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[o Revan x]

Spectre, Silver weapons are mostly crap, sure, there are some gems like Phalanx, Phaeston etc, but in spectre you can draw Widow

[Uchimura]

I agree with Revan. Sooner or later you're going to max out silver and gold anyway, but those extra spectre packs you rolled instead of vets will have brought you closer to more ultra rares.

[Godwhacker]

My Salarian Engineer is very happy with the Raptor... but that doesn't mean you should go for Veteran packs. The last upgrade I got for it was in a Spectre pack.

Essentially, if you're desperate for new stuff, farm Firebase White on Gold against Geth and go for Spectre packs.

[KentGoldings]

Funny thing is, most of the rare are crappy as well.

[NM_Che56]

Biotic_Warlock wrote...

Mattock is "uncommon"? I haven't even gotten I.

It's my favorite weapon! 

[gaminazn]

In my opinion, you are better off just buying spectre packs. Forget Recruit & Veteran & Equipment packs. The chance for an uncommon with a spectre pack is pretty good, and the commons you receive are usually weapons, mods, or equipment (I've rarely seen a character card). That said, spectre packs are damn expensive if you don't play gold.

There is no silver or common weapon I would recommend over the gold weapon version, even if the silver was 10 and the gold was 1. (Mattock has no gold version, nor does the Raptor) Unfortunately, the mods are common & uncommon.

[alchemysol]

I basically tried to max out my items in order of rarity. First common, then uncommon, and now I have only rare and ultra rare items left. Generally in spectre packs you get 1 rare and 1 uncommon and the rest are consumables/equipment. I have gotten maybe 5-7 rares out of maybe 100 veteran packs. and 7 ultra rares from maybe 30 PSPs.

Anyway I would just go in order just to get it out of your way.

[TheKingBoar]

Brettic wrote...

Torguemada wrote...

TheKingBoar wrote...

I'm going to completely disagree and say you should only buy the lowest level pack for the rarity that you haven't maxxed out yet. Specter packs are a waste since you're spending 60k credits and could end up with things you could have gotten for 20k. I generally stick with recruit still and have gotten no less than 5 golds out of them anyways. Esp since the uncommon weapons are generally just as decent as the gold ones.

Considering that having a rarity maxed seems to mean that every weapon of that rarity you would have gotten is replaced with a character cards, spamming slow level packs until you max out a rarity just means that once you get up to spectre packs you get almost nothing but character cards, so i would say going straight to spectre pack is a million times better idea.

it really is, even at level 1 those gold weapons are better than any of ur crappy common and uncommon X level weapons.

Uh, that's competely untrue, especially for certain weapon classes. Gold assault rifles blow, Mattock and Vindicator blow them out of the water. For players who aren't the best shots, Phalanx > Carnifex. Plus with Spectre, you risk getting an arc pistol or GPR. I'll give you GPS though. Tempest and Locust beat out the plasma smg any day anyways. A good portion of the other golds (Revenant, Graal, Falcon specifically come to mind) are situational use only for the average player anyways.

Better to do spectre until you get the gun you want to use, then switch to veteran until you fill out some of the common/uncommon tiers. I may have hitten the jackpot with the RNG, but as I've been filling out uncommons, I don't seem to get too many character cards.

[YuenglingDragon]

I've been saving mostly lately. Premium Specter Packs are the best buy so I've been buying a Veteran Pack after each Gold or Silver match or two bronzes and saving up the balance. I've not been playing much but I still have a half million creds saved after a week of this. If the Premium Packs are back this week, that means I'll have leveled up some uncommons and now have more chances than I would otherwise at rares and ultra-rares.

[xsmiv]

In case it helps, here's what I've experienced:

For every 60,000 credits spent on 3 Veteran packs, I have received ~2 uncommon (silver) weapons.
For every 60,000 credits spent on 3 Veteran packs, I have received ~0.2 rare (gold) weapons.

For every 60,000 credits spent on 1 Spectre pack, I have received ~0.3 uncommon (silver) weapons.
For every 60,000 credits spent on 1 Spectre pack, I have received ~0.7 rare (gold) weapons.

If you're interested in quickly leveling up some of your silver weapons, Veteran packs are clearly the way to go.  If you're after gold or ultra-rare weapons, you should probably buy Spectre packs.

[orderlyrandom]

Be patient. Buy out Recruit before Veteran, Veteran before Spectre. It's an awful feeling to get an Avenger III with a Schmitar II in a premium spectre pack.

I'm N360. All V mods, all X guns except ultra rare. I have better gears than a lot of N>1000. All I did was systematically buying out recruits, veterans, spectre. Shrink the pool. Get most out of every credit. I didn't touch anything premium during that process.

[Loladan79]

Biotic_Warlock wrote...

Mattock is "uncommon"? I haven't even gotten I.

It's funny you says this.  I have things like BW 1 and Claymore 4 and have yet to get the "uncommon" Eviscerator.

[twxabfn]

Consider it this way - if you have 60000 credits, you can buy 12 Recruit packs, 3 Veteran packs, or 1 Spectre pack. Here are your most likely scenarios:

- In those 12 Recruit packs, you'll get 2 consumable cards with 1 each (24 total), 1 or 2 level I equipment cards (12-24 total), and 1 or 2 Common weapon/mod/character cards (12-24 total), with a small chance for an Uncommon and a smaller chance for a Rare.

- In those 3 Veteran packs, you'll get 2 consumable cards with 3 each (18 total), 2 level II equipment cards (6 total), and 1 Uncommon card (3 total), with a small chance for a Rare.

- In that 1 Spectre pack, you'll get 2 consumable cards with 5 each (10 total), 1 or 2 level III equipment cards, 1 or 2 Uncommon cards, and 1 Rare card, with a small chance for an Ultra-Rare.

So it really all depends on what you want (consumables, mods, uncommons, rares, or ultras?). To get the most use out of your credits, do what orderlyrandom said - buy Recruits until you max out your starter weapons and most of the common mods, then move on to Vet until you get most of the way on the uncommons, then switch to Spectre. Not only will you unlock all the guns so that you can try them all and see which ones *you* like playing with, but you'll also build up a good base of consumables and equipment too.

Modifié par twxabfn, 01 mai 2012 - 09:07 .

[Sakaja]

twxabfn wrote...

Consider it this way - if you have 60000 credits, you can buy 12 Recruit packs, 3 Veteran packs, or 1 Spectre pack. Here are your most likely scenarios:

- In those 12 Recruit packs, you'll get 2 consumable cards with 1 each (24 total), 1 or 2 level I equipment cards (12-24 total), and 1 or 2 Common weapon/mod/character cards (12-24 total), with a small chance for an Uncommon and a smaller chance for a Rare.

- In those 3 Veteran packs, you'll get 2 consumable cards with 3 each (18 total), 2 level II equipment cards (6 total), and 1 Uncommon card (3 total), with a small chance for a Rare.

- In that 1 Spectre pack, you'll get 2 consumable cards with 5 each (10 total), 1 or 2 level III equipment cards, 1 or 2 Uncommon cards, and 1 Rare card, with a small chance for an Ultra-Rare.

So it really all depends on what you want (consumables, mods, uncommons, rares, or ultras?). To get the most use out of your credits, do what orderlyrandom said - buy Recruits until you max out your starter weapons and most of the common mods, then move on to Vet until you get most of the way on the uncommons, then switch to Spectre. Not only will you unlock all the guns so that you can try them all and see which ones *you* like playing with, but you'll also build up a good base of consumables and equipment too.

Let's assume you have all Common and Uncommon mods at V, and all Common and Uncommon weapons at X.  Does buying the Spectre pack then turn those 1 or 2 Uncommon card" into Rare?  Or does it simply get converted into a useless Uncommon character card?

If you get Uncommon cards replaced by Rare by having everything maxed, then yes, progressing from Recruite to Veteran to Spectre packs makes the most sense - most bang or the buck.  However, if your chance of Rare doesn't increase, and you simply get useless Uncommon character cards instead of Uncommon weapon/mods, then it's actually more efficient to focus on the Spectre and skip the lower levels, as you'll automatically get the lower levels as you collect the Rare/Ultra-rare.

I've assumed that you get useless character cards once weapons/mods are maxed, so I focused solely on Spectre packs (except when I needed consumables).  The only reason to buy veteran is if the weapon you are using is underpowered for Gold and you want to level it faster.

I hope someone who has everything Uncommon and below at X chimes in on what you get with Spectre packs after that.

[BoomDynamite]

Spectres!

[Brettic]

Sakaja wrote...

twxabfn wrote...

Consider it this way - if you have 60000 credits, you can buy 12 Recruit packs, 3 Veteran packs, or 1 Spectre pack. Here are your most likely scenarios:

- In those 12 Recruit packs, you'll get 2 consumable cards with 1 each (24 total), 1 or 2 level I equipment cards (12-24 total), and 1 or 2 Common weapon/mod/character cards (12-24 total), with a small chance for an Uncommon and a smaller chance for a Rare.

- In those 3 Veteran packs, you'll get 2 consumable cards with 3 each (18 total), 2 level II equipment cards (6 total), and 1 Uncommon card (3 total), with a small chance for a Rare.

- In that 1 Spectre pack, you'll get 2 consumable cards with 5 each (10 total), 1 or 2 level III equipment cards, 1 or 2 Uncommon cards, and 1 Rare card, with a small chance for an Ultra-Rare.

So it really all depends on what you want (consumables, mods, uncommons, rares, or ultras?). To get the most use out of your credits, do what orderlyrandom said - buy Recruits until you max out your starter weapons and most of the common mods, then move on to Vet until you get most of the way on the uncommons, then switch to Spectre. Not only will you unlock all the guns so that you can try them all and see which ones *you* like playing with, but you'll also build up a good base of consumables and equipment too.

Let's assume you have all Common and Uncommon mods at V, and all Common and Uncommon weapons at X.  Does buying the Spectre pack then turn those 1 or 2 Uncommon card" into Rare?  Or does it simply get converted into a useless Uncommon character card?

If you get Uncommon cards replaced by Rare by having everything maxed, then yes, progressing from Recruite to Veteran to Spectre packs makes the most sense - most bang or the buck.  However, if your chance of Rare doesn't increase, and you simply get useless Uncommon character cards instead of Uncommon weapon/mods, then it's actually more efficient to focus on the Spectre and skip the lower levels, as you'll automatically get the lower levels as you collect the Rare/Ultra-rare.

I've assumed that you get useless character cards once weapons/mods are maxed, so I focused solely on Spectre packs (except when I needed consumables).  The only reason to buy veteran is if the weapon you are using is underpowered for Gold and you want to level it faster.

I hope someone who has everything Uncommon and below at X chimes in on what you get with Spectre packs after that.

the way it works is when you max a weapon or a mod, the next time you would have pulled that item out of a pack it just gets replaced with a random character card, so maxing your uncommon and common weapons will not increase your chances of getting rare ones at all.

The common weapons are not worth maxing, they only incidentally get maxed when trying to max the common mods.

Most uncommon weapons are not worth maxing either, but some can shine in certain playstyles and specs, Phaeston has some good builds for it, so does the mattock. but unless you need a particular uncommon weapon for your build, they are not worth trying to get, you only incidentally get them trying to max your uncommon weapon mods.

Gold weapons are where most of the best weapons are, widow for snipers, graal or gps are two of the best shotguns in the game, revenant is an amazing assault rifle and i personally use it for my human soldier build, it works much better than a mattock or a phaeston for my build. Carnifex is the best pistol for many builds.

Black weapons are some of the best in slot weapons period, javelin and black widow for snipers, paladin is amazing for engineers and many other builds, the talon is godly for vanguards, etc.

It's very rare and situational that an uncommon or common weapon would be a better choice than a gold or black, and as such, unless you are playing a build that's best weapon is a common/uncommon, you should always spend the money you gain buying spectre packs or premium spectre packs if they are available until you get a good base of gold and black weapons. once you get the ones you want to a fairly decent level, and as such are finally racking in the credits in silver or gold, you can start spending credits on recruit and veteran packs mostly just to fill out the weapon mods, since your weapon mods will be lacking in levels if you are only getting them from PSP's and SP's.

That is simply the most economical way to do it.

Modifié par Brettic, 01 mai 2012 - 11:16 .

[Sakaja]

Brettic wrote...

the way it works is when you max a weapon or a mod, the next time you would have pulled that item out of a pack it just gets replaced with a random character card, so maxing your uncommon and common weapons will not increase your chances of getting rare ones at all.

Thank you - I thought so, based on my experience with Recruite packs.  I'll continue to just focus on Spectre, and skip veteran.