Isn't it funny how we almost all hate the store random system but BW does nothing to change it?
#101
Posté 01 mai 2012 - 01:36
#102
Posté 01 mai 2012 - 01:40
So if you have all characters full and all rare weapons, you have a shot at N7 weapons but will mostly get equipment and reset cards. It would also be nice if we could set our own reset card limit instead of 3.
It's magic up in this *****.
#103
Posté 01 mai 2012 - 01:40
They're not doing any disservice to people who aren't complaining about it because they don't hate it.
#104
Posté 01 mai 2012 - 01:41
Seriously. Its not an ultra rare.
Modifié par born2beagator, 01 mai 2012 - 01:44 .
#105
Posté 01 mai 2012 - 01:43
Highlord Heian wrote...
It's funny when people think whining changes things because they don't like them.
They're not doing any disservice to people who aren't complaining about it because they don't hate it.
I don't think you remember what has happened to the quarian infiltrator and falcon......
#106
Posté 01 mai 2012 - 01:53
Scalabrine wrote...
The system is fine...they just need to change the character card problem and it's perfect.
I don't want to have all the weapons at X so quickly. I already have all of the non-ultra rares at X...at least something is making me come back.
Shouldn't the aspect of the game that gets players to come back be the gameplay and experience rather than unlocking a new gadgets?
It seems like everyone forgot (or werent around) the days of Firearms and BF1942 where all the guns were already unlocked and the reason you came back day after day was because the game simply rocked.
The only reason this isn't a big issue for me is because the multiplayer portion of ME3 is only 5% of the entire game, and if i'm missing half of the stuff in MP i'm missing at most 2.5% of my game.
Modifié par ArtGerhardt, 01 mai 2012 - 01:53 .
#107
Posté 01 mai 2012 - 01:55
stribies wrote...
Highlord Heian wrote...
It's funny when people think whining changes things because they don't like them.
They're not doing any disservice to people who aren't complaining about it because they don't hate it.
I don't think you remember what has happened to the quarian infiltrator and falcon......
HOLD THE LINE!
#108
Posté 01 mai 2012 - 01:56
#109
Posté 01 mai 2012 - 02:02
#110
Posté 01 mai 2012 - 02:02
It's all been character cards for **** I already have maxed out. I don't think it being random in and of its self is 'bad' (not my preference but not bad) but getting **** you already have maxed over things you don't is very disheartening.
#111
Posté 01 mai 2012 - 02:17
born2beagator wrote...
I liked it....until I was looking for one thing and one thing only; the Geth Engineer. Its getting increasingly more frustrating with every Spectre pack
Seriously. Its not an ultra rare.
Yeah this the boat I'm in - I find it funny how people are saying this is better than paying for the Resurgence Pack. Still missing the Justicar and Geth Engineer myself. But I have successfully nearly maxed a bunch of weapons I will probably never use.
I don't hate the system, but it is a quickly diminishing set of returns the more you play. Great when everything is new, but the grind is pretty harsh when you're looking for a much smaller subset.
If you have a decent Gold group I think this gets somewhat mitigated since you can burn through Spectre packs much faster - but the average PUG slows this down considerably.
#112
Posté 01 mai 2012 - 02:20
stribies wrote...
Highlord Heian wrote...
It's funny when people think whining changes things because they don't like them.
They're not doing any disservice to people who aren't complaining about it because they don't hate it.
I don't think you remember what has happened to the quarian infiltrator and falcon......
What has happened?
#113
Posté 01 mai 2012 - 02:20
stribies wrote...
Highlord Heian wrote...
It's funny when people think whining changes things because they don't like them.
They're not doing any disservice to people who aren't complaining about it because they don't hate it.
I don't think you remember what has happened to the quarian infiltrator and falcon......
Nothing I care about, if you were trying to make a point.
#114
Posté 01 mai 2012 - 02:20
RegularX wrote...
born2beagator wrote...
I liked it....until I was looking for one thing and one thing only; the Geth Engineer. Its getting increasingly more frustrating with every Spectre pack
Seriously. Its not an ultra rare.
Yeah this the boat I'm in - I find it funny how people are saying this is better than paying for the Resurgence Pack. Still missing the Justicar and Geth Engineer myself. But I have successfully nearly maxed a bunch of weapons I will probably never use.
I don't hate the system, but it is a quickly diminishing set of returns the more you play. Great when everything is new, but the grind is pretty harsh when you're looking for a much smaller subset.
If you have a decent Gold group I think this gets somewhat mitigated since you can burn through Spectre packs much faster - but the average PUG slows this down considerably.
I only have one good gold group
#115
Posté 01 mai 2012 - 02:20
#116
Posté 01 mai 2012 - 02:23
#117
Posté 01 mai 2012 - 02:39
#118
Posté 01 mai 2012 - 03:10
#119
Posté 01 mai 2012 - 03:15
Utopianus wrote...
I understand the idea behind it, having played F2P games before, so I'm just thankful that I do have an alternate way in obtaining the same equips, however longer that is, as those who pay real cash.
Just a quick point - ME3 MP is most certainly not Free 2 Play. Everyone here paid cash money for it. This is a way for them to milk even more money out of the player base. The system doesn't bother me as a player, but as a gamer the trend in the industry is disturbing to say the least. Thanks WoW, this is all your fault.
#120
Posté 01 mai 2012 - 03:22
#121
Posté 01 mai 2012 - 03:25
#122
Posté 01 mai 2012 - 03:25
RegularX wrote...
stribies wrote...
Highlord Heian wrote...
It's funny when people think whining changes things because they don't like them.
They're not doing any disservice to people who aren't complaining about it because they don't hate it.
I don't think you remember what has happened to the quarian infiltrator and falcon......
What has happened?
A lot people cried like a crack **** after a visit from their pimps. So BW Nerfed Sabotage, Then Nerfed the Falcon's ROF, then buffed the Geth.
#123
Posté 01 mai 2012 - 03:32
bclagge wrote...
Utopianus wrote...
I understand the idea behind it, having played F2P games before, so I'm just thankful that I do have an alternate way in obtaining the same equips, however longer that is, as those who pay real cash.
Just a quick point - ME3 MP is most certainly not Free 2 Play. Everyone here paid cash money for it. This is a way for them to milk even more money out of the player base. The system doesn't bother me as a player, but as a gamer the trend in the industry is disturbing to say the least. Thanks WoW, this is all your fault.
Just a quick point: You're an idiot. This isn't the fault of Blizzard. Blizzard didn't invent microtransactions. They didn't invent expansions to games either. Just because you dislike the company or the game does not make them the root of all evil.
#124
Posté 01 mai 2012 - 03:37
Biotic_Warlock wrote...
It's fine as it is.
Stop whining.
This message has been approved by Arnold Schwarzenegger.
#125
Posté 01 mai 2012 - 04:26
Ikagawa wrote...
bclagge wrote...
Utopianus wrote...
I understand the idea behind it, having played F2P games before, so I'm just thankful that I do have an alternate way in obtaining the same equips, however longer that is, as those who pay real cash.
Just a quick point - ME3 MP is most certainly not Free 2 Play. Everyone here paid cash money for it. This is a way for them to milk even more money out of the player base. The system doesn't bother me as a player, but as a gamer the trend in the industry is disturbing to say the least. Thanks WoW, this is all your fault.
Just a quick point: You're an idiot. This isn't the fault of Blizzard. Blizzard didn't invent microtransactions. They didn't invent expansions to games either. Just because you dislike the company or the game does not make them the root of all evil.
Why the vitriol? I don't hate WoW, I've never even played it. I certainly don't hate Blizzard. The comment was tongue in cheek. And you seem to have misunderstood my point.
Games used to be pay once - play forever. Expansions were a set price and added a set amount of content - roughly the same value as the original game. Then Blizzard created WoW which they charge a fee to play over time. They make so much money hand over fist that every other game company in existence said, "Holy smokes! We've been doing it wrong all along! How can we make MORE money off each customer?" It's the same question every corporation on the planet asks because customers are just numbers to them. How do you get each person involved to spend more money? It's why they have an impulse buy section at the drug store. You were only going to buy diapers, but you saw the candy and bought that too. Instead of spending $10, you spend $12. Over millions of transactions that adds up to a substantial amount of money.
Now many game companies seek ways to milk MORE money out of each customer. $60 now instead of $50 original purchase price. $10 day 1 DLC. Multiplayer microtransactions. Not only that, you might be able to get the game on sale in year, but the price of the DLC doesn't seem to ever change. I know because I paid $35 for most of the ME2 DLC. So they're trying to squeeze more money out of each customer for content that used to come with the game when you bought it. I pointed to WoW because they were the catalyst that made game companies realize that people were willing to spend more money. They were the first dominoe.





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