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Isn't it funny how we almost all hate the store random system but BW does nothing to change it?


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scottster117

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The store will never change. It's bioware's carrot dangling in front of all our faces. Give players the ability to choose what they buy, and players would lose interest much faster and would spend less money on packs.

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 The system can be fixed without breaking it or BioWare losing money. Take full character cards off of the loot table, leave the N7 drop rate as-is, and add a chance for extra equipment and consumables if no rare item can be given. 

So if you have all characters full and all rare weapons, you have a shot at N7 weapons but will mostly get equipment and reset cards. It would also be nice if we could set our own reset card limit instead of 3. 

It's magic up in this *****. :wizard:

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Highlord Heian

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It's funny when people think whining changes things because they don't like them.

They're not doing any disservice to people who aren't complaining about it because they don't hate it.

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I liked it....until I was looking for one thing and one thing only; the Geth Engineer. Its getting increasingly more frustrating with every Spectre pack

Seriously.  Its not an ultra rare.

Modifié par born2beagator, 01 mai 2012 - 01:44 .


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Highlord Heian wrote...

It's funny when people think whining changes things because they don't like them.

They're not doing any disservice to people who aren't complaining about it because they don't hate it.


I don't think you remember what has happened to the quarian infiltrator and falcon......

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The system is fine...they just need to change the character card problem and it's perfect.

I don't want to have all the weapons at X so quickly. I already have all of the non-ultra rares at X...at least something is making me come back.


Shouldn't the aspect of the game that gets players to come back be the gameplay and experience rather than unlocking a new gadgets?

It seems like everyone forgot (or werent around)  the days of Firearms and BF1942 where all the guns were already unlocked and the reason you came back day after day was because the game simply rocked.

The only reason this isn't a big issue for me is because the multiplayer portion of ME3 is only 5%  of the entire game, and if i'm missing half of the stuff in MP i'm missing at most 2.5% of my game.

Modifié par ArtGerhardt, 01 mai 2012 - 01:53 .


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stribies wrote...

Highlord Heian wrote...

It's funny when people think whining changes things because they don't like them.

They're not doing any disservice to people who aren't complaining about it because they don't hate it.


I don't think you remember what has happened to the quarian infiltrator and falcon......


HOLD THE LINE!

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Slot machines basically subsidize all other games at casinos. Without slots, they wouldn't be able to cover costs without making unpopular changes to other games. But the slot machines... they're like cash factories. Especially since they went digital and they could tweak the odds behind the scenes.

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What they should do is keep the system they current have set up, but for every pack you get 1 Weapon Upgrade card that lets you choose any weapon to upgrade by one level. Of course to balance this out, the pack you opened grants the upgrade for the pack's set of weapons (i.e. recruit = common weapons, veteran = uncommon, etc.)

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I don't mind it, I just dislike that they allow characters to be unlocked after they've been unlocked. EXP is a constant, getting bonus xp from characters you already have unlocked is pointless. At the very least I'd like it if the ultra-rares got a huge increased chance of 'dropping' once that was all you had left to unlock. Cause as it stands I've bought a few hundred packs over the past few weeks and not gotten a single one.

It's all been character cards for **** I already have maxed out. I don't think it being random in and of its self is 'bad' (not my preference but not bad) but getting **** you already have maxed over things you don't is very disheartening.

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born2beagator wrote...

I liked it....until I was looking for one thing and one thing only; the Geth Engineer. Its getting increasingly more frustrating with every Spectre pack

Seriously.  Its not an ultra rare.


Yeah this the boat I'm in - I find it funny how people are saying this is better than paying for the Resurgence Pack.  Still missing the Justicar and Geth Engineer myself.  But I have successfully nearly maxed a bunch of weapons I will probably never use.

I don't hate the system, but it is a quickly diminishing set of returns the more you play.  Great when everything is new, but the grind is pretty harsh when you're looking for a much smaller subset.

If you have a decent Gold group I think this gets somewhat mitigated since you can burn through Spectre packs much faster - but the average PUG slows this down considerably.

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stribies wrote...

Highlord Heian wrote...

It's funny when people think whining changes things because they don't like them.

They're not doing any disservice to people who aren't complaining about it because they don't hate it.


I don't think you remember what has happened to the quarian infiltrator and falcon......


What has happened?

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Highlord Heian

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stribies wrote...

Highlord Heian wrote...

It's funny when people think whining changes things because they don't like them.

They're not doing any disservice to people who aren't complaining about it because they don't hate it.


I don't think you remember what has happened to the quarian infiltrator and falcon......


Nothing I care about, if you were trying to make a point.

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RegularX wrote...

born2beagator wrote...

I liked it....until I was looking for one thing and one thing only; the Geth Engineer. Its getting increasingly more frustrating with every Spectre pack

Seriously.  Its not an ultra rare.


Yeah this the boat I'm in - I find it funny how people are saying this is better than paying for the Resurgence Pack.  Still missing the Justicar and Geth Engineer myself.  But I have successfully nearly maxed a bunch of weapons I will probably never use.

I don't hate the system, but it is a quickly diminishing set of returns the more you play.  Great when everything is new, but the grind is pretty harsh when you're looking for a much smaller subset.

If you have a decent Gold group I think this gets somewhat mitigated since you can burn through Spectre packs much faster - but the average PUG slows this down considerably.


I only have one good gold group :(

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they make more money this way, why should they change it? You're the one who's funny. They are smart.

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People still use it, why would they?

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I understand the idea behind it, having played F2P games before, so I'm just thankful that I do have an alternate way in obtaining the same equips, however longer that is, as those who pay real cash.

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I just wish they would add a 'weapon upgrade' card, that can be used on anything that we have already unlocked. It's depressing to think that I need to rely on random chance to make weapons I already have useable on any but the most specialized characters.

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Utopianus wrote...

I understand the idea behind it, having played F2P games before, so I'm just thankful that I do have an alternate way in obtaining the same equips, however longer that is, as those who pay real cash.


Just a quick point - ME3 MP is most certainly not Free 2 Play.  Everyone here paid cash money for it.  This is a way for them to milk even more money out of the player base.  The system doesn't bother me as a player, but as a gamer the trend in the industry is disturbing to say the least.  Thanks WoW, this is all your fault.

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Is it really suprising? they make tons of money off it, their money is more important than our happiness.

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I like it, I hate getting character cards I already maxed out, that's my only complaint.

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RegularX wrote...

stribies wrote...

Highlord Heian wrote...

It's funny when people think whining changes things because they don't like them.

They're not doing any disservice to people who aren't complaining about it because they don't hate it.


I don't think you remember what has happened to the quarian infiltrator and falcon......


What has happened?


A lot people cried like a crack **** after a visit from their pimps.  So BW Nerfed Sabotage, Then Nerfed the Falcon's ROF, then buffed the Geth.  

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bclagge wrote...

Utopianus wrote...

I understand the idea behind it, having played F2P games before, so I'm just thankful that I do have an alternate way in obtaining the same equips, however longer that is, as those who pay real cash.


Just a quick point - ME3 MP is most certainly not Free 2 Play.  Everyone here paid cash money for it.  This is a way for them to milk even more money out of the player base.  The system doesn't bother me as a player, but as a gamer the trend in the industry is disturbing to say the least.  Thanks WoW, this is all your fault.


Just a quick point: You're an idiot. This isn't the fault of Blizzard. Blizzard didn't invent microtransactions. They didn't invent expansions to games either. Just because you dislike the company or the game does not make them the root of all evil.

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Biotic_Warlock wrote...

It's fine as it is.
Stop whining.


This message has been approved by Arnold Schwarzenegger.

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Ikagawa wrote...

bclagge wrote...

Utopianus wrote...

I understand the idea behind it, having played F2P games before, so I'm just thankful that I do have an alternate way in obtaining the same equips, however longer that is, as those who pay real cash.


Just a quick point - ME3 MP is most certainly not Free 2 Play.  Everyone here paid cash money for it.  This is a way for them to milk even more money out of the player base.  The system doesn't bother me as a player, but as a gamer the trend in the industry is disturbing to say the least.  Thanks WoW, this is all your fault.


Just a quick point: You're an idiot. This isn't the fault of Blizzard. Blizzard didn't invent microtransactions. They didn't invent expansions to games either. Just because you dislike the company or the game does not make them the root of all evil.


Why the vitriol?  I don't hate WoW, I've never even played it.  I certainly don't hate Blizzard.  The comment was tongue in cheek.  And you seem to have misunderstood my point.

Games used to be pay once - play forever.  Expansions were a set price and added a set amount of content - roughly the same value as the original game.  Then Blizzard created WoW which they charge a fee to play over time.  They make so much money hand over fist that every other game company in existence said, "Holy smokes!  We've been doing it wrong all along!  How can we make MORE money off each customer?"  It's the same question every corporation on the planet asks because customers are just numbers to them.  How do you get each person involved to spend more money?  It's why they have an impulse buy section at the drug store.  You were only going to buy diapers, but you saw the candy and bought that too.  Instead of spending $10, you spend $12.  Over millions of transactions that adds up to a substantial amount of money.

Now many game companies seek ways to milk MORE money out of each customer.  $60 now instead of $50 original purchase price.  $10 day 1 DLC.  Multiplayer microtransactions.  Not only that, you might be able to get the game on sale in year, but the price of the DLC doesn't seem to ever change.  I know because I paid $35 for most of the ME2 DLC.  So they're trying to squeeze more money out of each customer for content that used to come with the game when you bought it.  I pointed to WoW because they were the catalyst that made game companies realize that people were willing to spend more money.  They were the first dominoe.