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[GuardianAngel470]

Unholyknight800 wrote...

Heretics! You would never understand the glorious woman that is Daro'Xen!

I would understand her better if I got the chance to dissect her corpse.

[Vapaa]

Good riddance

[Shajar]

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

If they do this, PLEASE give Shepard the option of going along with Xen (who kind of reminds me of "Walternate" on Fringe. I really want to see the inner workings of the Citadel. Don't make Shepard a ****** "oh you can't do that **** because it might save me from choosing A, B, or C!"

And tell me that none of you who always side with the Geth wouldn't fry the toasters to do this once.

I agree, if this is in game someday then please make option to choose between her and citadel

[mauro2222]

Good for Saphra.

[Esbatty]

Man I'd have loved to have done this mission. It sounds so... creepily horrific. Perfect for a war story.

[Lenimph]

Ehhh I'm ok not playing this one.

[TheBlackBaron]

Alpha-Centuri wrote...

Xen: Are you sleeping with him, Tali? Did someone get her induction filter popped on Pilgrimage? Or are you just stupid?

BEST LINE EVER!

That is brilliant.

However, while presenting the option for a "conventional" victory against the Reapers would be fascinating, the game shoves the Paragon view of the Quarian-Geth conflict down your throat enough. Xen is the only goddamn person in the entire galaxy that is looking for an option that does not involve a) wetting their pants and begging the geth for their homeworld back running off half-cocked into a win-or-die war with a much bigger win-or-die war already taking place. If this quest means turning her inexplicably evil, I'm okay with it getting cut. 

Modifié par TheBlackBaron, 18 mai 2012 - 06:59 .

[bahamutomega]

Greylycantrope wrote...

Could use some improvements but seeing this would have been sweet.

probably why it was cut - improvements cost time and money.  they also can't make money off it if it's ready to be included in the main game.  charging us for it as DLC ensures they make more money.

if true (and improved on), i could see this as a DLC.  wouldn't pay for it as it's content involves more running around on the Citadel.

if not true, hell, why not - we already know that Tali's father was doing some bat-**** crazy stuff to begin with, and that Adm Xen was a proponent of the end results.  still wouldn't pay for it, because the content involves... hey!  guess what!  more running around on the Citadel!

flesh out the content more, have Adm Xen start the experiments, have these suicidal semi-AI's (commonly referred to as suicidal VI's) go rogue and you have to actually stop a ship full of them after they have hijacked some rogue (the ones the asari Councilor mentioned) / surviving (if you killed the main forces off at Rannoch) geth and you have more inviting content than running around on the Citadel.

ensure that the end result (Xen dying / surviving) doesn't affect the War Assets - you get something at the end that makes up for Xen's loss, and you get nothing at the end if Xen survives, because the experiments had to be destroyed or wouldn't function - and you get something pre-end game that isn't game-breaking, doesn't affect the outcome (because the lost/gained assets are the same) and would be an interesting sidequest.

this thread may or may not belong here.  they do have another main forum for ME3 fan submissions.  if this script is truly included with the game, ok, it counts as a spoiler, but if not, it's technically fan submission material.  that being said, this was much better than some of the other fan submissions i've read.

[shodiswe]

Tom Lehrer wrote...

This mission would have put the Geth-Quarian relationship in a different light.

It looks like Xen is afraid the Geth will enslave the Quarians if peace was made. Doesn't Javik have a story about a people that got enslaved by AI they made in enhance their bodies...kinda like Geth uploaded in Quarain suits...

Yes he had one such story... apparently the protheans were slowly wiping them out and winning whne the reapers suddenly attacked.

The geth has got a choice, become lawabiding citizens of the galaxy or get wiped out. The proteans woudl have defeated those bodysnatchign AIs and the geth were about to get wiped out by the quarrians until the reapers intervened in both cases.

Imo, when I made peace between the geth and the quarrians the geth were given a second chance to show the galaxy they could live side by side with other races.

Assuming they survived whatever the crucible did in the end... It's up to the geth to prove they have a future. They may be more industrious than organics but they arn't more creative. and their advanced weapons are clearly reaper tech.. Handheld thanix cannons.

Also the geth arn't networked AIs any longer, each geth is has become a unique individual and the longer they live the more unique they will become, like Legion.

Hopefully the geth arn't wiped out in the future of the ME universe, and hopefully they wont all be railroaded of as monsterous killing machines. A few geth pirates? sure, but not the whole race or government. Least that's my hope.

When I played the game  really wanted to save the geth adn the rachni because they were the most unique life forms in the masseffect universe, they differed from all the rest in one way or another. That diversity is needed for a good story imo.

[Noelemahc]

this thread may or may not belong here. they do have another main forum for ME3 fan submissions. if this script is truly included with the game, ok, it counts as a spoiler, but if not, it's technically fan submission material. that being said, this was much better than some of the other fan submissions i've read.

All text provided is ripped directly from the TLK file of the game. I originally posted the raw scipt dump, but then stripped out the script tags for convenience of reading. Can put the raw data chunk as-is, if you want.

ensure that the end result (Xen dying / surviving) doesn't affect the War Assets

That is poor reasoning. One of the reasons people gripe the WA system is that is balances out SOME decisions in this asinine way, making your decisions irrelevant to the war effort, since when you reduce everything to a singular number, what difference does it make if it's a squad of Geth Primes or two news reporters? The only truly unbalanced-in-this-way decisions are usually either beneficial to Paragons or negative for Renegades, which is another point of contention - the only pro-Renegade thing in the entire system is the kill-Wrex-destroy-Maelon's-data-convince-Mordin-to-not-implement-cure path for Tuchanka, as it nets you more Salarians, gives you Mordin or Padok alive and well AND keeps the krogans in the war.

Xen is the only goddamn person in the entire galaxy that is looking for an option that does not involve a) wetting their pants and begging the geth for their homeworld back running off half-cocked into a win-or-die war with a much bigger win-or-die war already taking place

My point exactly. She shows signs of this in what little dialogue she has outside of this quest, but unless Tali died in your ME2 import, you won't even get to see or hear much of it.

after they have hijacked some rogue (the ones the asari Councilor mentioned)

Those were Reaper-controlled, kinda hard to hijack. That said, I was iffed they weren't a side mission. ME1 had oodles of ship-borne side-missions. ME2 had a handful. ME3? Only has Grissom that can qualify as such.

[Exozze]

Alpha-Centuri wrote...

Xen: Are you sleeping with him, Tali? Did someone get her induction filter popped on Pilgrimage? Or are you just stupid?

BEST LINE EVER!

This needs to be in the game ASAP! 

I would love to see this as a DLC, tough with some changes. 

[wombat_stalker]

And that's how the next generation of Reapers were created.

[JBPBRC]

sistersafetypin wrote...

Alpha-Centuri wrote...

Xen: Are you sleeping with him, Tali? Did someone get her induction filter popped on Pilgrimage? Or are you just stupid?

BEST LINE EVER!

Shepard: Legion helped me! I wont let you experiment on him!

Xen: So did your pistol.

--

I almost wish there was a book series for her

Joke's on her since I didn't even have a pistol. This makes her look even more insane. And I love it.

[Bat32391]

Damn Tvtropes leading me to random places on the internet.

[TheWerdna]

...why the hell wasn't this in the game?!?!?!

[SavagelyEpic]

Interesting.

[m2iCodeJockey]

Bat32391 wrote...

Damn Tvtropes leading me to random places on the internet.

!!!!!!!!!

[Ticonderoga117]

Ok, who gave this thread Tupari?

[SeptimusMagistos]

Aw! I enjoy dialogue acknowledging Tali romance. And also shooting Xen in the face.

I wonder how his quest would have played out if Shepard outright denied her supplies.

[Bill Casey]

I remember Sovereign saying that the Citadel was a trap. A way to lure organics in so the Reapers could destroy us more easily.
I think so. Look at this.
I know. But is that all the Citadel is?
So many have lived their lives here and called the Citadel "home". If it were just a trap, would the Reapers have added gardens?

Someone programmed them to think that way... to see the war as inevitable, so that destroying the organics was merciful.
They're like the geth. After the geth drove us into exile, they repaired our cities. Their programming made them care.

Right. They're still just machines.
They made this place a trap to prevent a war between organics and synthetics. So we wouldn't be destroyed permanently.
But they were wrong. You proved that it's not inevitable. My people are at peace right now.
They just think on a larger scale. 50,000 years to bait a trap.
Do you ever feel guilty? That we're stealing a quiet moment while the war goes on?

{chuckle} The night's young... You know what I mean.

You know what I mean.
Exactly.
Seeing what we're fighting for?
Do they? On the flotilla, we'd rotate people off active duty, but... we didn't have shores.
So, what, just look at trees and remember what we're fighting for?

I have a home.
I have a home... thanks to you.

I'm not fighting for them.
I've got Rannoch and the Normandy. That's more than enough to fight for.
Xen? Right about what?
It has to be more than that.

If we hadn't stopped Sovereign a few years ago, the Reapers would have destroyed us right then.


They care about us... somehow. The Reaper on Rannoch said everything it did was to prevent a war.

Why not? Bait for the trap. All that Reaper on Rannoch cared about was continuing the cycle.


Whatever their reasons, right now, we have this.

This isn't exactly dinner and a vid.
We just stopped a murderer who was sabotaging the keepers.
Part of me wants to be out there in the Normandy right now. There's still more to do.
But this matters, too.
Soldiers in wartime burn out without shore leave.
Anyway, soon as we're done here, we're getting back on the Normandy to win this war.
We're fighting for these people's home. Even if we don't have homes ourselves.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

After reading this, can't help but think of the "Citadel" DLC coming out in the future. Probably not the same thing, but still...

Modifié par LDS Darth Revan, 03 novembre 2012 - 06:36 .

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

I couldn't shoot Xen in the face. She's one of my favorite Quarians. I'd be siding with her.

Modifié par sH0tgUn jUliA, 03 novembre 2012 - 06:53 .

[Ranger Jack Walker]

I would have loved to see this quest in the game just to shoot Xen. Tali's father is right. That Bosh'tet is crazy.

[Jadebaby]

CHALET wrote...

Inb4 paid DLC.

[Jadebaby]

Bill Casey wrote...

I remember Sovereign saying that the Citadel was a trap. A way to lure organics in so the Reapers could destroy us more easily.
I think so. Look at this.
I know. But is that all the Citadel is?
So many have lived their lives here and called the Citadel "home". If it were just a trap, would the Reapers have added gardens?

Someone programmed them to think that way... to see the war as inevitable, so that destroying the organics was merciful.
They're like the geth. After the geth drove us into exile, they repaired our cities. Their programming made them care.

Right. They're still just machines.
They made this place a trap to prevent a war between organics and synthetics. So we wouldn't be destroyed permanently.
But they were wrong. You proved that it's not inevitable. My people are at peace right now.
They just think on a larger scale. 50,000 years to bait a trap.
Do you ever feel guilty? That we're stealing a quiet moment while the war goes on?

{chuckle} The night's young... You know what I mean.

You know what I mean.
Exactly.
Seeing what we're fighting for?
Do they? On the flotilla, we'd rotate people off active duty, but... we didn't have shores.
So, what, just look at trees and remember what we're fighting for?

I have a home.
I have a home... thanks to you.

I'm not fighting for them.
I've got Rannoch and the Normandy. That's more than enough to fight for.
Xen? Right about what?
It has to be more than that.

If we hadn't stopped Sovereign a few years ago, the Reapers would have destroyed us right then.


They care about us... somehow. The Reaper on Rannoch said everything it did was to prevent a war.

Why not? Bait for the trap. All that Reaper on Rannoch cared about was continuing the cycle.


Whatever their reasons, right now, we have this.

This isn't exactly dinner and a vid.
We just stopped a murderer who was sabotaging the keepers.
Part of me wants to be out there in the Normandy right now. There's still more to do.
But this matters, too.
Soldiers in wartime burn out without shore leave.
Anyway, soon as we're done here, we're getting back on the Normandy to win this war.
We're fighting for these people's home. Even if we don't have homes ourselves.

What's this from? It's awesome! especially the first part explaining how the inevitable synth vs organic war is wrong.