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[Megaton_Hope]

I am really curious what happened other than the break-up, because if that's all it was, that's some psycho stuff right there. (Although why would you go to your ex's dentist office anyway, man, dumb.)

[Joy Divison]

Seagloom wrote...

No offense taken. I know I don't, regardless of the impression my words made.

I think the difference between me and most others here is I'm interested in understanding why someone acts as they do--especially in extreme circumstances such as this case. I do not consider myself a paragon. The real definition of paragon that is, not the Mass Effect version. I strive to be the best person I can be; while accepting that I can only make reasonable assumptions of how I would react to a given experience.

I could climb on a soapbox on an internet forum, and proclaim how X person is a lunatic, and no decent human being would commit Y act. However, I do not really believe it is always that simple. People are not simple. As much as many of us think we know ourselves, most of us have not had our beliefs truly tested. I know some people are completely sure of themselves, but I'm not that kind of person. If I can accept the possibility I might not do the right thing after a bad experience, or a combination of bad experiences, then I have to accept anyone else can too.

And before anyone asks if I'm interested in being a psychologist, I'm not. So no worries about running into me and having the crazy rub off on you.

The difference here is that everyone on this forum except you recognizes it is wrong, under every and any circumstance, for a medical pracitioner to inflict bodily harm and permanent damage on a client for personal reasons.

Or have you forgot there are courts whose function in society is to handle such matters where punishment is judged warranted?

Modifié par Joy Divison, 01 mai 2012 - 04:08 .

[KnightofPhoenix]

Well she's an idiot for essentially ruining her career after years of study. Well done.

[Seagloom]

Joy Divison wrote...

The difference here is that everyone on this forum except you recognizes it is wrong, under every and any circumstance, for a medical pracitioner to inflict bodily harm and permanent damage on a client for personal reasons.

Or have you forgot there are courts whose function in society is to handle such matters where punishment is judged warranted?

You should reread my posts instead of presuming. I did not suggest it was right. I stated that on some level, it might be understandable in certain instances depending on the circumstances. And even then, I qualified my statement by noting that it was likely not the case here; given the information presented in the linked article made no mention of mitigating circumstances such as abuse.

Modifié par Seagloom, 01 mai 2012 - 04:21 .

[termokanden]

Seagloom wrote...

As extreme as yanking out his teeth was, I find it hard to pass judgment without knowing the details. Depending on how he dumped her and the reasoning behind it, he may have had it coming. They probably deserved each other.

I can't help but notice that there's a tendency to think a woman must have had her reasons for doing something bad, but a man is just plain evil no matter what happened.

I don't know if that's what's going on here, but I became mighty suspicious when I read the speculations about whether he had abused her. Feel free to tell me I'm wrong though.

[Megaton_Hope]

It's just hard to believe that she'd go right to maiming him for life, if all that happened is they had a fight and decided to see other people.

[termokanden]

Perhaps. But it's not as far-fetched as you might think. Sometimes people get mad and do crazy things.

[Seagloom]

termokanden wrote...

I can't help but notice that there's a tendency to think a woman must have had her reasons for doing something bad, but a man is just plain evil no matter what happened.

I don't know if that's what's going on here, but I became mighty suspicious when I read the speculations about whether he had abused her. Feel free to tell me I'm wrong though.

Indeed. There is a tendency to believe a woman is not as capable of committing violent acts as a man. That tendency is in fact why this story made the news. Oooh, crazy spurned dentist woman gets revenge on ex! Yada yada.

I will admit, my initial reaction to this story may have been fueled by a sexist reply or two I read. I even quoted one of them in my first post here. When another forumite suggested that probably was not the case given the article's contents, I accepted there was probably no abuse in this situation. Which is why I started writing in hypotheticals after that point.

Of course, now some people think I support this woman's actions because I'm not willing to break out the pitchfork and torch and join the mob. Feh.

Modifié par Seagloom, 01 mai 2012 - 04:34 .

[Joy Divison]

Seagloom wrote...

Joy Divison wrote...

The difference here is that everyone on this forum except you recognizes it is wrong, under every and any circumstance, for a medical pracitioner to inflict bodily harm and permanent damage on a client for personal reasons.

Or have you forgot there are courts whose function in society is to handle such matters where punishment is judged warranted?

You should reread my posts instead of presuming. I did not suggest it was right. I stated that on some level, it might be understandable in certain instances depending on the circumstances. And even then, I qualified my statement by noting that it was likely not the case here; given the information presented in the linked article made no mention of mitigating circumstances such as abuse.

I did read you posts.  It's not "understandable" in any instance or circumstance.  What you want to say is that her motivations may have been driven by extreme domestic abuse or such, but there is a gulf of difference between "understandable" and acknowledging the motivations behind her criminal act.

Modifié par Joy Divison, 01 mai 2012 - 04:45 .

[Seagloom]

Joy Divison wrote...

I did read you posts.  It's not "understandable" in any instance or circumstance.  What you want to say is that her motivations may have been driven by extreme domestic abuse or such, but there is a gulf between "understandable" and acknowledging the motivations behind her criminal act.

Okay, fine. So the reason you took me to task is what? Poor diction on my part? I guess I could have chosen a word more reflective of my thoughts than "understandable". You could have written that in the first place.

[termokanden]

Seagloom wrote...

Indeed. There is a tendency to believe a woman is not as capable of committing violent acts as a man. That tendency is in fact why this story made the news. Oooh, crazy spurned dentist woman gets revenge on ex! Yada yada.

Yep. That's what I mean though, adults should be capable of making their own decisions and carrying the responsibility. It just doesn't go hand-in-hand with the innocent victim role. Anyway, I'm getting off-topic.

Anyway, as careful as I am about trying to excuse her actions, we do of course not have any way of telling what possible reasons she could have had. So count me out of that lynch mob.

[Megaton_Hope]

You can understand a person's actions without necessarily supporting them. Like, a person can understand where Lorena Bobitt was coming from. But she could also have left the room without any part of John Bobitt. That would have been allowed.

[Naughty Bear]

Teaches the man a lesson to cheat.

The woman should of got a 10 year prison as she is obviously a threat to society and/or let the man take her teeth out. Eye for an eye.

Justice for both.

[Naughty Bear]

Atomic pepper wrote...

Naughty Bear wrote...

Teaches the man a lesson to cheat.

The woman should of got a 10 year prison as she is obviously a threat to society and/or let the man take her teeth out. Eye for an eye.

Justice for both.

The woman was dumped, but there's not a single reference to cheating in the article.

I read earlier that day I think may have or was a similar article for this, that the man dumped her for someone else and cheating may have been involved. If not then I was wrong about the man deserving its, he should still be able to have the woman teeth all pulled out. I'm on Blackberry and links don't properly work well. Or do paragraphs.

[Kris69]

Yea, only in Poland..

[TEWR]

I read about this earlier in the week.

I have to wonder how anyone can side with the dentist. On a professional level, she's an idiot. She trashed her career for revenge.

On a personal level, while I can understand her emotions she shouldn't have used her job as the place where she exacted her revenge.

The worst part about this incident for the guy is that his girlfriend at that time dumped him because he no longer had any teeth. The woman not only trashed her career, but ruined someone else's life all because they weren't together.

Earth: populated by 93% insane people. And not the lovably insane people either.

Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 05 mai 2012 - 10:53 .

[slimgrin]

That is all kinds of f*cked up. Poor bastard.

[Il Divo]

happy_daiz wrote...

Would that be considered vandalism? Or theft?

Haha, best response of the thread, by far.

Modifié par Il Divo, 05 mai 2012 - 10:13 .

[Fishy]

So he already had a new girlfriend some day after breaking up with her? and the poor bastard went to her office LOL. and she removed all of his TEETH,...

Man that ****ed up. That girl just have lost her right to practice medecine.. What a stupid Woman. Just because of a ******.

[RedArmyShogun]

Well looks like this was a waste of time.

The story has been confirmed as a Hoax.

[android654]

Hoax or not, it just sounded to me like inventive foreplay to me.

[Chromie]

android654 wrote...

Hoax or not, it just sounded to me like inventive foreplay to me.

Harder harder Android!