stop before they wipe each other out.

well basically every organic species is now parthly synthetic so they are not the same and there can/will be conflict between them so synthesis solves nothing

Synthesis solves the problem of why the reapers are here to stop this created stuff which it does.

[General Skidog]

Destroy was the best and only viable option for me.

Destroying the Reapers has been the goal since ME1, after over 150 hours of gameplay im not suddenly going to change my mind because some random creepy kid whos just been introduced tells me that it isn't a good idea.

[Isichar]

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

Firecell11 wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

miracleofsound wrote...

How do we know non-synthetic organics won't try to wipe out synthetic organics?

We don't, however it is logical to assume that since they are more or less the same they won't band together because they were organic first or whatever, essentially no one side is powerful enough to destroy the other and they will more than likly stop before they wipe each other out.

well basically every organic species is now parthly synthetic so they are not the same and there can/will be conflict between them so synthesis solves nothing

Synthesis solves the problem of why the reapers are here to stop this created stuff which it does.

Yeah sounds great in theory. Synthesis solves all organic problems, but how?

Organics have war with organics
Organics have war with synthetics
Synthetics have war with synthetics

So your either taking away peoples free will and diversity completely or you turn them into half robot half organic which in no way shape or form other then the catalysts word leads me to believe this will avoid conflict

Modifié par Isichar, 30 avril 2012 - 08:50 .

[Obeded the 2nd]

Isichar wrote...

Iv been on the story and campaign thread for a few months, spent more hours reading threads then I did actually playing ME3, seen hundreds of different threads...


And i can still say that I dont even remotely understand why someone would pick synthesis. I can admit it, I dont get it at all even after reading 2-3 posts with walls of text on it.

Which is quite funny because its obvious it is the ending the writers bent over backwards to make look the best.

Maybe it's because it is poorly explained, but i can see why people would and should pick synthesis.

[The Protheans]

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

The Protheans wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

The Protheans wrote...

 

Synthesis: This i the best ending. Now I know you are going to say" wait a second obeded, all things in the galaxy will turn into cyborgs so how can this be the best ending? also it makes no sense, so WTF?" I agree with the second part it needs more clarifing however the first part is just stupid to believe. Synthesis just makes organic and synthetics feel like the same. Thats not really the best way to word it however they will look out for each other and trust each other rather than ultimatly leading to the destruction of one another. Sorry if you still don't understand synthesis but this is not the point the point is that in destroy ALL organics will die off after a certain amount of time, in control at the very least it will save the younger species and just kill advanced ones or at most let civilization continue with the reapers having the major burden of trying to stop synthetics from getting out of control, in synthesis however galatic civilization will rebuild and synthetics will not kill all organics or pose a threat that could get out of hand.

You made it sound so simple and stupid I don't think you fully understand the implications of Synthesis.

Synthesis just makes organic and synthetics feel like the same. Thats not really the best way to word it however they will look out for each other and trust each other rather than ultimatly leading to the destruction of one another. Sorry if you still don't understand synthesis.

I don't think you understand it, you think you understand it but you don't.
In fact sole Synthetics  don't even exist as they have Organic material that forms them too.
Everyone is in the same boat and the galaxy is doomed to stalemate with nothing happening and no diversity.
It would be the same as making everyone in Dragon Age a tranquil.

Incorrect, you mixed synthetics and organics not every species in the galaxy

What?
You mixed all life in the galaxy with synthetics, it shows you this in the end.
ALL THE PLANTS ARE PARTLY SYNTHETIC
See I knew you didn't understand it fully

Yes you mixed the living with synthetic not all life.
I think you don't understand the ending.
On another note I may be wrong since bioware did a poor job of explaining it however I don't think your correct.

Ok your only defense is "sure in 1 billion years or more we will get a Organics species capable of space flight".
I understood it that way too unless Bioware thinks the space magic affect everything from now.

[Obeded the 2nd]

Isichar wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

Firecell11 wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

miracleofsound wrote...

How do we know non-synthetic organics won't try to wipe out synthetic organics?

We don't, however it is logical to assume that since they are more or less the same they won't band together because they were organic first or whatever, essentially no one side is powerful enough to destroy the other and they will more than likly stop before they wipe each other out.

well basically every organic species is now parthly synthetic so they are not the same and there can/will be conflict between them so synthesis solves nothing

Synthesis solves the problem of why the reapers are here to stop this created stuff which it does.

Yeah sounds great in theory. Synthesis solves all organic problems, but how?

No synthesis does not stop war, war will always continue as long as species who can make war exist it just solves the sythetic v organic problem of the organics evuantually dying ad synthetics becoming to powerful.

[SirBob1613]

Destroy is best don't by into that the synthetics will kill all organics bull it won't happen. Look at the Geth they would have been prefectly fine of the Quirans didnt start shutting them down causeing them to rebel.
And they even let the Quirans leave without chaseing them. You can't assume what will happen 50000 years later without being there for all we know we will see synthetics and organics building massive space stations bigger then the citidel side by side, but i highly doubt synthetics will ever kill all organics unless we have a idiot start child who makes reapers again.

All of the starchilds logic is wrong.

Modifié par SirBob1613, 30 avril 2012 - 08:55 .

[DubVee12]

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

DubVee12 wrote...

The fact is, Synthesis wasn't really explained other than a new DNA. That's really the problem here as everyone arguing about synthesis is basically making their own speculations. I think it pointless to argue about something we really don't understand because Bioware didn't explain it. Let's just hope the try in the EC dlc

Also I seriously doubt the Geth are going to start growing kidneys and livers. That's just silly.

Bioware write the ending badly, true because no-one understands synthesis.

But the geth growing livers etc. may seem stupid but it must happen with synthesis.

Yes, it was poorly explained, but no the Geth don't have to grow livers now. First, the don't have DNA because they are AI's so synthesis has to effect their programming code (or something like that). Likely, it would make them more organic like in the sense that they feel empathy and sorrow. Therefore, they would realize the killing all organic races is you know, bad.

[Obeded the 2nd]

The Protheans wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

The Protheans wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

The Protheans wrote...

 

Synthesis: This i the best ending. Now I know you are going to say" wait a second obeded, all things in the galaxy will turn into cyborgs so how can this be the best ending? also it makes no sense, so WTF?" I agree with the second part it needs more clarifing however the first part is just stupid to believe. Synthesis just makes organic and synthetics feel like the same. Thats not really the best way to word it however they will look out for each other and trust each other rather than ultimatly leading to the destruction of one another. Sorry if you still don't understand synthesis but this is not the point the point is that in destroy ALL organics will die off after a certain amount of time, in control at the very least it will save the younger species and just kill advanced ones or at most let civilization continue with the reapers having the major burden of trying to stop synthetics from getting out of control, in synthesis however galatic civilization will rebuild and synthetics will not kill all organics or pose a threat that could get out of hand.

You made it sound so simple and stupid I don't think you fully understand the implications of Synthesis.

Synthesis just makes organic and synthetics feel like the same. Thats not really the best way to word it however they will look out for each other and trust each other rather than ultimatly leading to the destruction of one another. Sorry if you still don't understand synthesis.

I don't think you understand it, you think you understand it but you don't.
In fact sole Synthetics  don't even exist as they have Organic material that forms them too.
Everyone is in the same boat and the galaxy is doomed to stalemate with nothing happening and no diversity.
It would be the same as making everyone in Dragon Age a tranquil.

Incorrect, you mixed synthetics and organics not every species in the galaxy

What?
You mixed all life in the galaxy with synthetics, it shows you this in the end.
ALL THE PLANTS ARE PARTLY SYNTHETIC
See I knew you didn't understand it fully

Yes you mixed the living with synthetic not all life.
I think you don't understand the ending.
On another note I may be wrong since bioware did a poor job of explaining it however I don't think your correct.

Ok your only defense is "sure in 1 billion years or more we will get a Organics species capable of space flight".
I understood it that way too unless Bioware thinks the space magic affect everything from now.

Don't understand what you trying to say.

[Firecell11]

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

The Protheans wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

The Protheans wrote...

 

Synthesis: This i the best ending. Now I know you are going to say" wait a second obeded, all things in the galaxy will turn into cyborgs so how can this be the best ending? also it makes no sense, so WTF?" I agree with the second part it needs more clarifing however the first part is just stupid to believe. Synthesis just makes organic and synthetics feel like the same. Thats not really the best way to word it however they will look out for each other and trust each other rather than ultimatly leading to the destruction of one another. Sorry if you still don't understand synthesis but this is not the point the point is that in destroy ALL organics will die off after a certain amount of time, in control at the very least it will save the younger species and just kill advanced ones or at most let civilization continue with the reapers having the major burden of trying to stop synthetics from getting out of control, in synthesis however galatic civilization will rebuild and synthetics will not kill all organics or pose a threat that could get out of hand.

You made it sound so simple and stupid I don't think you fully understand the implications of Synthesis.

Synthesis just makes organic and synthetics feel like the same. Thats not really the best way to word it however they will look out for each other and trust each other rather than ultimatly leading to the destruction of one another. Sorry if you still don't understand synthesis.

I don't think you understand it, you think you understand it but you don't.
In fact sole Synthetics  don't even exist as they have Organic material that forms them too.
Everyone is in the same boat and the galaxy is doomed to stalemate with nothing happening and no diversity.
It would be the same as making everyone in Dragon Age a tranquil.

Incorrect, you mixed synthetics and organics not every species in the galaxy

What?
You mixed all life in the galaxy with synthetics, it shows you this in the end.
ALL THE PLANTS ARE PARTLY SYNTHETIC
See I knew you didn't understand it fully

Yes you mixed the living with synthetic not all life.
I think you don't understand the ending.
On another note I may be wrong since bioware did a poor job of explaining it however I don't think your correct.

you mixed every organic life and flora with synthetics thats what the ending shows us

[Obeded the 2nd]

DubVee12 wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

DubVee12 wrote...

The fact is, Synthesis wasn't really explained other than a new DNA. That's really the problem here as everyone arguing about synthesis is basically making their own speculations. I think it pointless to argue about something we really don't understand because Bioware didn't explain it. Let's just hope the try in the EC dlc

Also I seriously doubt the Geth are going to start growing kidneys and livers. That's just silly.

Bioware write the ending badly, true because no-one understands synthesis.

But the geth growing livers etc. may seem stupid but it must happen with synthesis.

Yes, it was poorly explained, but no the Geth don't have to grow livers now. First, the don't have DNA because they are AI's so synthesis has to effect their programming code (or something like that). Likely, it would make them more organic like in the sense that they feel empathy and sorrow. Therefore, they would realize the killing all organic races is you know, bad.

Yes you are right it just changes DNA, liver idea was not thought out guess i didn't think about the DNA part I was to busy trying to make synthesis seem good.
Also not DNA but more likly code like you said.

Modifié par Obeded the 2nd, 30 avril 2012 - 08:53 .

[DubVee12]

SirBob1613 wrote...

Destroy is best don't by into that the synthetics will kill all organics bull it won't happen. Look at the Geth they would have been prefectly fine of the Quirans didnt start shutting them down causeing them to rebel.
And they even let the Quirans leave without chaseing them.

How long before the quarian government rebuilding on their homeworld decides that maybe re-enslaving the geth is a good idea? Politics are dirty and I can almost perfectly imagine future quarian politicians being arrogant enough to believe they can actually do this (Admiral Xen anyone?). While it won't work, it will lead the geth to believe they can't peacefully coexist with organics, therefore proving the catalyst right.

[Obeded the 2nd]

Firecell11 wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

The Protheans wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

The Protheans wrote...

 

Synthesis: This i the best ending. Now I know you are going to say" wait a second obeded, all things in the galaxy will turn into cyborgs so how can this be the best ending? also it makes no sense, so WTF?" I agree with the second part it needs more clarifing however the first part is just stupid to believe. Synthesis just makes organic and synthetics feel like the same. Thats not really the best way to word it however they will look out for each other and trust each other rather than ultimatly leading to the destruction of one another. Sorry if you still don't understand synthesis but this is not the point the point is that in destroy ALL organics will die off after a certain amount of time, in control at the very least it will save the younger species and just kill advanced ones or at most let civilization continue with the reapers having the major burden of trying to stop synthetics from getting out of control, in synthesis however galatic civilization will rebuild and synthetics will not kill all organics or pose a threat that could get out of hand.

You made it sound so simple and stupid I don't think you fully understand the implications of Synthesis.

Synthesis just makes organic and synthetics feel like the same. Thats not really the best way to word it however they will look out for each other and trust each other rather than ultimatly leading to the destruction of one another. Sorry if you still don't understand synthesis.

I don't think you understand it, you think you understand it but you don't.
In fact sole Synthetics  don't even exist as they have Organic material that forms them too.
Everyone is in the same boat and the galaxy is doomed to stalemate with nothing happening and no diversity.
It would be the same as making everyone in Dragon Age a tranquil.

Incorrect, you mixed synthetics and organics not every species in the galaxy

What?
You mixed all life in the galaxy with synthetics, it shows you this in the end.
ALL THE PLANTS ARE PARTLY SYNTHETIC
See I knew you didn't understand it fully

Yes you mixed the living with synthetic not all life.
I think you don't understand the ending.
On another note I may be wrong since bioware did a poor job of explaining it however I don't think your correct.

you mixed every organic life and flora with synthetics thats what the ending shows us

No you basically took organic DNA mixed it with synthetic DNA thing and i guess th plants were involved in oranic DNA since they are living.

[Obeded the 2nd]

DubVee12 wrote...

SirBob1613 wrote...

Destroy is best don't by into that the synthetics will kill all organics bull it won't happen. Look at the Geth they would have been prefectly fine of the Quirans didnt start shutting them down causeing them to rebel.
And they even let the Quirans leave without chaseing them.

How long before the quarian government rebuilding on their homeworld decides that maybe re-enslaving the geth is a good idea? Politics are dirty and I can almost perfectly imagine future quarian politicians being arrogant enough to believe they can actually do this (Admiral Xen anyone?). While it won't work, it will lead the geth to believe they can't peacefully coexist with organics, therefore proving the catalyst right.

Agreed

[DubVee12]

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

DubVee12 wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

DubVee12 wrote...

The fact is, Synthesis wasn't really explained other than a new DNA. That's really the problem here as everyone arguing about synthesis is basically making their own speculations. I think it pointless to argue about something we really don't understand because Bioware didn't explain it. Let's just hope the try in the EC dlc

Also I seriously doubt the Geth are going to start growing kidneys and livers. That's just silly.

Bioware write the ending badly, true because no-one understands synthesis.

But the geth growing livers etc. may seem stupid but it must happen with synthesis.

Yes, it was poorly explained, but no the Geth don't have to grow livers now. First, the don't have DNA because they are AI's so synthesis has to effect their programming code (or something like that). Likely, it would make them more organic like in the sense that they feel empathy and sorrow. Therefore, they would realize the killing all organic races is you know, bad.

Yes you are right it just changes DNA, liver idea was not thought out guess i didn't think about the DNA part I was to busy trying to make synthesis seem good.
Also not DNA but more likly code like you said.

I know, it was really directed at you, I think someone above me mentioned it. I don't mind people disliking the endings because they are poorly explained but there's no need to invent silly reasons like Geth being part organic.