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[Obeded the 2nd]

SirBob1613 wrote...

Destroy is best don't by into that the synthetics will kill all organics bull it won't happen. Look at the Geth they would have been prefectly fine of the Quirans didnt start shutting them down causeing them to rebel.
And they even let the Quirans leave without chaseing them. You can't assume what will happen 50000 years later without being there for all we know we will see synthetics and organics building massive space stations bigger then the citidel side by side, but i highly doubt synthetics will ever kill all organics unless we have a idiot start child who makes reapers again.

All of the starchilds logic is wrong.

Maybe true

However let me present EVIDENCE. You speak to a prothean VI on the asari homeworld correct, he says they are patterns in the galaxy that repeat eg: the reaper cycle and a group trying to control the reapers. In other words it is logical to assume that this creaed vs created will also be a pattern that emerges time after time.

[SirBob1613]

DubVee12 wrote...

SirBob1613 wrote...

Destroy is best don't by into that the synthetics will kill all organics bull it won't happen. Look at the Geth they would have been prefectly fine of the Quirans didnt start shutting them down causeing them to rebel.
And they even let the Quirans leave without chaseing them.

How long before the quarian government rebuilding on their homeworld decides that maybe re-enslaving the geth is a good idea? Politics are dirty and I can almost perfectly imagine future quarian politicians being arrogant enough to believe they can actually do this (Admiral Xen anyone?). While it won't work, it will lead the geth to believe they can't peacefully coexist with organics, therefore proving the catalyst right.

How do you know that will happen there is Quirans letting Geth fix their immune systems and doing what the Quirans would take years they do in weeks they will be at peace. They will both figure it out that they need eachother and they will a large amount already have. They can't bear to fight over stupid things anymore.

Modifié par SirBob1613, 30 avril 2012 - 09:00 .

[Obeded the 2nd]

DubVee12 wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

DubVee12 wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

DubVee12 wrote...

The fact is, Synthesis wasn't really explained other than a new DNA. That's really the problem here as everyone arguing about synthesis is basically making their own speculations. I think it pointless to argue about something we really don't understand because Bioware didn't explain it. Let's just hope the try in the EC dlc

Also I seriously doubt the Geth are going to start growing kidneys and livers. That's just silly.

Bioware write the ending badly, true because no-one understands synthesis.

But the geth growing livers etc. may seem stupid but it must happen with synthesis.

Yes, it was poorly explained, but no the Geth don't have to grow livers now. First, the don't have DNA because they are AI's so synthesis has to effect their programming code (or something like that). Likely, it would make them more organic like in the sense that they feel empathy and sorrow. Therefore, they would realize the killing all organic races is you know, bad.

Yes you are right it just changes DNA, liver idea was not thought out guess i didn't think about the DNA part I was to busy trying to make synthesis seem good.
Also not DNA but more likly code like you said.

I know, it was really directed at you, I think someone above me mentioned it. I don't mind people disliking the endings because they are poorly explained but there's no need to invent silly reasons like Geth being part organic.

I know as well I am confirming that my first explation was wrong and you are correct.
I would take that as a compliment but whatever we are all diffrent

[Obeded the 2nd]

SirBob1613 wrote...

DubVee12 wrote...

SirBob1613 wrote...

Destroy is best don't by into that the synthetics will kill all organics bull it won't happen. Look at the Geth they would have been prefectly fine of the Quirans didnt start shutting them down causeing them to rebel.
And they even let the Quirans leave without chaseing them.

How long before the quarian government rebuilding on their homeworld decides that maybe re-enslaving the geth is a good idea? Politics are dirty and I can almost perfectly imagine future quarian politicians being arrogant enough to believe they can actually do this (Admiral Xen anyone?). While it won't work, it will lead the geth to believe they can't peacefully coexist with organics, therefore proving the catalyst right.

How do you know that will happen there is Quirans letting Geth fix their immune systems and doing what the Quirans would take years they do in weeks they will be at peace. They will both figure it out that they need eachother and they will a large amount already they can't bear to fight over stupid things anymore.

Opinions can change drastically over time.

[SirBob1613]

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

SirBob1613 wrote...

Destroy is best don't by into that the synthetics will kill all organics bull it won't happen. Look at the Geth they would have been prefectly fine of the Quirans didnt start shutting them down causeing them to rebel.
And they even let the Quirans leave without chaseing them. You can't assume what will happen 50000 years later without being there for all we know we will see synthetics and organics building massive space stations bigger then the citidel side by side, but i highly doubt synthetics will ever kill all organics unless we have a idiot start child who makes reapers again.

All of the starchilds logic is wrong.

Maybe true

However let me present EVIDENCE. You speak to a prothean VI on the asari homeworld correct, he says they are patterns in the galaxy that repeat eg: the reaper cycle and a group trying to control the reapers. In other words it is logical to assume that this creaed vs created will also be a pattern that emerges time after time.

So the reaper cycle and people controling the reapers supports that the created will always attack their creations out of stupidity?

[SirBob1613]

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

SirBob1613 wrote...

DubVee12 wrote...

SirBob1613 wrote...

Destroy is best don't by into that the synthetics will kill all organics bull it won't happen. Look at the Geth they would have been prefectly fine of the Quirans didnt start shutting them down causeing them to rebel.
And they even let the Quirans leave without chaseing them.

How long before the quarian government rebuilding on their homeworld decides that maybe re-enslaving the geth is a good idea? Politics are dirty and I can almost perfectly imagine future quarian politicians being arrogant enough to believe they can actually do this (Admiral Xen anyone?). While it won't work, it will lead the geth to believe they can't peacefully coexist with organics, therefore proving the catalyst right.

How do you know that will happen there is Quirans letting Geth fix their immune systems and doing what the Quirans would take years they do in weeks they will be at peace. They will both figure it out that they need eachother and they will a large amount already they can't bear to fight over stupid things anymore.

Opinions can change drastically over time.

Yup they will all start to figure out another war is a good idea even though these robots have helped us immensly and had no intentions of harming them

Modifié par SirBob1613, 30 avril 2012 - 09:03 .

[Sisterofshane]

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

Sisterofshane wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

miracleofsound wrote...

How do we know non-synthetic organics won't try to wipe out synthetic organics?

We don't, however it is logical to assume that since they are more or less the same they won't band together because they were organic first or whatever, essentially no one side is powerful enough to destroy the other and they will more than likly stop before they wipe each other out.

Being organic certainly didn't stop the Krogan from wiping out the Rachni.  It didn't stop the Batarians and Humans from having conflict.  So now, instead of the Geth wiping out the Quarians, what we will have is Hybrid-Krogans wiping out Hybrid Salarians.  All Synthesis does is bring a false sense of peace.

Yes there will always be war however the created will always rebel and ultimatly win is not true anymore.

Synthesis really can't change anything, however, without brainwashing every living being in the galaxy.

What are the reasons why Oragnics and Synthetics might have intially gone to war (without any Reaper/Catalyst interference)?

  -Synthetics know the purpose for which they were created, while organics will always question WHY they exist
  -Synthetics see organics as "Chaotic" - an unknown variable that needs to be controlled.
  -Organics do not believe that Synthetics are "alive" - they are nothing but tools to be subjugated.

The idea that changing the composition or "bulding blocks" of every being in the galaxy does nothing to stop the inherent nature of the conflicts that are mentioned above.  These are differences in perception and ideaology.  These differences will still exist.  So the Reapers may still decide to wipe out all other "species".  The argument was never about being made of metal and programming versus flesh and chemicals.

[Obeded the 2nd]

SirBob1613 wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

SirBob1613 wrote...

DubVee12 wrote...

SirBob1613 wrote...

Destroy is best don't by into that the synthetics will kill all organics bull it won't happen. Look at the Geth they would have been prefectly fine of the Quirans didnt start shutting them down causeing them to rebel.
And they even let the Quirans leave without chaseing them.

How long before the quarian government rebuilding on their homeworld decides that maybe re-enslaving the geth is a good idea? Politics are dirty and I can almost perfectly imagine future quarian politicians being arrogant enough to believe they can actually do this (Admiral Xen anyone?). While it won't work, it will lead the geth to believe they can't peacefully coexist with organics, therefore proving the catalyst right.

How do you know that will happen there is Quirans letting Geth fix their immune systems and doing what the Quirans would take years they do in weeks they will be at peace. They will both figure it out that they need eachother and they will a large amount already they can't bear to fight over stupid things anymore.

Opinions can change drastically over time.

Yup they will all start to figure out another war is a good idea even though these robots have helped us immensly and had no intentions of harming them

You don't know what the future might hold though.

[Firecell11]

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

Firecell11 wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

The Protheans wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

The Protheans wrote...

 

Synthesis: This i the best ending. Now I know you are going to say" wait a second obeded, all things in the galaxy will turn into cyborgs so how can this be the best ending? also it makes no sense, so WTF?" I agree with the second part it needs more clarifing however the first part is just stupid to believe. Synthesis just makes organic and synthetics feel like the same. Thats not really the best way to word it however they will look out for each other and trust each other rather than ultimatly leading to the destruction of one another. Sorry if you still don't understand synthesis but this is not the point the point is that in destroy ALL organics will die off after a certain amount of time, in control at the very least it will save the younger species and just kill advanced ones or at most let civilization continue with the reapers having the major burden of trying to stop synthetics from getting out of control, in synthesis however galatic civilization will rebuild and synthetics will not kill all organics or pose a threat that could get out of hand.

You made it sound so simple and stupid I don't think you fully understand the implications of Synthesis.

Synthesis just makes organic and synthetics feel like the same. Thats not really the best way to word it however they will look out for each other and trust each other rather than ultimatly leading to the destruction of one another. Sorry if you still don't understand synthesis.

I don't think you understand it, you think you understand it but you don't.
In fact sole Synthetics  don't even exist as they have Organic material that forms them too.
Everyone is in the same boat and the galaxy is doomed to stalemate with nothing happening and no diversity.
It would be the same as making everyone in Dragon Age a tranquil.

Incorrect, you mixed synthetics and organics not every species in the galaxy

What?
You mixed all life in the galaxy with synthetics, it shows you this in the end.
ALL THE PLANTS ARE PARTLY SYNTHETIC
See I knew you didn't understand it fully

Yes you mixed the living with synthetic not all life.
I think you don't understand the ending.
On another note I may be wrong since bioware did a poor job of explaining it however I don't think your correct.

you mixed every organic life and flora with synthetics thats what the ending shows us

No you basically took organic DNA mixed it with synthetic DNA thing and i guess th plants were involved in oranic DNA since they are living.

thats exactly what I said? and by the way the catalyst says to shepard: "the chainreaction will combine all synthetic and organic life in to a new DNA"
the green shine on an organic living thing is what you get with synthesis

[SirBob1613]

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

SirBob1613 wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

SirBob1613 wrote...

DubVee12 wrote...

SirBob1613 wrote...

Destroy is best don't by into that the synthetics will kill all organics bull it won't happen. Look at the Geth they would have been prefectly fine of the Quirans didnt start shutting them down causeing them to rebel.
And they even let the Quirans leave without chaseing them.

How long before the quarian government rebuilding on their homeworld decides that maybe re-enslaving the geth is a good idea? Politics are dirty and I can almost perfectly imagine future quarian politicians being arrogant enough to believe they can actually do this (Admiral Xen anyone?). While it won't work, it will lead the geth to believe they can't peacefully coexist with organics, therefore proving the catalyst right.

How do you know that will happen there is Quirans letting Geth fix their immune systems and doing what the Quirans would take years they do in weeks they will be at peace. They will both figure it out that they need eachother and they will a large amount already they can't bear to fight over stupid things anymore.

Opinions can change drastically over time.

Yup they will all start to figure out another war is a good idea even though these robots have helped us immensly and had no intentions of harming them

You don't know what the future might hold though.

Wait you believe the Quirans are going to attack the Geth?

[Obeded the 2nd]

Sisterofshane wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

Sisterofshane wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

miracleofsound wrote...

How do we know non-synthetic organics won't try to wipe out synthetic organics?

We don't, however it is logical to assume that since they are more or less the same they won't band together because they were organic first or whatever, essentially no one side is powerful enough to destroy the other and they will more than likly stop before they wipe each other out.

Being organic certainly didn't stop the Krogan from wiping out the Rachni.  It didn't stop the Batarians and Humans from having conflict.  So now, instead of the Geth wiping out the Quarians, what we will have is Hybrid-Krogans wiping out Hybrid Salarians.  All Synthesis does is bring a false sense of peace.

Yes there will always be war however the created will always rebel and ultimatly win is not true anymore.

Synthesis really can't change anything, however, without brainwashing every living being in the galaxy.

What are the reasons why Oragnics and Synthetics might have intially gone to war (without any Reaper/Catalyst interference)?

  -Synthetics know the purpose for which they were created, while organics will always question WHY they exist
  -Synthetics see organics as "Chaotic" - an unknown variable that needs to be controlled.
  -Organics do not believe that Synthetics are "alive" - they are nothing but tools to be subjugated.

The idea that changing the composition or "bulding blocks" of every being in the galaxy does nothing to stop the inherent nature of the conflicts that are mentioned above.  These are differences in perception and ideaology.  These differences will still exist.  So the Reapers may still decide to wipe out all other "species".  The argument was never about being made of metal and programming versus flesh and chemicals.

Yes there will always be war however all organics won't all die by snthetics, mostly because thay are sort of the same now.

[The Protheans]

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

The Protheans wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

The Protheans wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

The Protheans wrote...

 

Synthesis: This i the best ending. Now I know you are going to say" wait a second obeded, all things in the galaxy will turn into cyborgs so how can this be the best ending? also it makes no sense, so WTF?" I agree with the second part it needs more clarifing however the first part is just stupid to believe. Synthesis just makes organic and synthetics feel like the same. Thats not really the best way to word it however they will look out for each other and trust each other rather than ultimatly leading to the destruction of one another. Sorry if you still don't understand synthesis but this is not the point the point is that in destroy ALL organics will die off after a certain amount of time, in control at the very least it will save the younger species and just kill advanced ones or at most let civilization continue with the reapers having the major burden of trying to stop synthetics from getting out of control, in synthesis however galatic civilization will rebuild and synthetics will not kill all organics or pose a threat that could get out of hand.

You made it sound so simple and stupid I don't think you fully understand the implications of Synthesis.

Synthesis just makes organic and synthetics feel like the same. Thats not really the best way to word it however they will look out for each other and trust each other rather than ultimatly leading to the destruction of one another. Sorry if you still don't understand synthesis.

I don't think you understand it, you think you understand it but you don't.
In fact sole Synthetics  don't even exist as they have Organic material that forms them too.
Everyone is in the same boat and the galaxy is doomed to stalemate with nothing happening and no diversity.
It would be the same as making everyone in Dragon Age a tranquil.

Incorrect, you mixed synthetics and organics not every species in the galaxy

What?
You mixed all life in the galaxy with synthetics, it shows you this in the end.
ALL THE PLANTS ARE PARTLY SYNTHETIC
See I knew you didn't understand it fully

Yes you mixed the living with synthetic not all life.
I think you don't understand the ending.
On another note I may be wrong since bioware did a poor job of explaining it however I don't think your correct.

Ok your only defense is "sure in 1 billion years or more we will get a Organics species capable of space flight".
I understood it that way too unless Bioware thinks the space magic affect everything from now.

Don't understand what you trying to say.

All life is living, can't you understand that? That is basic biology class.

I thought you used an intelligent remark on the endings regarding  life created after the ending being totally unrelated to all the current life in the galaxy, but  you didn't.

[Obeded the 2nd]

SirBob1613 wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

SirBob1613 wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

SirBob1613 wrote...

DubVee12 wrote...

SirBob1613 wrote...

Destroy is best don't by into that the synthetics will kill all organics bull it won't happen. Look at the Geth they would have been prefectly fine of the Quirans didnt start shutting them down causeing them to rebel.
And they even let the Quirans leave without chaseing them.

How long before the quarian government rebuilding on their homeworld decides that maybe re-enslaving the geth is a good idea? Politics are dirty and I can almost perfectly imagine future quarian politicians being arrogant enough to believe they can actually do this (Admiral Xen anyone?). While it won't work, it will lead the geth to believe they can't peacefully coexist with organics, therefore proving the catalyst right.

How do you know that will happen there is Quirans letting Geth fix their immune systems and doing what the Quirans would take years they do in weeks they will be at peace. They will both figure it out that they need eachother and they will a large amount already they can't bear to fight over stupid things anymore.

Opinions can change drastically over time.

Yup they will all start to figure out another war is a good idea even though these robots have helped us immensly and had no intentions of harming them

You don't know what the future might hold though.

Wait you believe the Quirans are going to attack the Geth?

Viable possibilty or vise versa doesn/t really matter.

[DubVee12]

SirBob1613 wrote...

DubVee12 wrote...

SirBob1613 wrote...

Destroy is best don't by into that the synthetics will kill all organics bull it won't happen. Look at the Geth they would have been prefectly fine of the Quirans didnt start shutting them down causeing them to rebel.
And they even let the Quirans leave without chaseing them.

How long before the quarian government rebuilding on their homeworld decides that maybe re-enslaving the geth is a good idea? Politics are dirty and I can almost perfectly imagine future quarian politicians being arrogant enough to believe they can actually do this (Admiral Xen anyone?). While it won't work, it will lead the geth to believe they can't peacefully coexist with organics, therefore proving the catalyst right.

How do you know that will happen there is Quirans letting Geth fix their immune systems and doing what the Quirans would take years they do in weeks they will be at peace. They will both figure it out that they need eachother and they will a large amount already have. They can't bear to fight over stupid things anymore.

I don't know that will happen but it seems a likely scenario. Sure the Geth and Quarians are buddy nows, but it's mainly because they is a war going on. While the Geth seem to actually welcome the quarians, the Quarians have been gone for 300 years. Exiled for 300 years because of, at least in their mind, the Geth. And now their just supposed to trust them? One bad slip up, one insane politician like I mentioned, and the peace could easily be broken.

[Obeded the 2nd]

The Protheans wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

The Protheans wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

The Protheans wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

The Protheans wrote...

 

Synthesis: This i the best ending. Now I know you are going to say" wait a second obeded, all things in the galaxy will turn into cyborgs so how can this be the best ending? also it makes no sense, so WTF?" I agree with the second part it needs more clarifing however the first part is just stupid to believe. Synthesis just makes organic and synthetics feel like the same. Thats not really the best way to word it however they will look out for each other and trust each other rather than ultimatly leading to the destruction of one another. Sorry if you still don't understand synthesis but this is not the point the point is that in destroy ALL organics will die off after a certain amount of time, in control at the very least it will save the younger species and just kill advanced ones or at most let civilization continue with the reapers having the major burden of trying to stop synthetics from getting out of control, in synthesis however galatic civilization will rebuild and synthetics will not kill all organics or pose a threat that could get out of hand.

You made it sound so simple and stupid I don't think you fully understand the implications of Synthesis.

Synthesis just makes organic and synthetics feel like the same. Thats not really the best way to word it however they will look out for each other and trust each other rather than ultimatly leading to the destruction of one another. Sorry if you still don't understand synthesis.

I don't think you understand it, you think you understand it but you don't.
In fact sole Synthetics  don't even exist as they have Organic material that forms them too.
Everyone is in the same boat and the galaxy is doomed to stalemate with nothing happening and no diversity.
It would be the same as making everyone in Dragon Age a tranquil.

Incorrect, you mixed synthetics and organics not every species in the galaxy

What?
You mixed all life in the galaxy with synthetics, it shows you this in the end.
ALL THE PLANTS ARE PARTLY SYNTHETIC
See I knew you didn't understand it fully

Yes you mixed the living with synthetic not all life.
I think you don't understand the ending.
On another note I may be wrong since bioware did a poor job of explaining it however I don't think your correct.

Ok your only defense is "sure in 1 billion years or more we will get a Organics species capable of space flight".
I understood it that way too unless Bioware thinks the space magic affect everything from now.

Don't understand what you trying to say.

All life is living, can't you understand that? That is basic biology class.

I thought you used an intelligent remark on the endings regarding  life created after the ending being totally unrelated to all the current life in the galaxy, but  you didn't.

No by your logic smart must be dumb, I mean all life is diffrent after this event  but still the same if you get what I mean, you more than likly don't.

[CuseGirl]

Sisterofshane wrote...

Ah, you drank the kool-aid.

Your entire premise for valuing the endings is that the Catalyst is correct in it's assumption that the organic-synthetic conflict will end with organic extinction (or even, that there is an inherent organic-synthetic conflict to begin with).

Personally, I like to think that the Catalyst created it's Reaper Solution with a false premise as it's basis.

There's nothing to believe there. He did create his Reaper solution with a false premise lolllll. It is exactly what you said it was, there's little room for debate, from a logical standpoint.

What I don't understand is, the Catalyst didn't create organics, right? So why does he have to the right to tell organics not to make synthetics anyway? Why does he have the right to quietly reside in some secret Citadel room and tell us "I need to liquefy organics and put that liquid in Reaper shells, because if I don't, those organics will make synthetics and then those synthetics will kill the organics"

[Obeded the 2nd]

Firecell11 wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

Firecell11 wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

The Protheans wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

The Protheans wrote...

 

Synthesis: This i the best ending. Now I know you are going to say" wait a second obeded, all things in the galaxy will turn into cyborgs so how can this be the best ending? also it makes no sense, so WTF?" I agree with the second part it needs more clarifing however the first part is just stupid to believe. Synthesis just makes organic and synthetics feel like the same. Thats not really the best way to word it however they will look out for each other and trust each other rather than ultimatly leading to the destruction of one another. Sorry if you still don't understand synthesis but this is not the point the point is that in destroy ALL organics will die off after a certain amount of time, in control at the very least it will save the younger species and just kill advanced ones or at most let civilization continue with the reapers having the major burden of trying to stop synthetics from getting out of control, in synthesis however galatic civilization will rebuild and synthetics will not kill all organics or pose a threat that could get out of hand.

You made it sound so simple and stupid I don't think you fully understand the implications of Synthesis.

Synthesis just makes organic and synthetics feel like the same. Thats not really the best way to word it however they will look out for each other and trust each other rather than ultimatly leading to the destruction of one another. Sorry if you still don't understand synthesis.

I don't think you understand it, you think you understand it but you don't.
In fact sole Synthetics  don't even exist as they have Organic material that forms them too.
Everyone is in the same boat and the galaxy is doomed to stalemate with nothing happening and no diversity.
It would be the same as making everyone in Dragon Age a tranquil.

Incorrect, you mixed synthetics and organics not every species in the galaxy

What?
You mixed all life in the galaxy with synthetics, it shows you this in the end.
ALL THE PLANTS ARE PARTLY SYNTHETIC
See I knew you didn't understand it fully

Yes you mixed the living with synthetic not all life.
I think you don't understand the ending.
On another note I may be wrong since bioware did a poor job of explaining it however I don't think your correct.

you mixed every organic life and flora with synthetics thats what the ending shows us

No you basically took organic DNA mixed it with synthetic DNA thing and i guess th plants were involved in oranic DNA since they are living.

thats exactly what I said? and by the way the catalyst says to shepard: "the chainreaction will combine all synthetic and organic life in to a new DNA"
the green shine on an organic living thing is what you get with synthesis

No you don't mix every organic with every synthetic they have an overall synthetic organic thing that is used.

[CuseGirl]

Really, with the quote pyramids....

[Obeded the 2nd]

CuseGirl wrote...

Sisterofshane wrote...

Ah, you drank the kool-aid.

Your entire premise for valuing the endings is that the Catalyst is correct in it's assumption that the organic-synthetic conflict will end with organic extinction (or even, that there is an inherent organic-synthetic conflict to begin with).

Personally, I like to think that the Catalyst created it's Reaper Solution with a false premise as it's basis.

There's nothing to believe there. He did create his Reaper solution with a false premise lolllll. It is exactly what you said it was, there's little room for debate, from a logical standpoint.

What I don't understand is, the Catalyst didn't create organics, right? So why does he have to the right to tell organics not to make synthetics anyway? Why does he have the right to quietly reside in some secret Citadel room and tell us "I need to liquefy organics and put that liquid in Reaper shells, because if I don't, those organics will make synthetics and then those synthetics will kill the organics"

His job is to protect organics this is the ony way to do so.
By this I mean reapers

[CuseGirl]

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

CuseGirl wrote...
There's nothing to believe there. He did create his Reaper solution with a false premise lolllll. It is exactly what you said it was, there's little room for debate, from a logical standpoint.

What I don't understand is, the Catalyst didn't create organics, right? So why does he have to the right to tell organics not to make synthetics anyway? Why does he have the right to quietly reside in some secret Citadel room and tell us "I need to liquefy organics and put that liquid in Reaper shells, because if I don't, those organics will make synthetics and then those synthetics will kill the organics"

His job is to protect organics this is the ony way to do so.
By this I mean reapers

You're trolling right? How come Bioware hasn't explained how "protecting" = "preserving" = "liquification in Reaper shell"?

[Firecell11]

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

Firecell11 wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

Firecell11 wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

The Protheans wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

The Protheans wrote...

 

Synthesis: This i the best ending. Now I know you are going to say" wait a second obeded, all things in the galaxy will turn into cyborgs so how can this be the best ending? also it makes no sense, so WTF?" I agree with the second part it needs more clarifing however the first part is just stupid to believe. Synthesis just makes organic and synthetics feel like the same. Thats not really the best way to word it however they will look out for each other and trust each other rather than ultimatly leading to the destruction of one another. Sorry if you still don't understand synthesis but this is not the point the point is that in destroy ALL organics will die off after a certain amount of time, in control at the very least it will save the younger species and just kill advanced ones or at most let civilization continue with the reapers having the major burden of trying to stop synthetics from getting out of control, in synthesis however galatic civilization will rebuild and synthetics will not kill all organics or pose a threat that could get out of hand.

You made it sound so simple and stupid I don't think you fully understand the implications of Synthesis.

Synthesis just makes organic and synthetics feel like the same. Thats not really the best way to word it however they will look out for each other and trust each other rather than ultimatly leading to the destruction of one another. Sorry if you still don't understand synthesis.

I don't think you understand it, you think you understand it but you don't.
In fact sole Synthetics  don't even exist as they have Organic material that forms them too.
Everyone is in the same boat and the galaxy is doomed to stalemate with nothing happening and no diversity.
It would be the same as making everyone in Dragon Age a tranquil.

Incorrect, you mixed synthetics and organics not every species in the galaxy

What?
You mixed all life in the galaxy with synthetics, it shows you this in the end.
ALL THE PLANTS ARE PARTLY SYNTHETIC
See I knew you didn't understand it fully

Yes you mixed the living with synthetic not all life.
I think you don't understand the ending.
On another note I may be wrong since bioware did a poor job of explaining it however I don't think your correct.

you mixed every organic life and flora with synthetics thats what the ending shows us

No you basically took organic DNA mixed it with synthetic DNA thing and i guess th plants were involved in oranic DNA since they are living.

thats exactly what I said? and by the way the catalyst says to shepard: "the chainreaction will combine all synthetic and organic life in to a new DNA"
the green shine on an organic living thing is what you get with synthesis

No you don't mix every organic with every synthetic they have an overall synthetic organic thing that is used.

wat? pls watch the conversation with the catalyst what it tells us about synthesis

Modifié par Firecell11, 30 avril 2012 - 09:15 .

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Obeded the 2nd wrote...
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His job is to protect organics this is the ony way to do so.
By this I mean reapers

Well, he (the catayst) certainly believes that. I think what he's doing is awful, and I think you agree correct?

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SirBob1613 wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

SirBob1613 wrote...

Destroy is best don't by into that the synthetics will kill all organics bull it won't happen. Look at the Geth they would have been prefectly fine of the Quirans didnt start shutting them down causeing them to rebel.
And they even let the Quirans leave without chaseing them. You can't assume what will happen 50000 years later without being there for all we know we will see synthetics and organics building massive space stations bigger then the citidel side by side, but i highly doubt synthetics will ever kill all organics unless we have a idiot start child who makes reapers again.

All of the starchilds logic is wrong.

Maybe true

However let me present EVIDENCE. You speak to a prothean VI on the asari homeworld correct, he says they are patterns in the galaxy that repeat eg: the reaper cycle and a group trying to control the reapers. In other words it is logical to assume that this creaed vs created will also be a pattern that emerges time after time.

So the reaper cycle and people controling the reapers supports that the created will always attack their creations out of stupidity?

Not out of stupidity, it would need more research by ME people to find out why this pattern exists.

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CuseGirl wrote...

Really, with the quote pyramids....

my thoughts exactly....

[Obeded the 2nd]

DubVee12 wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...
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His job is to protect organics this is the ony way to do so.
By this I mean reapers

Well, he (the catayst) certainly believes that. I think what he's doing is awful, and I think you agree correct?

I do agree