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[quack123]

No because Javik has a brain that has cells, memory shards are for storing information, never did i say Javik was a rock or a metal just that the memory shards were. I believe you are just unable to comprehend my logics.

[TheJester000]

a ViciousFerret wrote...
I answered partially in the other post. And I answered the last question. More Protheans surely did, but they probably awakened tens of thousands of years ago, or ran out of energy to support their pods. Evidence being we've haven't encountered them yet.

Any time you have to answer with a "probably" statement means there is uncertainty. So it is possible that there are more Protheans somewhere in the galaxy, which also means its a possibility to have Protheans in MP as long as BW writes it correctly.

Modifié par TheJester000, 02 mai 2012 - 01:00 .

[Wesus]

Memory shards are in his body, how can a rock or glass or metal grow???. Or how can it be in an organism. It can't

Your logics aren't good, your logics are non-existant

[quack123]

Wesus wrote...

Memory shards are in his body, how can a rock or glass or metal grow???. Or how can it be in an organism. It can't

Your logics aren't good, your logics are non-existant

Except they show a memory shard outside his body in the game.

[Wesus]

Considering nearly THE whole batarian hegemony has been wiped out, rhere are your extra weapons as the batarians got plenty after what happened to them. Issue solved, money saved we can clone protheans now.

[Thargorichiban]

TheJester000 wrote...

a ViciousFerret wrote...
I answered partially in the other post. And I answered the last question. More Protheans surely did, but they probably awakened tens of thousands of years ago, or ran out of energy to support their pods. Evidence being we've haven't encountered them yet.

Any time you have to answer with a "probably" statement means there is uncertainty. So it is possible that there are more Protheans somewhere in the galaxy, which also means its a possibility to have Protheans in MP as long as BW writes it correctly.

Guys, this is how it's going to go down:

We'll get a post on the blog from Admiral Hackett saying that the Alliance/Turians/Asari unearthed an ancient base of Prothean warriors that Cerberus was trying to access. Allied forces rescued the Protheans in stasis and awakened them to fight once more against the Reapers.

And that'll pretty much be it. Unlock your prothean characters by buying packs.

[The Mad Sage]

Lorewise, I think they should fix the AR balancing issues by letting us play a faction of Guilt Ridden Husk defectors that fight to the theme of "Unbreak My Husk" by Tony Braxtarian.

Robotussin tastes good.

[a ViciousFerret]

TheJester000 wrote...

a ViciousFerret wrote...
I answered partially in the other post. And I answered the last question. More Protheans surely did, but they probably awakened tens of thousands of years ago, or ran out of energy to support their pods. Evidence being we've haven't encountered them yet.

Any time you have to answer with a "probably" statement means there is uncertainty. So it is possible that there are more Protheans somewhere in the galaxy, which also means its a possibility to have Protheans in MP as long as BW writes it correctly.

Oh yah I never denied that. As I've said in the first place, it is the ONLY possible way Protheans could appear.

What I am trying to say is that the chances of it happening are incredibly low. The Protheans didn't intend to go to sleep for 50,000 years in time for the next cycle, they intended to awake in the next thousand years. If they didn't awaken due to error then their pods ran out of juice and they died. If they did awaken at some point, they failed to reestablish Prothean civilization obviously. Come to think about it, I am having a hard time thinking how they would be in stasis for 50,000 years like Javik. Javik is a one and only due to accident(energy source meant to keep millions of pods alive for a thousand years or so were diverted to only keeping Javik alive).

[a ViciousFerret]

Wesus wrote...

Considering nearly THE whole batarian hegemony has been wiped out, rhere are your extra weapons as the batarians got plenty after what happened to them. Issue solved, money saved we can clone protheans now.

Batarians =/= Batarian Hegemony.

Batarians were around the galaxy, especially in Terminus Systems.

Batarian Hegemony or government were wiped out. Their civilians refugees fled to Citadel/elsewhere. Only small remnents of their fleet escaped as well. Reapers control Khar'shan and other Batarian Hegemony planets, we don't have their weapons.

Also Wesus, cloning them isn't the problem, this is:

a ViciousFerret wrote...

Just FYI Cloning makes no sense at all.

Even
if Salarians can clone Protheans, (on the assumption that Mordin was
able to pluck some Prothean DNA off Javik at some point and give it to
the STG before leaving Normandy and dieing) and even if the Salarians
can clone fully mature Protheans in the matter of days and clone an army
worth of them.... the Protheans would have no idea what is going on,
they would be lost and heavily confused (not to mention angry, and
they'll take it out on anyone, not just reapers) wouldn't be loyal to
anyone, would have no knowledge of their society, culture, history or
civilization (and no, Javik can't teach them because he is with Shepard
and he himself doesn't know **** about his civilization either, he was
born at the very last thread of it), would have no knowledge of Prothean
battle tactics, no access to Prothean weapons and armors, and would not
know how to use Prothean biotics.

And to wrap it all up, well
erm, the Salarians are about to be wiped out by the Reapers just as
everyone else is. They wouldn't be wasting trillions of credits on a
Prothean cloning facility which serves no purpose or goal other than
"just cause" when they could be investing in the defense of their
PLANET.

So cloning argument ends here.

The only viable
option is finding a whole ton of them in stasis which the citadel
species, the shadow broker, Cerberus, the Collectors and the Reapers all
missed for the last few thousands of years, because erm... space magic
and whiny kids who want Prothean flavored pixels.

Modifié par a ViciousFerret, 02 mai 2012 - 01:12 .

[Esker02]

a ViciousFerret wrote...

What will the Prothean scientists do? Their numbers are very few and they can't establish a colony with those numbers. Assuming Prothean society isn't sexist and there are scientists of both sexes anyway.

A very good question, but not for me to answer. I merely endorsed it as a good starting point because it cleverly draws on an overlooked point of existing lore from ME1 that hasn't been definitively concluded, rather than resorting to the tired "we found some more" cop out that a lot here seem to endorse.

Modifié par Esker02, 02 mai 2012 - 01:16 .

[a ViciousFerret]

Esker02 wrote...

a ViciousFerret wrote...

What will the Prothean scientists do? Their numbers are very few and they can't establish a colony with those numbers. Assuming Prothean society isn't sexist and there are scientists of both sexes anyway.

A very good question, but not for me to answer. I merely endorsed it as a good starting point because it cleverly draws on an overlooked point of existing lore from ME1 that hasn't been definitively concluded, rather than resorting to the tired "we found some more" cop out that a lot here seem to endorse.

I see, It could work that way but not without some major Single Player DLC.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Anyway, I kind of have to study for my gazillion of final evaluations and stuff this month, I think I've covered everything about why Protheans shouldn't be available using logic, not crying about breaking lore.

I'll check this thread later to see if anyone's said anything interesting.

[NinthGeorgesw]

a ViciousFerret wrote...

TheJester000 wrote...

a ViciousFerret wrote...
I answered partially in the other post. And I answered the last question. More Protheans surely did, but they probably awakened tens of thousands of years ago, or ran out of energy to support their pods. Evidence being we've haven't encountered them yet.

Any time you have to answer with a "probably" statement means there is uncertainty. So it is possible that there are more Protheans somewhere in the galaxy, which also means its a possibility to have Protheans in MP as long as BW writes it correctly.

Oh yah I never denied that. As I've said in the first place, it is the ONLY possible way Protheans could appear.

What I am trying to say is that the chances of it happening are incredibly low. The Protheans didn't intend to go to sleep for 50,000 years in time for the next cycle, they intended to awake in the next thousand years. If they didn't awaken due to error then their pods ran out of juice and they died. If they did awaken at some point, they failed to reestablish Prothean civilization obviously. Come to think about it, I am having a hard time thinking how they would be in stasis for 50,000 years like Javik. Javik is a one and only due to accident(energy source meant to keep millions of pods alive for a thousand years or so were diverted to only keeping Javik alive).

But if the Protheans were spread apart one small group, say a few hundred, then they could decide the best way to fight the Reapers is to stay in stasis until the next cycle and lead the next races to fight the Reapers.

[TheJester000]

a ViciousFerret wrote...

TheJester000 wrote...

a ViciousFerret wrote...
I answered partially in the other post. And I answered the last question. More Protheans surely did, but they probably awakened tens of thousands of years ago, or ran out of energy to support their pods. Evidence being we've haven't encountered them yet.

Any time you have to answer with a "probably" statement means there is uncertainty. So it is possible that there are more Protheans somewhere in the galaxy, which also means its a possibility to have Protheans in MP as long as BW writes it correctly.

Oh yah I never denied that. As I've said in the first place, it is the ONLY possible way Protheans could appear.

What I am trying to say is that the chances of it happening are incredibly low. The Protheans didn't intend to go to sleep for 50,000 years in time for the next cycle, they intended to awake in the next thousand years. If they didn't awaken due to error then their pods ran out of juice and they died. If they did awaken at some point, they failed to reestablish Prothean civilization obviously. Come to think about it, I am having a hard time thinking how they would be in stasis for 50,000 years like Javik. Javik is a one and only due to accident(energy source meant to keep millions of pods alive for a thousand years or so were diverted to only keeping Javik alive).

Yes, but again you are assuming that there is no Prothean society anywhere in this gigantic place we call space. If Javik could do it, and the scientists on Ilos could, who's to say others couldn't also. The Prothean empire spanned much farther than our known galaxy in ME. There could be pods somewhere on some very far and distant planet that have lasted through time, or even some protheans who came out of those pods thousands of years ago and formed some self sustaining, hidden colony.  I understand that the chances or very small but there is still a chance, and it can fit the lore. Imo, its futile to say that there cannot be, with a certainty, under any circumstances, be Protheans in MP when there are so many ways that there CAN be logically and without breaking lore, which is what this discussion was originally about.

Modifié par TheJester000, 02 mai 2012 - 01:36 .

[Viquey]

This is interesting. I hope those are male quarians they mean; that'd be nifty. Turians would be cool too, though. And lawl, Vorcha.

When I first read "phoenix", I thought Raloi, actually. But since Javik's DLC is called "From Ashes" and all, I guess Prothean would make more sense. Kinda a shame. I guess there could be some alive somewhere, but still ruins Javik's whole mystery and sole-survivor-revenge deal. :/

Alternatively this might not be at all true. But that's what we all thought about the last leak, so who knows?

[TheJester000]

What is this Raloi species several people have mentioned? Is it in the game or maybe something from the books?

[Tangster]

Modifié par Tangster, 02 mai 2012 - 01:50 .

[Geimhreadh]

Hmm, this phoenix:

https://encrypted-tb...KmG5Oni53Rd5gFg

or this one:

https://encrypted-tb...tp5oNZ9axmPg-CQ

[Viquey]

TheJester000 wrote...

What is this Raloi species several people have mentioned? Is it in the game or maybe something from the books?

Neither, really. Here you go. 

[alchemysol]

Tangster wrote...

Wow that looks so fake.

[Ciam]

alchemysol wrote...

Tangster wrote...

Wow that looks so fake.

Did you find it alone?

[Inutaisho7996]

This mysterious "Phoenix" race is interesting. On one hand, it seems fake. On the other hand, the Krogan Battlemaster and Asari Justicar classes from the last leak seemed fake too.

[thegamefreek78648]

alchemysol wrote...

Tangster wrote...

Wow that looks so fake.

Looks legit, buy it up.

[alchemysol]

thegamefreek78648 wrote...

alchemysol wrote...

Tangster wrote...

Wow that looks so fake.

Looks legit, buy it up.

you do realize at the top it says "LucasArts Enterttainment company presents..."

[Broganisity]

alchemysol wrote...

thegamefreek78648 wrote...

alchemysol wrote...

Tangster wrote...

Wow that looks so fake.

Looks legit, buy it up.

you do realize at the top it says "LucasArts Enterttainment company presents..."

Lucas has a...nack for sequels. It's a perfect fit!

Modifié par Broganisity, 02 mai 2012 - 03:01 .

[JasonSic]

A phoenix is reborn from the ashes of itself.

Phoenix is reborn from ashes.

Phoenix...

From Ashes...

Phoenix = From Ashes

From Ashes = Javik

Javik = Prothean

Phoenix = Prothean

HOLY #&@$!