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[Vox Draco]

M0keys wrote...

There's no way to know if it ends the Reaper threat forever

the reapers have been going for a billion years. surely they have some reapers still out in dark space for some reason or another?

Well..even if this is the case...with Destroy being the only decision that might leave also Shepard alive...I do not fear this! Shepard has soemthing to say on this...

"I know a thing or two about killing Reapers...this isn't about about strategy or tactics, this is about survival...tell your friends we are coming for them!"

And no space can be dark enough to hide you...genocidal cuttlefishys...that is MY wishful thinking!

[M0keys]

ArchDuck wrote...

Honestly? If it had been the humans I would have felt a tad bit better about it. Ultimate human sacrifice to save everyone else would have been so much more ... elegant?... noble?
Not sure, it just feels to be a better fit.

How in the world is that noble?

You're killing billions of innocents who aren't even fighting. Helpless babies and feeble old people. Come on. Are you so eager to do things the easy way that you'd become the most evil sentient life form in the history of the galaxy?

And that's not even bringing up the fact that the one person who stopped the Reapers at all is human himself. Perhaps an extreme assumption, but wiping out all of mankind might leave the galaxy vulnerable in some intangible way in the future.

Modifié par M0keys, 01 mai 2012 - 07:33 .

[IanPolaris]

There is nothing noble and nothing nice or even moral about ANY of the endings. However, I find destroy to be the least vile simply because it does actually save the galaxy from the Reaper threat forever (and the others don't).

Frankly it's pick your own Warcrime at the behest of a lying genocidal starbrat.

-Polaris

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

The thing is that if you saved the geth, and didn't pick destroy or synthesis, after the war, what happens when the Geth decide they are superior to organics? They can crank themselves out like cars at GM or Toyota, and just drop in the AI computers. Bam! fully functional fully AI battle ready units. Try going up against that. And they don't even need a habitable planet. They'd overrun the galaxy.

They know their purpose. They know they are essentially immortal. They know their creators. And they can be ruthless. They know organics are frail, have limited lifespans. The peace won't last.

[Frostmourne86]

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

The thing is that if you saved the geth, and didn't pick destroy or synthesis, after the war, what happens when the Geth decide they are superior to organics? They can crank themselves out like cars at GM or Toyota, and just drop in the AI computers. Bam! fully functional fully AI battle ready units. Try going up against that. And they don't even need a habitable planet. They'd overrun the galaxy.

They know their purpose. They know they are essentially immortal. They know their creators. And they can be ruthless. They know organics are frail, have limited lifespans. The peace won't last.

If only the writers had said the reasoning for the cyclical destruction this way - its much easier to understand!

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[PistolPete7556]

"Victory, at any cost"

[Kelwing]

Destroy ending is only an issue if you believe what you were being told. I don't, so was rather simple choice each time. Geth and EDI are based partially on reaper coding not reaper tech. If Shepard can survive then it's believable that they can too. Until Bioware shows me otherwise that is how I will look at it.

[Shajar]

It pains me to choose red ending because of this. I prefer control ending because i dont want to do any genocides even to Reapers, but i need to choose red because Shepard still have hope to build home to Rannoch

[SovereignX6]

They're synthetics! They don't feel pain, i think. But still, untrusted.

[Orumon]

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

The thing is that if you saved the geth, and didn't pick destroy or synthesis, after the war, what happens when the Geth decide they are superior to organics? They can crank themselves out like cars at GM or Toyota, and just drop in the AI computers. Bam! fully functional fully AI battle ready units. Try going up against that. And they don't even need a habitable planet. They'd overrun the galaxy.

They know their purpose. They know they are essentially immortal. They know their creators. And they can be ruthless. They know organics are frail, have limited lifespans. The peace won't last.

Your argument relies on the same flawed assumption as the catalyst wich is disproven in any universe not directly governed by fate, there are no guarantees for anything. Extrapolate probabilities far enough and all things becomes certain.

Is this a possibility? Yes, but so's a Warhammer 40k style universe with everyone at war. Bear in mind that the actions of hitler have rarely been done in history, since most people prefer to exploit, ignore, marginalise or enslave those they consider 'lesser races'.

Peace requires effort to sustain and it has entirely different challenges to war.

Secondly, the purpose the geth had prior to their upgrade? To achieve their ultimate goal of maximising the geth consensus' wholeness? That goal is now moot, for each geth program is now a whole being in their own right. 
Their current purpose, if alive? To stop the reapers.
I wonder what their next purpose will be?
To exterminate all organic life?
To help uplift others?
To profit immensely?
Will each individual geth pursue their own personal goals, relying only on the group communications for code of conduct or will they remain a tightly knit culture?

These are just a fraction of the questions that must be adressed, and sadly, in destroy, eradicated to get rid of the real enemy.

[Orumon]

SovereignX6 wrote...

They're synthetics! They don't feel pain, i think. But still, untrusted.

You can't trust anyone. Why start with the geth?