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[CuseGirl]

The quote pyramids my god...

[Obeded the 2nd]

CuseGirl wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

CuseGirl wrote...
There's nothing to believe there. He did create his Reaper solution with a false premise lolllll. It is exactly what you said it was, there's little room for debate, from a logical standpoint.

What I don't understand is, the Catalyst didn't create organics, right? So why does he have to the right to tell organics not to make synthetics anyway? Why does he have the right to quietly reside in some secret Citadel room and tell us "I need to liquefy organics and put that liquid in Reaper shells, because if I don't, those organics will make synthetics and then those synthetics will kill the organics"

His job is to protect organics this is the ony way to do so.
By this I mean reapers

You're trolling right? How come Bioware hasn't explained how "protecting" = "preserving" = "liquification in Reaper shell"?

Incorrect, I am not trolling.
For your second point just look at the ending, POOR WRITING.

[Obeded the 2nd]

CuseGirl wrote...

The quote pyramids my god...

[The Protheans]

Obeded the 2nd wrote...


No by your logic smart must be dumb, I mean all life is diffrent after this event  but still the same if you get what I mean, you more than likly don't.

I.. what...how....wahhhhh?

You compare two opposites of the scale.
Life and living aren't two opposites.
Life and Death are opposites, non-living and living are opposites.

Modifié par The Protheans, 30 avril 2012 - 09:20 .

[CuseGirl]

Even speaking to the prothean VI is a stupid conversation. I swear that twice Shepard explicitly asks what the Catalyst is and the VI responds with completely irrelevant information.

[DubVee12]

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

DubVee12 wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...
*snipped*

His job is to protect organics this is the ony way to do so.
By this I mean reapers

Well, he (the catayst) certainly believes that. I think what he's doing is awful, and I think you agree correct?

I do agree

Just clearing that up. I think a lot of people mistakenly believe you agreed with the catalyst harvesting us was "good".

[Obeded the 2nd]

The Protheans wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...


No by your logic smart must be dumb, I mean all life is diffrent after this event  but still the same if you get what I mean, you more than likly don't.

I.. what...how....wahhhhh?

You compare to opposites of the scale.
Life and living aren't two opposites.
Life and Death are opposite, non-living and living are opposite's.

I'm sorry my aggreesion can get the better of me and make me say stupid things.

[CuseGirl]

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

CuseGirl wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

CuseGirl wrote...
There's nothing to believe there. He did create his Reaper solution with a false premise lolllll. It is exactly what you said it was, there's little room for debate, from a logical standpoint.

What I don't understand is, the Catalyst didn't create organics, right? So why does he have to the right to tell organics not to make synthetics anyway? Why does he have the right to quietly reside in some secret Citadel room and tell us "I need to liquefy organics and put that liquid in Reaper shells, because if I don't, those organics will make synthetics and then those synthetics will kill the organics"

His job is to protect organics this is the ony way to do so.
By this I mean reapers

You're trolling right? How come Bioware hasn't explained how "protecting" = "preserving" = "liquification in Reaper shell"?

Incorrect, I am not trolling.
For your second point just look at the ending, POOR WRITING.

If the writing is poor, why are you supporting how the Starchild's logic makes sense? Because essentially the Starchild's logic is Casey Hudson's logic.

[Obeded the 2nd]

DubVee12 wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

DubVee12 wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...
*snipped*

His job is to protect organics this is the ony way to do so.
By this I mean reapers

Well, he (the catayst) certainly believes that. I think what he's doing is awful, and I think you agree correct?

I do agree

Just clearing that up. I think a lot of people mistakenly believe you agreed with the catalyst harvesting us was "good".

No The catalyst harvesting us is "bad" his idea of the created-creator conflict may be correct but is soultion is stupid.

[The Protheans]

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

The Protheans wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...


No by your logic smart must be dumb, I mean all life is diffrent after this event  but still the same if you get what I mean, you more than likly don't.

I.. what...how....wahhhhh?

You compare to opposites of the scale.
Life and living aren't two opposites.
Life and Death are opposite, non-living and living are opposite's.

I'm sorry my aggreesion can get the better of me and make me say stupid things.

I take it you still don't understand that all life has been changed.

[DubVee12]

CuseGirl wrote...
*snipping to avoid pyramid*

If the writing is poor, why are you supporting how the Starchild's logic makes sense? Because essentially the Starchild's logic is Casey Hudson's logic.

The logic makes sense to starchild, I believe is what he is trying to say. Not that he actually agrees with him. At least I think that is what he is saying...

[Obeded the 2nd]

CuseGirl wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

CuseGirl wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

CuseGirl wrote...
There's nothing to believe there. He did create his Reaper solution with a false premise lolllll. It is exactly what you said it was, there's little room for debate, from a logical standpoint.

What I don't understand is, the Catalyst didn't create organics, right? So why does he have to the right to tell organics not to make synthetics anyway? Why does he have the right to quietly reside in some secret Citadel room and tell us "I need to liquefy organics and put that liquid in Reaper shells, because if I don't, those organics will make synthetics and then those synthetics will kill the organics"

His job is to protect organics this is the ony way to do so.
By this I mean reapers

You're trolling right? How come Bioware hasn't explained how "protecting" = "preserving" = "liquification in Reaper shell"?

Incorrect, I am not trolling.
For your second point just look at the ending, POOR WRITING.

If the writing is poor, why are you supporting how the Starchild's logic makes sense? Because essentially the Starchild's logic is Casey Hudson's logic.

I'm not trying to defend his logic just trying to make people see what the best ending is, at least in my view.

[Obeded the 2nd]

The Protheans wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

The Protheans wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...


No by your logic smart must be dumb, I mean all life is diffrent after this event  but still the same if you get what I mean, you more than likly don't.

I.. what...how....wahhhhh?

You compare to opposites of the scale.
Life and living aren't two opposites.
Life and Death are opposite, non-living and living are opposite's.

I'm sorry my aggreesion can get the better of me and make me say stupid things.

I take it you still don't understand that all life has been changed.

No, I agree all life has been changed just not in the way your thinking of.

[DubVee12]

You never convince them to believe synthesis is good because we don't understand it (Bioware's fault mainly) and people always hate/fear what they don't understand.

[Obeded the 2nd]

DubVee12 wrote...

CuseGirl wrote...
*snipping to avoid pyramid*

If the writing is poor, why are you supporting how the Starchild's logic makes sense? Because essentially the Starchild's logic is Casey Hudson's logic.

The logic makes sense to starchild, I believe is what he is trying to say. Not that he actually agrees with him. At least I think that is what he is saying...

Listen to dubvee he explains it better than I do.

[CuseGirl]

Obeded the 2nd wrote...
I'm not trying to defend his logic just trying to make people see what the best ending is, at least in my view.

 I guess....It just seems like anyone trying to explain what the "best" option is is basically saying "this choice makes sense". The option can't really be good if it makes no sense with regards to the story. But everyone has a personal opinion. In my opinion, the best choice is the choice that results in dead Reapers. Because if the Prothean VI and Starchild's logic about cyclic behavior is to be taken seriously, the one factor in the cycle that can be removed are the Reapers.

[Obeded the 2nd]

DubVee12 wrote...

You never convince them to believe synthesis is good because we don't understand it (Bioware's fault mainly) and people always hate/fear what they don't understand.

It may not be explained but i'm sure the people here are intellegent and if they see the overall picture they will see why people can see synthesis is the best option.
It is unfortuate that it is explained so poorly though.

[Obeded the 2nd]

CuseGirl wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...
I'm not trying to defend his logic just trying to make people see what the best ending is, at least in my view.

 I guess....It just seems like anyone trying to explain what the "best" option is is basically saying "this choice makes sense". The option can't really be good if it makes no sense with regards to the story. But everyone has a personal opinion. In my opinion, the best choice is the choice that results in dead Reapers. Because if the Prothean VI and Starchild's logic about cyclic behavior is to be taken seriously, the one factor in the cycle that can be removed are the Reapers.

But even with bad choices there must be one that is better than the others even if it is for the long-run.

[Firecell11]

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

The Protheans wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

The Protheans wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...


No by your logic smart must be dumb, I mean all life is diffrent after this event  but still the same if you get what I mean, you more than likly don't.

I.. what...how....wahhhhh?

You compare to opposites of the scale.
Life and living aren't two opposites.
Life and Death are opposite, non-living and living are opposite's.

I'm sorry my aggreesion can get the better of me and make me say stupid things.

I take it you still don't understand that all life has been changed.

No, I agree all life has been changed just not in the way your thinking of.

what are you thinking how synthesis changed life then?

still can create synthetics
still have conflicts/war
so it doesnt really help

edit: synthetics will greate other synthetics (geth created other geth as example)

Modifié par Firecell11, 30 avril 2012 - 09:32 .

[Obeded the 2nd]

Firecell11 wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

The Protheans wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

The Protheans wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...


No by your logic smart must be dumb, I mean all life is diffrent after this event  but still the same if you get what I mean, you more than likly don't.

I.. what...how....wahhhhh?

You compare to opposites of the scale.
Life and living aren't two opposites.
Life and Death are opposite, non-living and living are opposite's.

I'm sorry my aggreesion can get the better of me and make me say stupid things.

I take it you still don't understand that all life has been changed.

No, I agree all life has been changed just not in the way your thinking of.

what are you thinking how synthesis changed life then?

still can create synthetics
still have conflicts/war
so it doesnt really help

It made synthetics and organis similar-same however organics wouldn't be changed from each other.

[The Protheans]

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

The Protheans wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

The Protheans wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...


No by your logic smart must be dumb, I mean all life is diffrent after this event  but still the same if you get what I mean, you more than likly don't.

I.. what...how....wahhhhh?

You compare to opposites of the scale.
Life and living aren't two opposites.
Life and Death are opposite, non-living and living are opposite's.

I'm sorry my aggreesion can get the better of me and make me say stupid things.

I take it you still don't understand that all life has been changed.

No, I agree all life has been changed just not in the way your thinking of.

Ok great I thought we would of got stuck there.
But sure it is open to speculation how much diversity is left when all life is partly synthetic and Organic.
I think it is one way and you think it is another way.

Modifié par The Protheans, 30 avril 2012 - 09:32 .

[DubVee12]

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

CuseGirl wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...
I'm not trying to defend his logic just trying to make people see what the best ending is, at least in my view.

 I guess....It just seems like anyone trying to explain what the "best" option is is basically saying "this choice makes sense". The option can't really be good if it makes no sense with regards to the story. But everyone has a personal opinion. In my opinion, the best choice is the choice that results in dead Reapers. Because if the Prothean VI and Starchild's logic about cyclic behavior is to be taken seriously, the one factor in the cycle that can be removed are the Reapers.

But even with bad choices there must be one that is better than the others even if it is for the long-run.

Actually, synthesis is best for you and that's fine because it's your opinion. Others view it differently and don't like it mainly because it is poorly explained. That's their opinion and it's fine. We all view things differently, that's what makes us unique!

[Obeded the 2nd]

The Protheans wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

The Protheans wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

The Protheans wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...


No by your logic smart must be dumb, I mean all life is diffrent after this event  but still the same if you get what I mean, you more than likly don't.

I.. what...how....wahhhhh?

You compare to opposites of the scale.
Life and living aren't two opposites.
Life and Death are opposite, non-living and living are opposite's.

I'm sorry my aggreesion can get the better of me and make me say stupid things.

I take it you still don't understand that all life has been changed.

No, I agree all life has been changed just not in the way your thinking of.

Ok great I thought we would of got stuck there.
But sure it is open to speculation how much diversity is left when all life is partly synthetic and Organic.
I think it is one way and you think it is another way.

We can agree on that

[Obeded the 2nd]

DubVee12 wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

CuseGirl wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...
I'm not trying to defend his logic just trying to make people see what the best ending is, at least in my view.

 I guess....It just seems like anyone trying to explain what the "best" option is is basically saying "this choice makes sense". The option can't really be good if it makes no sense with regards to the story. But everyone has a personal opinion. In my opinion, the best choice is the choice that results in dead Reapers. Because if the Prothean VI and Starchild's logic about cyclic behavior is to be taken seriously, the one factor in the cycle that can be removed are the Reapers.

But even with bad choices there must be one that is better than the others even if it is for the long-run.

Actually, synthesis is best for you and that's fine because it's your opinion. Others view it differently and don't like it mainly because it is poorly explained. That's their opinion and it's fine. We all view things differently, that's what makes us unique!

True but following the chain of events synthesis is the best one unless you want to doom the galaxy, or sort of doom it.

Modifié par Obeded the 2nd, 30 avril 2012 - 09:35 .

[CuseGirl]

Firecell11 wrote...
still can create synthetics
still have conflicts/war
so it doesnt really help

That's what makes me upset. Why does the Catalyst think the world should be free of conflict? It's part of the reality of life. Disagreement, conflict, anger, and yes, enough anger over an issue, you'll hit someone, shoot someone, kill someone. How does creating new DNA change that? 

Modifié par CuseGirl, 30 avril 2012 - 09:36 .