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[Ben Shep]

Bamford38 wrote...

Ben Shep wrote...

I hate it and would rather have paid dlc and a normal unlock system. Dare I say that a cod type ranking with weapon specific challenges would really suit ME3 mp.

You could unlock characters as you ranked up and unlock weapon upgrades by getting x amount of kills with that weapon.

Also they should of kept mp seperate from sp that way they could of ignored lore and had all sorts of different scenarios. It would of also done away with the whole not being able to get the best ending without mp.

Flame armour enabled.

Would you rather pay 1200msp for the resurgence pack?

If the answer is yes, you have issues.

perhaps 800msp with all chars and weaps available straight away and perhaps more than 2 maps.

[Bamford38]

Ben Shep wrote...

Bamford38 wrote...

Ben Shep wrote...

I hate it and would rather have paid dlc and a normal unlock system. Dare I say that a cod type ranking with weapon specific challenges would really suit ME3 mp.

You could unlock characters as you ranked up and unlock weapon upgrades by getting x amount of kills with that weapon.

Also they should of kept mp seperate from sp that way they could of ignored lore and had all sorts of different scenarios. It would of also done away with the whole not being able to get the best ending without mp.

Flame armour enabled.

Would you rather pay 1200msp for the resurgence pack?

If the answer is yes, you have issues.

perhaps 800msp with all chars and weaps available straight away and perhaps more than 2 maps.

If we are comparing it to COD, 1200msp for everything in the pack unlocked from the start is the going rate.

[Ben Shep]

Bamford38 wrote...

Ben Shep wrote...

Bamford38 wrote...

Ben Shep wrote...

I hate it and would rather have paid dlc and a normal unlock system. Dare I say that a cod type ranking with weapon specific challenges would really suit ME3 mp.

You could unlock characters as you ranked up and unlock weapon upgrades by getting x amount of kills with that weapon.

Also they should of kept mp seperate from sp that way they could of ignored lore and had all sorts of different scenarios. It would of also done away with the whole not being able to get the best ending without mp.

Flame armour enabled.

Would you rather pay 1200msp for the resurgence pack?

If the answer is yes, you have issues.

perhaps 800msp with all chars and weaps available straight away and perhaps more than 2 maps.

If we are comparing it to COD, 1200msp for everything in the pack unlocked from the start is the going rate.

I was just suggesting a similar unlock system and challenges, I wasnt asking for captain price character cards and geth plasma ak47.

[january42]

What's sad is there is a simple alternative.

Keep the store random, but don't give people stuff that is maxed.  (for charachters, when they have all appearances and are at level 20).   that would actualy encourage people to spend money as

1)It' stll random, so you get the benefits of a random system

2)Even if you don't get what you want exactly, you are making progress toward it by eliminating other options.

As it is, there no incentive to spend real money, as there is a 95+% chance you won't get anything for it.



I think the store is server side also, so they wouldn't even need to make a patch.

Modifié par january42, 01 mai 2012 - 12:21 .

[Bamford38]

Ben Shep wrote...

Bamford38 wrote...

Ben Shep wrote...

Bamford38 wrote...

Ben Shep wrote...

I hate it and would rather have paid dlc and a normal unlock system. Dare I say that a cod type ranking with weapon specific challenges would really suit ME3 mp.

You could unlock characters as you ranked up and unlock weapon upgrades by getting x amount of kills with that weapon.

Also they should of kept mp seperate from sp that way they could of ignored lore and had all sorts of different scenarios. It would of also done away with the whole not being able to get the best ending without mp.

Flame armour enabled.

Would you rather pay 1200msp for the resurgence pack?

If the answer is yes, you have issues.

perhaps 800msp with all chars and weaps available straight away and perhaps more than 2 maps.

If we are comparing it to COD, 1200msp for everything in the pack unlocked from the start is the going rate.

I was just suggesting a similar unlock system and challenges, I wasnt asking for captain price character cards and geth plasma ak47.

Oh right, i get it.

Then youre just wrong

[CenturyCrow]

NinthGeorgesw wrote...

I like the random store system.

Me too. I was ordering a Spectre Pack from BioWare, was randomly switched to to another game company where I could get what I wanted.

[Dashmundo]

I like the system. Makes buying a pack have some sort of excitement. Stop being a spoilt child, least of all using sweeping statements like "we almost all hate".

[Sousabird]

You Are an Idiot
ok well I could buy this p.o.s pistol upgrade or I could buy a black widow.... gee that'd be rewarding when you get it.

[Ikagawa]

Dashmundo wrote...

I like the system. Makes buying a pack have some sort of excitement. Stop being a spoilt child, least of all using sweeping statements like "we almost all hate".

I don't understand how disliking a randomized system is "being a spoiled child."

[Ben Shep]

Bamford38 wrote...

Ben Shep wrote...

Bamford38 wrote...

Ben Shep wrote...

Bamford38 wrote...

Ben Shep wrote...

I hate it and would rather have paid dlc and a normal unlock system. Dare I say that a cod type ranking with weapon specific challenges would really suit ME3 mp.

You could unlock characters as you ranked up and unlock weapon upgrades by getting x amount of kills with that weapon.

Also they should of kept mp seperate from sp that way they could of ignored lore and had all sorts of different scenarios. It would of also done away with the whole not being able to get the best ending without mp.

Flame armour enabled.

Would you rather pay 1200msp for the resurgence pack?

If the answer is yes, you have issues.

perhaps 800msp with all chars and weaps available straight away and perhaps more than 2 maps.

If we are comparing it to COD, 1200msp for everything in the pack unlocked from the start is the going rate.

I was just suggesting a similar unlock system and challenges, I wasnt asking for captain price character cards and geth plasma ak47.

Oh right, i get it.

Then youre just wrong

[Neurion19]

Would I pay MSPs for DLC with an unlock system that actually gave me the weapons that fit my playstyle? Umm.... yes.

I would pay MSPs instead of grinding away for credits to spend in a store where I knew what I was getting. I will not buy/spend MSPs on a broken random system that gives me no guarantee of an outcome that suits my playstyle. The devs won't even tell you what the chances are of drawing that rare or ultra-rare card in the system.

So why would I spend real, actual money when I don't even know what my CHANCES are of getting a card I want?

TL;DR - I would rather pay real money for stuff I want (DLC, weapons, characters) and enjoy MP with gear that suits my playstyle rather than grind for credits to use in a store where I don't know what my chances are of getting what I want and end up getting my 100th Drell Vanguard or another SMG/Pistol that I will never use.

[zeal.assassin]

Random isnt the problem the character cards are. They're pretty useless if you unlock all the appearance and is at level 20. Wish Bioware would allow us to store them like the reset power card. Or offer a packs that don't include it. I rather get a crappy weapon upgrade for a weapon I'll probably never use rather than a cc.

Modifié par zeal.assassin, 01 mai 2012 - 12:38 .

[Fucit0l]

Take any 'random drop' type game for comparison.

In ME3, you play level after level to amass money to be spent on random chances to find better items, items that will then be used to play level after level to amass money to be spent on random chances at better items...

Say.. Diablo, which is nothin like ME3. There are few enemies in those games that have a set 'rare drop'. The items you seek can be found most anywhere. Instead of playin through the game over and again, folks play the same levels back to back, beat the same bosses back to back, in hopes of an item dropping. Said item is then used to play those same levels and beat the same bosses in hopes of more of the same.

What's the difference? If there is one, it's likely unimportant.

I seen a shirt like that once. "How do you keep an idiot busy? Answer on back"

[Tiamatshade]

In WoW, I must have run TotGC dozens of times to get my shadow priest a Reign of the Unliving. Saw it drop three times in several months. Never got it. RNG is RNG, and there's no sense in giving people what they want. We'd get bored too quick, being satisfied too quick.

As for Bioware knowing we don't like it, and don't change it.... well, that's Bioware. They'll just say they need to stand by artistic integrity to keep it like this. They've already given us a general "Screw You" with "adding" ending info and not fixing plot holes.

We can't change it, therefore don't worry about it.

[gaminazn]

stribies wrote...

The people that don't hate it are the ones that don't have all their weapons at level 10 yet. The ones that do hate it have discovered just how terrible it is when they spend 20-25mins to get absolutely nothing in return.

Pretty much. It was fine until I maxed out the Resurgence rares. Then I got sad again.

[Aj90lfc]

If they changed it people wouldn't buy them with microsoft points - No money for the greeds at EA head office.

[comrade8472]

if you are a politian/tax man/EA/bank/really mean/weak on humour/don't like bad jokes/ human
DO NOT read any further.

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oh at least we don't have to pay taxes on all the credits that they are paying us with.
what 60000 cred = 1-5$ oh and then BiowarEA would have to pay cpp and other stuff at what ever the rate is that employers have to pay I think it's at least 1.5% more than what is already deducted off your check.
oh and the pain of doing all that paper work on tax returns ouch.
oh and all the tax avoidance charges. (from people refusing to pay em)
So Bioware please scrap your store before the tax man finds you. (today is the dead line in Canada for tax returns for 2011)
oh and then well I guess since we already bought the game we'd get everything unlocked?
hum I wonder would the feds also be mad enough to tax EXP point awarded to lvl your character?


"yes I know this is a pointless/useless and badly written attempt at a bad joke."
"And yes if this was implimented I would hope who ever bull rushed this through parliment/congress get's charged with inciting a riot, and has a very unpleasant life"

[maxtofunator]

Isn't it funny how people expect to get their way all the time as though they were 5 year old kids. You got what you wanted from this game once already, stop being whiny about it already.

[GGW KillerTiger]

FearTheReaper94 wrote...

You hate the whole concept that they have put in place, so they should change it?
Mmmm, better idea.....Deal with it. Its not that bad.

If mass Effect 3 multiplayer was a trading card game the unlock system would be fantastic but sadly it isn't. This is a shooter game ... Gets boring when you have everything but the ultra rare weapons unlocked and all you get are charachter cards. It's a waste of time .... Kind of why I stopped playing multiplayer outside of weekened events ..... So bored of not being able to mess around trying every build with every weapon because I can't get the remainders to X ...... Game is boring now and I can't stand to play it ....

[ismadiis]

I' ve nearly maxed everything, the system is fine for me. I think most people have their problems exaggerated because they don't buy smart. I wait for a special pack and then cut loose with credits. It's been pretty successful in terms of N7 weapons. My advice is to save now and target the premium spectre packs when they come back.

[GGW KillerTiger]

maxtofunator wrote...

Isn't it funny how people expect to get their way all the time as though they were 5 year old kids. You got what you wanted from this game once already, stop being whiny about it already.

Yea that's the problem right their .... Bioware caved to the 5 year olds that wantd a different ending and now everyone wants their way .... I do hate the unlock system though :innocent: This isn't Yu-Gi-Oh, Duel Masters, Pokemon, or Magic the Gathering ... .So why have a ****ty unlock system like one?

[stribies]

Tiamatshade wrote...

In WoW, I must have run TotGC dozens of times to get my shadow priest a Reign of the Unliving. Saw it drop three times in several months. Never got it. RNG is RNG, and there's no sense in giving people what they want. We'd get bored too quick, being satisfied too quick.

As for Bioware knowing we don't like it, and don't change it.... well, that's Bioware. They'll just say they need to stand by artistic integrity to keep it like this. They've already given us a general "Screw You" with "adding" ending info and not fixing plot holes.

We can't change it, therefore don't worry about it.

If wow was run by EA/bioware, your level 80 shadow priest would've gotten exp instead of reign of the unliving.

[Scalabrine]

The system is fine...they just need to change the character card problem and it's perfect.

I don't want to have all the weapons at X so quickly. I already have all of the non-ultra rares at X...at least something is making me come back.

[BDelacroix]

Most people love the skinner's box.  Its the most popular reward system in modern games.

It is also the easiest to implement. So maybe there is something in that.

[stribies]

I hate to say it, but I think I like the mass effect 3 ending better than the multiplayer store system.