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[Mister Mida]

Uhm... Cool story, bro?

[AlexXIV]

Flextt wrote...

Tietj wrote...

My biggest problem with ME1 was my absolute inability to create a male character that didn't look ridiculous. Possibly my own fault. Gameplay-wise, it's the weakest of the three but it succeeds more than the other two in creating a really fantastic, mysterious villain. The presentation of the story was better in the second but the plot, while well-written, was very static. Not too much actually happened, and very little of the main plot really affected much, in my opinion. And if I had to resolve one more father issue (mother in Samara's case) in a side quest... that was just silly.

You just ruined ....
Tali's loyality quest
Thane's loyalty quest
Miranda's loyalty quest
Jacob's loyalty quest
Samara's loyalty quest
for me. Thank you.

Don't forget Grunt. It's mostly about puberty, but his "father" is part of the problem.

[Dude_in_the_Room]

AlexXIV wrote...

Dude_in_the_Room wrote...

AlexXIV wrote...

This belongs to the ME1 forum. If you think you can elevate ME3 by bashing ME1, think again.

If you read the thread you would find that it's elevating ME2.

Just saying how far we've come.

THINK AGAIN!!!!!

ME3 Forum.Not ME1 or ME2. You're just trolling like in your other thread about how people who compain are just bored. Do you think you are so smart that nobody notices what you are doing here? Yeah, ME3 ending sucks. You can make 100 threads and change nothing about it.

You're very insightful.

If I was trolling then why did I

1) retract what I said in the IT thread - check it and check the times

2) tell GuardianAngel IN MY THREAD SO EVERYONE COULD SEE that I now understand where those ppl are coming from.

The only replies I trolled were the disrespectful ones to me.  Maybe you need to realize some ppl will speak their mind however sensitive b/c they have faith that somewhere along in the conversation someone with a brain will have respect and converse with them like a normal person would do.

I read 90% of the replies in this thread regardless if they were aggitated or not I enjoyed it.

[Doctoglethorpe]

I hardly even used the cover system in the first game.  No real need to.  If your taking damage you can just stand behind objects and accomplish the same thing without fighting against the games sticky borderline unfunctional cover mechanic. 

[AlexXIV]

Dude_in_the_Room wrote...

AlexXIV wrote...

Dude_in_the_Room wrote...

AlexXIV wrote...

This belongs to the ME1 forum. If you think you can elevate ME3 by bashing ME1, think again.

If you read the thread you would find that it's elevating ME2.

Just saying how far we've come.

THINK AGAIN!!!!!

ME3 Forum.Not ME1 or ME2. You're just trolling like in your other thread about how people who compain are just bored. Do you think you are so smart that nobody notices what you are doing here? Yeah, ME3 ending sucks. You can make 100 threads and change nothing about it.

You're very insightful.

If I was trolling then why did I

1) retract what I said in the IT thread - check it and check the times

2) tell GuardianAngel IN MY THREAD SO EVERYONE COULD SEE that I now understand where those ppl are coming from.

The only replies I trolled were the disrespectful ones to me.  Maybe you need to realize some ppl will speak their mind however sensitive b/c they have faith that somewhere along in the conversation someone with a brain will have respect and converse with them like a normal person would do.

I read 90% of the replies in this thread regardless if they were aggitated or not I enjoyed it.

Well I don't read all the replies. I spend too much time here to still read every thread or post. Because mostly it is the same shyte over and over. Anyway, glad you got your answers.

[Froswald]

My arse could've xoded better combat than the devs of ME1

But it'd take a helluva night and incredible clarity for me to come close to telling such a detailed tale


That, and the Vigil song is what sums up ME1 for me

[mirage2154]

I dont think you could say that when it just come out, dont compare ME1 to any of the ME game, it's the birth place of whole series. without ME1, you wont have flow combat at all, and ME2 would be just ME1 with another story(which is a lot sloppy that ME1).

[mirage2154]

Dude_in_the_Room wrote...

AlexXIV wrote...

Dude_in_the_Room wrote...

AlexXIV wrote...

This belongs to the ME1 forum. If you think you can elevate ME3 by bashing ME1, think again.

If you read the thread you would find that it's elevating ME2.

Just saying how far we've come.

THINK AGAIN!!!!!

ME3 Forum.Not ME1 or ME2. You're just trolling like in your other thread about how people who compain are just bored. Do you think you are so smart that nobody notices what you are doing here? Yeah, ME3 ending sucks. You can make 100 threads and change nothing about it.

You're very insightful.

If I was trolling then why did I

1) retract what I said in the IT thread - check it and check the times

2) tell GuardianAngel IN MY THREAD SO EVERYONE COULD SEE that I now understand where those ppl are coming from.

The only replies I trolled were the disrespectful ones to me.  Maybe you need to realize some ppl will speak their mind however sensitive b/c they have faith that somewhere along in the conversation someone with a brain will have respect and converse with them like a normal person would do.

I read 90% of the replies in this thread regardless if they were aggitated or not I enjoyed it.

I dont think that testing people's attitude would not actually agitate them. However, if you believe you have the right to do so,  it's your previlage to do it (not that other would like it ofcourse). I personally dont think that anyone can  blame people by not liking him/her.  Just a bit of common sense thought, no one likes people that demostrat thier "higher knowledge and intellegence". When you think you can judge others, dont blame people would judge you too, it's your prebilage as mush as their's.

Modifié par mirage2154, 01 mai 2012 - 09:50 .

[Flextt]

AlexXIV wrote...

Flextt wrote...

Tietj wrote...

My biggest problem with ME1 was my absolute inability to create a male character that didn't look ridiculous. Possibly my own fault. Gameplay-wise, it's the weakest of the three but it succeeds more than the other two in creating a really fantastic, mysterious villain. The presentation of the story was better in the second but the plot, while well-written, was very static. Not too much actually happened, and very little of the main plot really affected much, in my opinion. And if I had to resolve one more father issue (mother in Samara's case) in a side quest... that was just silly.

You just ruined ....
Tali's loyality quest
Thane's loyalty quest
Miranda's loyalty quest
Jacob's loyalty quest
Samara's loyalty quest
for me. Thank you.

Don't forget Grunt. It's mostly about puberty, but his "father" is part of the problem.

Yeah I considered it, but at least the Krogan coming-of-age is flashy and involves giant worms from outer space.

[TookYoCookies]

I loved ME1, and i sniped. Why get in cover in the first place? Shep was OP in ME1, and i thought the conversation system was wayyy more immersive because you had alot more options/input into sheperds dialogue than the other 2 games. I'd go back and play it again, but, not while ME3 still sucks.

[Catroi]

KingKhan03 wrote...

yeah the combat does really blow but I think people enjoy the RPG side more and the combat just becomes bearable.

^this

[Fingertrip]

ME3 is the best out of all three. ME1 being the worst (Yet, it is STILL a really good game tho, derp) ME2 is just ... combat :[

[sistersafetypin]

moater boat wrote...

I guess it comes down to whether you play an RPG for the story or for the gameplay. To me it is a no-brainer, but some people need to get their button mashing fix.

[Eain]

I'll take clunky combat and low res textures over ME3's hollywood spectacle any day if it means no autodialogue and an actual say in things.

[Deaddude221]

I had the same exact feeling I went back and starting playing ME1 to do a whole different build and then just couldn't do it the game play is too clunky ... I guess I have been spoiled with 2 and 3 lol. But the genesis works just fine haha. As for combat I think ME3 perfected it but certainly ME1 & 2 had the better dialogue setup ... ME3 was just lacking with the options, sure you could as more questions but there was too much auto dialogue and it pissed me off that there were almost never any neutral options (which were almost always renegade options but with less of a douche bag reply)

[Fingertrip]

Eain wrote...

I'll take clunky combat and low res textures over ME3's hollywood spectacle any day if it means no autodialogue and an actual say in things.

Choices didn't matter in ME1, and there was like 1 ending to the game.

Yep, defo the better game. Opinions aside.

[TookYoCookies]

Fingertrip wrote...

ME3 is the best out of all three. ME1 being the worst (Yet, it is STILL a really good game tho, derp) ME2 is just ... combat :[

 

Nah bro ME3 sucks. 

Fingertrip wrote...

Eain wrote...

I'll take clunky combat and low res textures over ME3's hollywood spectacle any day if it means no autodialogue and an actual say in things.

Choices didn't matter in ME1, and there was like 1 ending to the game.

Yep, defo the better game. Opinions aside. [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/policeman.png[/smilie]

  

Choices didnt matter? Grunts armor quest? saving/killing council? Even putting Wrex/Garrus on your ship? did my sarcasm radar break? Or you just pro-ending trolling?

Modifié par TookYoCookies, 01 mai 2012 - 10:38 .

[daecath]

ME1 had a much better story, much deeper rpg, and I liked the combat. Yeah, there were some things about it that I didn't like (Mako, I'm looking at you). But I'm not a fan of FPS, so the level of combat was fine with me. It may not be as polished graphically or mechanically as the others, but in terms of story and choice, there's no question. And since that's why I play, ME1 is definitely my favorite.

[SimonTheFrog]

I loved the ME1 atmosphere. It was a galaxy to explore right there. Full of weird and ancient things. And some areas, like Noveria, were so amazingly complex. I played through the game 10 times and still managed to go through slightly different routes there.
Yes, the combat did improve with the second but at a too high cost. I loved the personal stories, they were mostly very well written dramas. But the overall arc was terrible (I don't want to go through the reasons here, I did that back then in the ME2 forums ) and the focus on assembling a team, only to be able to kill all of them off a couple of hours later was a very strange design decision for the middle part of a trilogy. 
ME3 creates a very good war atmosphere. But 80% of the game has no complexity at all, with two runs i've pretty much seen all of it (the exception being the famous tuchanka and rannoch, obviously) and generally it feels like a solid action game... but there is nothing left of the epicness and mystery of ME1.
I wished the trilogy would have gone better and better instead of from awesome to generally ok.

 

Modifié par SimonTheFrog, 01 mai 2012 - 10:42 .

[Mcfly616]

Funny....I started replaying the entire trilogy two weeks ago....just finished it all up again yesterday....and after going back, it just reaffirmed my belief that ME1 is by far the best overall game in the series....

Guess its just in the eye of the beholder...

[AlexXIV]

Mcfly616 wrote...

Funny....I started replaying the entire trilogy two weeks ago....just finished it all up again yesterday....and after going back, it just reaffirmed my belief that ME1 is by far the best overall game in the series....

Guess its just in the eye of the beholder...

Well technically it is objectively not the best. It has too many shortcommings in gameplay. Story and atmosphere ... is great, and depending on personal taste argueably best in the series.

[Mcfly616]

ME1 had a more immersive world, a better story, better pacing, better music, more conversation options, best boss battle, best music

And yes I even liked the Mako.....I don't understand all the hate for the Mako really....

[AlexXIV]

Mcfly616 wrote...

ME1 had a more immersive world, a better story, better pacing, better music, more conversation options, best boss battle, best music

And yes I even liked the Mako.....I don't understand all the hate for the Mako really....

It was a pain to control in some places. Too much jumping. If they had made it a bit more realistic and probably a bit more skill to manuver and in combat it would have been great. Honestly, combat with the mako was mostly cheating. Hide in cover, get out of cover, shoot, get back in cover. Just a matter of time to take all enemies down, not skill. Ecept maybe taking down thresher maws but you needed to save game anyway because of its one-shoting the mako from time to time.

Modifié par AlexXIV, 01 mai 2012 - 10:50 .

[Asharad Hett]

I liked that you could spend hours selecting and shopping for the right equipment.

I liked solving puzzles to open doors.

I liked exploring ugly treeless terrain in the Mako.

I liked that it was easy to die and that you had to work to survive.

I liked that weapons could overheat if you spammed the ammo.

I liked the exploration of the Citadel, and all it's wasted space.

I enjoyed exploring conversations, hearing the phrases repeated as you try to puzzle out what each character is hiding. This was a key part of KOTOR and KOTOR2, as well.  Coversations were intended to be puzzles in ME1.

And if you are going to bash the "cover" mechanism in ME1, let me bash the "OMG I WANTED TO RUN NOT COVER" mechanism in ME3.

Modifié par Asharad Hett, 01 mai 2012 - 10:53 .