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[JamesT91]

ME1- only game in the trilogy that is a true RPG
2- Decent game, worth playing once but too many RPG features were removed so its still a step down from 1
3- isnt an RPG its a sci fi shooter, with pretty much everything that made ME so great removed

[ComfortablyNumb]

I have to agree, gameplay-wise. But when you look at the story, ME1 wins for me every time.
And I only recently noticed, that running looks so much better in ME1 than ME3. Especially for femShep. It's actually difficult for me to stand in ME3. She moves like she was in high heels, trying to catch a bus - wth??

[Gruzmog]

femshep moves like she does in the dream sequences only sped up a bit. Basicly all movement in ME3 were you are not carrying a gun looks kind of goofy, but the story compensates in the first half of the game

[Laurencio]

Dude_in_the_Room wrote...

I mean, theres so many things that are just wrong and don't flow. 

I could be on the edge of cover and sometimes I can't repeatedly shoot.

Half the time when I choose a conversation choice theres an uneasy pause between when the NPC finsishes talking and when I begin.  It seems so non organic.

Whenever I go to cover thats waist high, Shephard just stand there against it instead of crouching.  I know some will say "WELL GOD!!!....do you want the game to play for you too!!!"  But the fact is anyone with a decent mental capacity would duck appropriately.  I wouldn't think about it in life why would a soldier go "O, hai, I'm getting shot...guess I should duck" >then hit the default button to duck.

Some of the conversations aren't organic either.  It's basically NPC asks a question and the different choices start off like a completely new conversation that someone started.  It's seems sooo odd.


The scale of ME1 is still there and I the RPG elements are better.  But anyone who chooses ME1 over ME2 or ME3.....I dunno....I don't even think it's a matter of opinion.  These things in ME1 are not objective.

Nostalgia. I've played it twice since ME3 came out and I can not fathom how I tolerated the MAKO.

[ComfortablyNumb]

Gruzmog wrote...

femshep moves like she does in the dream sequences only sped up a bit. Basicly all movement in ME3 were you are not carrying a gun looks kind of goofy, but the story compensates in the first half of the game

Not for me. Too much running around the Citadel

[ComfortablyNumb]

Laurencio wrote...

Nostalgia. I've played it twice since ME3 came out and I can not fathom how I tolerated the MAKO.

I take Mako over Hammerhead every time!

On a related note - when I replayed ME2, I kept wondering why my shuttle is so quiet and where is my pilot

[Shajar]

mrufka_z wrote...

I have to agree, gameplay-wise. But when you look at the story, ME1 wins for me every time.
And I only recently noticed, that running looks so much better in ME1 than ME3. Especially for femShep. It's actually difficult for me to stand in ME3. She moves like she was in high heels, trying to catch a bus - wth??

male Shepard running is best in ME2, in ME1 male Shepard running looks bit girlish running

Modifié par Shajar, 02 mai 2012 - 10:08 .

[yoomazir]

Lulz, there are still people praising ME2? They must have loved those awesome planet scanning moments, those linear tunnel/corridors missions, the retcon of the Protheans backstory and the "ammo" for weapons, the removal of real exploration, small hubs, the dirty dozen in space subpar story and the complete negation of the previous game scenario.

ME2 was mostly trash and so is ME3, can't wait to see the next Mass Effect game turning into an FPS, the COD audience will be pleased.

Modifié par yoomazir, 02 mai 2012 - 10:07 .

[Shajar]

yoomazir wrote...

Lulz, there are still people praising ME2? They must have loved those awesome planet scanning moments, those linear tunnel/corridors missions, the retcon of the Protheans backstory and the "ammo" for weapons, the removal of real exploration, small hubs, the dirty dozen in space subpar story and the complete negation of the previous game scenario.

ME2 was mostly trash and so is ME3, can't wait to see the next Mass Effect game turning into an FPS, the COD audience will be pleased.

Tali was LI in ME2, you should not be so hateful on ME 2 

[yoomazir]

Shajar wrote...

yoomazir wrote...

Lulz, there are still people praising ME2? They must have loved those awesome planet scanning moments, those linear tunnel/corridors missions, the retcon of the Protheans backstory and the "ammo" for weapons, the removal of real exploration, small hubs, the dirty dozen in space subpar story and the complete negation of the previous game scenario.

ME2 was mostly trash and so is ME3, can't wait to see the next Mass Effect game turning into an FPS, the COD audience will be pleased.

Tali was LI in ME2, you should not be so hateful on ME 2 

Thus, the "mostly" word included

[ComfortablyNumb]

Shajar wrote...

Tali was LI in ME2, you should not be so hateful on ME 2 

And more importantly - Garrus!

[onchristieroad]

Just finished ME1, and on to ME2. Sure, it was clunky, some of the VA was godawful (some of them got better as they went on) and I was chucking grenades around trying to reload, but I'll always love it.

[Eire Icon]

Mass Effect is quite simply an awesome game. It has stood the test of time and has to go down as an absolute classic

[s17tabris]

mrufka_z wrote...

I have to agree, gameplay-wise. But when you look at the story, ME1 wins for me every time.
And I only recently noticed, that running looks so much better in ME1 than ME3. Especially for femShep. It's actually difficult for me to stand in ME3. She moves like she was in high heels, trying to catch a bus - wth??

Yep, running animation was the best in ME1.  I hate the running animation in ME3, especially in the nightmare sequences where I can't use the spacebar to do the faster running animation, which still looks weird but is less annoying.

[azerSheppard]

ME1, Insanity, newgame.
DO ET NAW, good times

[DevilBeast]

Four reasons why I like ME1:

1. Wrex

2. Playing as an adept I actually liked that your powers recharged individually instead of all at once.
I loved how at higher levels I barely even had to use my pistol.

3. Saren (best villain in ME)

and

4. Wrex in an elevator

[Baihu1983]

1 feels like a product of love, 2 and 3 a cash cow.

[Aaleel]

I just finished ME1 last weekend for the I don't even know the count number.

The story is by far the best, I loved the Mako and the exploration. Loved the characters, loved the well written antagonists.

One of my all time top 5 games, played it far more times than the following two combined.

[IUDEX99]

[...]Whenever I go to cover thats waist high, Shephard just stand there against it instead of crouching.  I know some will say "WELL GOD!!!....do you want the game to play for you too!!!" [...]

I don't wanna be a smartass, BUT:

Did you play the "tutorial" i.e. the first mission on Eden Prime?

Crouching behind cover does not happen automatically in ME.

Try <left ctrl> and ......crouching.

Helps when using a sniper rifle as well, accuracy is increased.

[Brockxz]

^ That just shows this generations gamers who can't even follow simple tutorials. Sad, very sad. Well, that's one of the reasons bioware and most of other developers mainsttream everything and make one button does everything  games. I really love ME1 for what it is and actually would love to see Bioware to go back to it's roots and make complex RPG games and not those ME2, ME3 and DA2 games they made. Yes, story was still good, some gameplay elements are good but overall experience in ME1 or in any other older Bioware games are far better than in those last three games.

Modifié par Brockxz, 02 mai 2012 - 12:21 .

[IUDEX99]

Krunjar wrote...
I really get annoyed at people who point out stuff they don't like and call it a Deas Ex Machina. This is speculative Sci Fi EVERYTHING is a damn deus ex. And no one ever complained before because it didn't challenge their preconceptions.

Obviously the is a problem with nomenclatura (terminology?).

Not eveything is a DEM.
The literarily figure of DEM refers to a completely enexpected person, event, occurance that resolves a problem in a story. Originally it was used in antique greek pieces and there actually the gods intervened. Which is explainable due to the fact that in the greek mythology the gods very often influenced the life of the people directly.
Mostly the DEM appeared twice. At the first point the god(s) effected the life of the people in a specific way and so the baseplot of the story came up. And later the same god (or his antagonist) solved the problem.

Keeping in mind that someone unexpected is influencing or completely changing a story, it depends on the audience how "hard they get hit" by the DEM. In wetsren movies often the cavalry appears to save the settler from bandits/indians or whatever. This is not completely unexpected because the audience does know that the cavalry exists and somehow maybe expects their appearance.

The use of DEM in ME3 is very different. Neither there was noticable hint to the catalyst in ME3 (and the previous games) nor did someone like the catalyst did set the basic plot for all the happenings in the series.
The catalyst as a DEM really is completely unforseeable (unpredictable?) and in addition it's motives do not fit with that what people learned about his minions in the prevoius games.
The fact that Sovereign mentioned something like that the motives of the reapers would be beyond the comprehension of human beings is one example.
And now we deal with the DEM and his motives are very simple and definitly not beyond everyones comprehension.

To come back to your statement: No, not eveything in the game is a DEM and nobody had a reason to complain.
Complaning about the the incoharent use of the Catalyst as a DEM in ME3 is a complete different thing.


Cheers

Dex

[Mr. Big Pimpin]

I've never understood why people love the first game the most. The side quests were tedious and repetitive (and comprised about half the game), the combat was weak, and the squad was fairly uninteresting, with at least half of all their dialogue being boring exposition. It also had the broken inventory system.

Not that I didn't still like it, of course, but it was exceeded by ME2 in just about every way except for the main plot.

[bpzrn]

ME2 was the best.

[Mathias]

Dude_in_the_Room wrote...


The scale of ME1 is still there and I the RPG elements are better.  But anyone who chooses ME1 over ME2 or ME3.....I dunno....I don't even think it's a matter of opinion.  These things in ME1 are not objective.

So are you implying that people who like ME1 the most are stupid?

Modifié par Mdoggy1214, 02 mai 2012 - 12:57 .

[survivor_686]

ME1 when compared to the rest of the series lacks polish and some flow.

In terms of gameplay, voice acting, graphics, weapon diversity the series has really improved.