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[Elyiia]

Ieldra2 wrote...

Elyiia wrote...
Yeah, if you say you're still together then cheat on her she stays alive which is crazy. So much for consequences for cheating on your LI.

Bad programming, rather. I don't really mind, since she gets singled out for a break-up death, and the list of her survival conditions is longer than anyone else's. Someone on the team must've wanted her dead badly. Still, she got a better deal than Thane or Jacob. 

Kelly gets the same treatment, there's about five different ways for her to die as well.

But it would have been nice for Bioware to actually keep their promise that cheating on a LI would have serious consequences.

[Ieldra]

Elyiia wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

Elyiia wrote...
Yeah, if you say you're still together then cheat on her she stays alive which is crazy. So much for consequences for cheating on your LI.

Bad programming, rather. I don't really mind, since she gets singled out for a break-up death, and the list of her survival conditions is longer than anyone else's. Someone on the team must've wanted her dead badly. Still, she got a better deal than Thane or Jacob. 

Kelly gets the same treatment, there's about five different ways for her to die as well.

But it would have been nice for Bioware to actually keep their promise that cheating on a LI would have serious consequences.

Death is a rather drastic consequence for a breakup. And any consequences should apply to the ME1 LIs as well. Cheated on Ashley in ME2? Consequence: you can't convince her in the Citadel coup. Things were planned that way originally if the leaked script is any indication. Then I'd be ok with Miranda's scenario. I just don't like one character singled out for the "break-up=death" scenario.

As for Kelly - I never took her seriously as a romance option in ME2, so I feel she doesn't count. But how many survival conditions does she have? I know only of one: make her change her identity.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 02 mai 2012 - 12:42 .

[Elyiia]

Ieldra2 wrote...

Elyiia wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

Elyiia wrote...
Yeah, if you say you're still together then cheat on her she stays alive which is crazy. So much for consequences for cheating on your LI.

Bad programming, rather. I don't really mind, since she gets singled out for a break-up death, and the list of her survival conditions is longer than anyone else's. Someone on the team must've wanted her dead badly. Still, she got a better deal than Thane or Jacob. 

Kelly gets the same treatment, there's about five different ways for her to die as well.

But it would have been nice for Bioware to actually keep their promise that cheating on a LI would have serious consequences.

Death is a rather drastic consequence for a breakup. And any consequences should apply to the ME1 LIs as well. Cheated on Ashley in ME2? Consequence: you can't convince her in the Citadel coup. Things were planned that way originally if the leaked script is any indication. Then I'd be ok with Miranda's scenario. I just don't like one character singled out for the "break-up=death" scenario.

As for Kelly - I never took her seriously as a romance option in ME2, so I feel she doesn't count. But how many survival conditions does she have? I know only of one: make her change her identity.

I fully support that, there should be consquences for all LIs, not just Miranda.

And Kelly isn't survival conditions but rather oppertunities for her to die.

[nitefyre410]

Ieldra2 wrote...

Elyiia wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

Elyiia wrote...
Yeah, if you say you're still together then cheat on her she stays alive which is crazy. So much for consequences for cheating on your LI.

Bad programming, rather. I don't really mind, since she gets singled out for a break-up death, and the list of her survival conditions is longer than anyone else's. Someone on the team must've wanted her dead badly. Still, she got a better deal than Thane or Jacob. 

Kelly gets the same treatment, there's about five different ways for her to die as well.

But it would have been nice for Bioware to actually keep their promise that cheating on a LI would have serious consequences.

Death is a rather drastic consequence for a breakup. And any consequences should apply to the ME1 LIs as well. Cheated on Ashley in ME2? Consequence: you can't convince her in the Citadel coup. Things were planned that way originally if the leaked script is any indication. Then I'd be ok with Miranda's scenario. I just don't like one character singled out for the "break-up=death" scenario.

As for Kelly - I never took her seriously as a romance option in ME2, so I feel she doesn't count. But how many survival conditions does she have? I know only of one: make her change her identity.

 


That right there  would have been the stupidest most childish piece of writing every and complete  murder the hypotenuse by handing them not just the Idoit Ball  but complete and utter  idot ball for the sake of  DRAAMMMMAAA 

I'm rather glad they did not do that... these are  supposed to be adults not  13 yr old middle schoolers. 

[Merchant2006]

I used her for dat assssssssssssssssssssss hnnnng ohhh yehhhhhhhhhh hella gud butchekkk tbh

Miri doesn't have any feelings or layers, just extra butt beneath the butt.

Modifié par Merchant2006, 02 mai 2012 - 12:57 .

[Shajar]

Unholyknight800 wrote...

No because I always do the Tali romance subplot.

[Ieldra]

nitefyre410 wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

Death is a rather drastic consequence for a breakup. And any consequences should apply to the ME1 LIs as well. Cheated on Ashley in ME2? Consequence: you can't convince her in the Citadel coup. Things were planned that way originally if the leaked script is any indication. Then I'd be ok with Miranda's scenario. I just don't like one character singled out for the "break-up=death" scenario.

As for Kelly - I never took her seriously as a romance option in ME2, so I feel she doesn't count. But how many survival conditions does she have? I know only of one: make her change her identity.

 

That right there  would have been the stupidest most childish piece of writing every and complete  murder the hypotenuse by handing them not just the Idoit Ball  but complete and utter  idot ball for the sake of  DRAAMMMMAAA 

I'm rather glad they did not do that... these are  supposed to be adults not  13 yr old middle schoolers. 

If that's idiotic, then so is Miranda's "break-up=death". In both cases, it's a matter of trust. And trust is, in the end, always personal.

[Ahms]

Ieldra2 wrote...

Elyiia wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

Elyiia wrote...
Yeah, if you say you're still together then cheat on her she stays alive which is crazy. So much for consequences for cheating on your LI.

Bad programming, rather. I don't really mind, since she gets singled out for a break-up death, and the list of her survival conditions is longer than anyone else's. Someone on the team must've wanted her dead badly. Still, she got a better deal than Thane or Jacob. 

Kelly gets the same treatment, there's about five different ways for her to die as well.

But it would have been nice for Bioware to actually keep their promise that cheating on a LI would have serious consequences.

Death is a rather drastic consequence for a breakup. And any consequences should apply to the ME1 LIs as well. Cheated on Ashley in ME2? Consequence: you can't convince her in the Citadel coup. Things were planned that way originally if the leaked script is any indication. Then I'd be ok with Miranda's scenario. I just don't like one character singled out for the "break-up=death" scenario.

As for Kelly - I never took her seriously as a romance option in ME2, so I feel she doesn't count. But how many survival conditions does she have? I know only of one: make her change her identity.

You know, there's a few beak-ups I wish had ended up that way for me.... Yeah, it's harsh, so what?

[nitefyre410]

Ieldra2 wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

Death is a rather drastic consequence for a breakup. And any consequences should apply to the ME1 LIs as well. Cheated on Ashley in ME2? Consequence: you can't convince her in the Citadel coup. Things were planned that way originally if the leaked script is any indication. Then I'd be ok with Miranda's scenario. I just don't like one character singled out for the "break-up=death" scenario.

As for Kelly - I never took her seriously as a romance option in ME2, so I feel she doesn't count. But how many survival conditions does she have? I know only of one: make her change her identity.

 

That right there  would have been the stupidest most childish piece of writing every and complete  murder the hypotenuse by handing them not just the Idoit Ball  but complete and utter  idot ball for the sake of  DRAAMMMMAAA 

I'm rather glad they did not do that... these are  supposed to be adults not  13 yr old middle schoolers. 

If that's idiotic, then so is Miranda's "break-up=death". In both cases, it's a matter of trust. And trust is, in the end, always personal.

 

Which Miranda is IMO I was never a fan of break up death because I have seen very few who can set the table right so it does not come of as completly contrived for the sack of drama.   

Well there is one...but thats rather special case.
 

Modifié par nitefyre410, 02 mai 2012 - 02:10 .

[xIREDEEMEDIx]

no,
your not a jerk....it's not like anything too much more happens if you were to continue.

[CmnDwnWrkn]

Elyiia wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

Elyiia wrote...
Yeah, if you say you're still together then cheat on her she stays alive which is crazy. So much for consequences for cheating on your LI.

Bad programming, rather. I don't really mind, since she gets singled out for a break-up death, and the list of her survival conditions is longer than anyone else's. Someone on the team must've wanted her dead badly. Still, she got a better deal than Thane or Jacob. 

Kelly gets the same treatment, there's about five different ways for her to die as well.

But it would have been nice for Bioware to actually keep their promise that cheating on a LI would have serious consequences.

The treatment of Kelly's death was one of the things that bothered me the most in ME3.  News of her death is revealed via auto-dialogue between two strangers AND SHEPARD DOESN'T EVEN RESPOND.  I couldn't believe how utterly careless this was.

[DevilBeast]

Well, Miranda was never interested in my femshep so I just stuck with my favorite blue chick:)

[Catroi]

the only L.I who deserves to suffer is Jacob...

[Dr. Megaverse]

ckriley wrote...

Man, I imported my male Shepard that romanced Liara in ME1 but then romanced Miranda in ME2.  Out of nostalgia, I rekindled the romance with Liara, figuring this Shepard always loved her even though he had a fling with Miranda.

But when I ended things with Miranda I was totally not expecting her reaction.  She turns from you and cries!  Then, even though she tries to hold it together, she has tears streaming down her face.  I felt like the biggest jerk and almost wanted to reload the game to choose to continue the romance.  Seriously, I know it sounds funny or cheesy but I felt really crappy in real life.

Anyone else have this reaction?

This is what scuttled my LI attempt with Ashley.  Seriously Miranda + Tears = Most heart wrenching reaction ever...

[BobbyDylan]

Wow, that break up is pretty hecktic. I'm glad I dumped her ass in ME2 after the collector base, so my import says "did not romance anyone".

[nuculerman]

nuculerman wrote...

Question. How worth it is it to rekindle the relationship from an options view? I know she dies if you dump her (I avoided this) but is there a lot of extra dialogue on the Oriana rescue mission? Because I watched the "romance" scenes and it seems like Bioware put almost no time into her character as a ME3 LI, which is one of the main reasons I avoided it.

[ckriley]

Ieldra2 wrote...

SNascimento wrote...
If you break up with her, she dies no matter what?

It appears so, yes. Apparently there's some piece of information you give her that's vital for her survival, but if you broke up with her she never asks. But an unromanced Miranda is OK.

Does anyone know if she ever asks for Alliance resources if you broke up with her. Does she even contact you again?

Of course I never break up with her. I have zero reason to, as opposed to Ash in ME2, where the game gives me a good excuse. It's a well-made scene, though. She speaks almost normally but you see the tears streaming down her face. She won't show her feelings to the jerk who just broke up with her, but can't hold it in completely. And Shepard....well....his lines are cheap. "We can't go back to what we were." Hmph. But going back to what you were with Ashley or Liara, that's ok?

@Elyiia:
You can cheat: Confirm Miranda's romance, then reject her by implication, i.e. by affirming your ME1 romance. Miranda will go back to the state "unromanced", but she won't die. At least that's what I've heard.

Well, Ashley I can agree with.  But the reason I went back to Liara was because as I stated before, she never stopped loving Shepard.  And it was because of her that Shepard was brought back to life.  She couldn't let him/her go.  Plus, Liara was my Shepard's first love so it made sense to me that after being so close to her again that those feelings would return.  No different than if something like that happened in real life.

My Shepard cares for Miranda, but Liara always had his heart.  She was his true love.  That's how I reasoned it.  But like I said, I just was NOT expecting Miranda's reaction.  I didn't think breaking up with her would have that effect.  I thought she would do what she did in ME2 if you decided to end things, which is be calm, cool, reasonable and even a bit icy about it.  Like, "It's probably for the best.  We can't waste time on things like this with the galaxy at war.  We'll be in touch, Shepard."

Instead she is devastated and has a very human response.  It was heart wrenching and even though I've progressed further along in the game, I am seriously considering going back to that save point.  

[wicked_being]

Catroi wrote...

the only L.I who deserves to suffer is Jacob...

Am I the only one who wish there's a renegade interrupt with FemShep's hands pressing against Jacob's wound and calling him a cheating bastard? She didn't even slap him *smh*

[Taboo]

And here I though Jacob was a cool guy.

Six months? He dumped FemShep and got a girl pregnant in six months?

Worse yet Bioware has attached a STEREOTYPE to a black character.

God.

[CrutchCricket]

One does not simply break up with Miranda...

[Taboo]

CrutchCricket wrote...

One does not simply break up with Miranda...

This.

[ckriley]

wicked_being wrote...

Catroi wrote...

the only L.I who deserves to suffer is Jacob...

Am I the only one who wish there's a renegade interrupt with FemShep's hands pressing against Jacob's wound and calling him a cheating bastard? She didn't even slap him *smh*

Whoa, is that true?  I only thought he did that if you never romanced him.  I figured if you chose him as an LI in ME2, you could continue it in ME3 just like you can with anyone else you may have romanced previously.

[Taboo]

ckriley wrote...

wicked_being wrote...

Catroi wrote...

the only L.I who deserves to suffer is Jacob...

Am I the only one who wish there's a renegade interrupt with FemShep's hands pressing against Jacob's wound and calling him a cheating bastard? She didn't even slap him *smh*

Whoa, is that true?  I only thought he did that if you never romanced him.  I figured if you chose him as an LI in ME2, you could continue it in ME3 just like you can with anyone else you may have romanced previously.

Yeah, he dumps FemShep for Doctor Brynn AND gets her pregnant.

In six months.

[Lawrence0294]

Taboo-XX wrote...

CrutchCricket wrote...

One does not simply break up with Miranda...

This.

Seconded 

[tonnactus]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Ahms wrote...

I didn't feel a thing. She can't have babies anyway, what's the point? No long-term potential, yo.

Which is probably one of the most emotionally devastating things that a woman can learn. She cannot produce life.

That's really sad dude.

The emotional bearing it must have on her is tremendous.

How ironic she rejected a guy with a genetic desease before knowing this...