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[Vinchisters]

My only regret is coming to the BSN every day to see 3 new ending/Mass Effect 3/ Bioware hate threads and getting mad about them every time.

[Malchat]

Nah, no real regrets.

Just feeling a little silly for getting my hopes up about a videogame story.

At the end of the day, plot development, narrative consistency and thematic writing are just minor components in the reality of AAA development, easily compromised for gameplay mechanics, project deadlines and marketing appeal even at Bioware. See also SWTOR and DA2.

The flash and spectacle of Mass Effect briefly blinded me to that reality; the ending controversy and Bioware's reaction to it brought it back.

It's a cool trilogy with good production values. It's about being awesome in space and having a motley band of characters applauding you for being awesome. Any investment beyond that leads to disappointment.

Modifié par Malchat, 20 août 2013 - 01:26 .

[Demigod]

In a way YES. I played me1 and 2 many times. I played 3 once. I try to keep Hemingway in mind "It is good to have an end to journey toward; but it is the journey that matters, in the end"

But for me the end of 3 casts out so much of the journey as to make it quite pointless. It could have been so much better but even the extended edition fails heartily. I would still buy another game if it were a sequel so I can see how they write themselves out of this mess ( which wouldn't be that hard considering how often they retcon and just ignore earlier points in me3 to begin with)
When the journey end is a travesty I don't wish to make that journey so for the first time since 2008 I don't have a Mass effect game installed on my computer and I cant see my self changing that until a sequel comes out. For me a prequel would be pointless only a sequel could save it.
I hope they do.

[Nashtalia]

i don't regret it and it's not a game to me it's my life, in honesty [i am being completely  serious]

Modifié par Nashtalia, 22 août 2013 - 10:12 .

[naes1984]

Irritations aside: No. When I survey how bland and bad the WRPG genre is ( JRPGs are almost all uniformly awful, "grindy" embarrassing and linear), I'm grateful that there is a Bioware attempting to create something interesting. I cannot spend 200 hours wandering aimlessly through a dull world like Skyrim or Dragon's Dogma or Kingdoms of Amalurr. Although, I have to admit: I haven't been able to get to play the Witcher series. And from what I've seen, I am really not excited for Dragon Age 3.

[MassPredator]

I start to read Lovercraft and other autors after playing this game (because references ej leviathan aka Cthulu), because of this game i found really great writters that i didn´t know. I can´t say i regret my involve with Mass Effect, just it doesn´t futfill my spectations (the ending is pathetic).

[MassPredator]

Vinchisters wrote...

My only regret is coming to the BSN every day to see 3 new ending/Mass Effect 3/ Bioware hate threads and getting mad about them every time.

Ending haters everywhere!!!!!!  :happy:

[Nashtalia]

MassPredator wrote...

Vinchisters wrote...

My only regret is coming to the BSN every day to see 3 new ending/Mass Effect 3/ Bioware hate threads and getting mad about them every time.

Ending haters everywhere!!!!!!  :happy:

and this would be the right time to quote the male human soldier enemies would say on ME1:

Enemies everywhere!

[Iakus]

naes1984 wrote...

Irritations aside: No. When I survey how bland and bad the WRPG genre is ( JRPGs are almost all uniformly awful, "grindy" embarrassing and linear), I'm grateful that there is a Bioware attempting to create something interesting. I cannot spend 200 hours wandering aimlessly through a dull world like Skyrim or Dragon's Dogma or Kingdoms of Amalurr. Although, I have to admit: I haven't been able to get to play the Witcher series. And from what I've seen, I am really not excited for Dragon Age 3.

I recommend trying out some of Bioware's earlier works.  Sadly, in the last couple of years, Bioware has lost that spark that made them special, and is rapidly becoming indistinguishible from any other action game out there.

[Phoenix_Also_Rises]

iakus wrote...

naes1984 wrote...

Irritations aside: No. When I survey how bland and bad the WRPG genre is ( JRPGs are almost all uniformly awful, "grindy" embarrassing and linear), I'm grateful that there is a Bioware attempting to create something interesting. I cannot spend 200 hours wandering aimlessly through a dull world like Skyrim or Dragon's Dogma or Kingdoms of Amalurr. Although, I have to admit: I haven't been able to get to play the Witcher series. And from what I've seen, I am really not excited for Dragon Age 3.

I recommend trying out some of Bioware's earlier works.  Sadly, in the last couple of years, Bioware has lost that spark that made them special, and is rapidly becoming indistinguishible from any other action game out there.

I would not go so far as to say that. ME3, although not perfect, was genuinely good, at least to me it was. It is the...Thing That Should Not Be Mentioned that ruined it all at the very end. And after ME3, I did try to find something similar to fill that gaping void where Mass Effect had been for so long and - I could not. What BioWare does, to me, is unlike anything else anybody else is doing. I do want to see more of it and I do want to see them keep producing titles like that, because the ME series is damn good and captivating, and I do not regret one bit I let it consume my life, but then...

The Thing That Should Not Be Named still exists.

Goddammit, it has been a long while since it happened - why does it still ****** me off so much?

[wildkeny]

I have both the PC and PS3 version. I don't regret a tiny bit for investing into the trilogy, but it could be better (downgrade of the leveling system in ME2&3, ending of ME3) I really like the leveling system of DA2 btw.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

I regret that it took me 5 years to realize that Tali'Zorah vas Normandy nar Raaya was the single most important character in the entire series. For without Tali, and by extension without the Quarians, Commander Shepard would have remained a nobody and the galaxy would have been reaped on schedule at the end of ME1. It was her evidence on Saren Arterius and Benezia, that could have been fabricated in her basement from sound clips, that was accepted as "irrefutable" by the Council and directly led to Shepard becoming the first Human Spectre, getting command of the Normandy SR-1. Had that not happened Shepard never would have defeated Saren and Sovereign at the Battle of the Citadel and Humanity never would have got a seat on the Council. So you Quarian and Tali killers should be ashamed of yourselves. Right or wrong, you and the galaxy owed the Quarians and Tali your lives.

That said, I regret nothing. I have moved on.

Modifié par sH0tgUn jUliA, 23 août 2013 - 08:03 .

[TheJusticeFist]

No, I don't regret getting invested in the Mass Effect series..

Of course, the games have their faults: Like the clunky Mako controls combined with the extremely pointy terrain in the first game, or the scanning mini game in the second, et cetera.

As for the endings, well, they certainly could have been more fleshed out, but I honestly don't have any *real* problems with them. If anything, the fact that the ME trilogy has reached it's conclusion makes me more upset than the actual endings, and I think that just goes to show how much I've enjoyed this series.

My favorite thing about the series though, are it's characters and how they develop over the course of the three ganes. Making those final goodbyes at the London FOB always pulls at a few heartstrings.

So, thanks BioWare, it's been a helluva ride.

[Redbelle]

I'll let you know once I've compared the experience of The Bureau to the last X-com experience to be offered.Because thus far I'm not donkey punching alien's to take them alive for dissection later as far as I can tell.......

..... and that disturbs me, in that I'm not feeling that XCOM vibe. They could have just removed the XCOM name altogether and sold it onthe grounds that it plays a bit like Mass Effect with a dash of BioShock and a healthy helping of cover shooting squad based management.

Still. Early days. There are some good points.... but thus far I miss reseaching and upgrading my own kit, over the find it on the field upgrade system they've got going.

And yes, this all allude's to how Mass Effect striped it's own mechanic's to leave us with just another cover shooter.

[Kel Riever]

OP: BSN was worth it, and so was multiplayer mode. ME1 and 2 were worth it, ME3 right up until the end was worth it. Yes the end is so aggravating after the EC I have purchased nothing EA or BioWare (including all that DLC). Nor have I played SP mode again. But they are my games that I purchased, and I plan to have fun with them in the future. Pull the plug after "The best seats in the house" line will be the plan if I play SP again, and though after the lack of updates, MP is not as much fun, it is still good enough to play and have fun with.

The game is yours. You don't need a BioWare anymore for it, so enjoy. Whether BioWare wants to come back and ever correct that ending, which they swear they won't, you can always change your mind.

MEU and believe it or not, now Fanfiction, have turned out to be well worth it.

Modifié par Kel Riever, 23 août 2013 - 10:30 .

[RedBindi]

I loved the Mass Effect series until the last 5-10 minutes of ME3, I've played the game once and have been unable to play it again. ME and ME2 also sit unplayed since the travesty of that ending. The response and reaction of Bioware sealed the end of the game for me as well.

[Iakus]

Yeah, I actually uninstalled the entire trilogy from my PC until I discovered MEHEM. I still haven't done a trilogy run in over a year. And Bioware's attitude about the whole thing only further demonstrated how dissconnected they have become.

[TuringPoint]

I never regretted my investment in the trilogy.

I look back and feel a little sad and nostalgic, and without any mystery to the ending (in part since the ending only considers numeric value of choices, which is wiped out because of my N7 multiplayer points) there is little reason to replay the series, even if I didn't have other games to play or other things to do in my freetime.

I fully expected for this not to be the case, all the way up to the ending.  I don't hate the ending like so many, but it was a bit of a loss.

Modifié par Alocormin, 24 août 2013 - 05:19 .

[FlamingBoy]

I regret it very seriously financially, it was deception of the worst possible kind.

However my love of mass effect 1 and 2 reminds me of what could have been, its just sad that there were people who loved the game more than the actual creators.

[shodiswe]

The ME3 endgame could have been better. BUT I don't regret playing themass effect series, it's oneof my favrites.

[cyrslash1974]

shodiswe wrote...

The ME3 endgame could have been better. BUT I don't regret playing themass effect series, it's oneof my favrites.

The same here. I dislike the ending, but the journey was (and is) awesome. No regret.

[suprhomre]

ME3's mulitplayer is one of the best thing that has happen to me I have met so many people I can now call friends so no regret whatsoever.

[JonathonPR]

Yes. In the first game I saw potential for a great scifi universe and unique branch of gameplay. They have yet to work on that potential. Its like what Charlton Heston's character felt like when (spoilers) he saw the Statue of Liberty at the end of the Planet of the Apes. "You Maniacs! You blew it up! Ah, damn you! God damn you all to hell!"

[Ieldra]

An interesting question, OP.

In the end, no, I don't regret it. Not because it has been and ended so great, but because it was a learning experience. There has been a degree of unhealthy obsession over the last few years, one which I probably won't let myself fall into again. I've also learned to trust my instincts when it comes to video game stories, and that it's no use hoping for the best if there already is evidence for the contrary (no, this is not about the ending).

There have been good moments, and bad moments. I appreciate the former and I hate the latter, and now....it's all over. I've acquired some emotional detachment, and that's very good, too because it lets me approach the next ME game with a less unhealthy mindset.

The one regret I have is that I didn't see early enough that Shepard was never intended to be my character in the end. Much depression and anger would've been avoided since I would've approached the story with a different mindset.

I expect DAI to be different in that after the Q&A at GamesCom yesterday, but even so, I will not get as invested again, and that's a very good thing. That's what I learned from ME3, and because of that I don't regret having been invested.

[Iakus]

Ieldra2 wrote...

The one regret I have is that I didn't see early enough that Shepard was never intended to be my character in the end. Much depression and anger would've been avoided since I would've approached the story with a different mindset.

The claims of "These are your Shepards" did kinda muddy that fact, huh?  

I expect DAI to be different in that after the Q&A at GamesCom yesterday, but even so, I will not get as invested again, and that's a very good thing. That's what I learned from ME3, and because of that I don't regret having been invested.

I don't know if DAI will be different or not, but I am hearing the same lines as I heard in the Mass Effect series:  "You are the Inquisitor"  "This is your story"  Wish I could believe that but, you know, Mass Effect.