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[Daxolotl]

jpraelster93 wrote...

Ciam wrote...

Ubergrog wrote...

They are not ex-cerberus, there are already 13 human classes in the game. there won't be any more.

Give me a reason why it could be impossible to get 15 instead of 13. Because you decided it? lol...

because we need variety not more of the same

Every Human in the game currently has Alliance training. They all fight in fundamentally the same way, with Alliance armour and tactics. Cerberus behaves differently. They were originally a small, well-trained splinter group. They didn't have the numbers to use Alliance tactics. Yes, they'd be the same species, but that doesn't mean they would act the same, or have the same voice. Clearly you're not talking about gameplay, as there were already 4 characters that couldn't combat roll before the first DLC and 3 more were added in Resurgance.

Not wanting more Humans simply because they are human is silly. If they are different enough to the current classes, I would welcome them. They could be Prothean, Human, or Hanar for all I care, provided they have interesting abilities.

Phoenix hints at Prothean, yes, but it also hints at Cerberus. In ME2, Cerberus was an honourable group with good intentions. At ME3, they were a shadow of their former self. They rise from the ashes of their ruined group and fight against the Reapers. Yes, it's less concrete than suggestion Protehans, but the weekend challenge does seem to back it up. It mentions Cerberus defectors, Vorcha, and technically-skilled
personnel. That's seems to lean quite far towards Ex-Cerberus, regardless of the leaked information about "Phoenix" classes. This is what has been actually announced by Bioware.

[Lagrad Gribble]

Daxolotl wrote...

jpraelster93 wrote...

Ciam wrote...

Ubergrog wrote...

They are not ex-cerberus, there are already 13 human classes in the game. there won't be any more.

Give me a reason why it could be impossible to get 15 instead of 13. Because you decided it? lol...

because we need variety not more of the same

Every Human in the game currently has Alliance training. They all fight in fundamentally the same way, with Alliance armour and tactics. Cerberus behaves differently. They were originally a small, well-trained splinter group. They didn't have the numbers to use Alliance tactics. Yes, they'd be the same species, but that doesn't mean they would act the same, or have the same voice. Clearly you're not talking about gameplay, as there were already 4 characters that couldn't combat roll before the first DLC and 3 more were added in Resurgance.

Not wanting more Humans simply because they are human is silly. If they are different enough to the current classes, I would welcome them. They could be Prothean, Human, or Hanar for all I care, provided they have interesting abilities.

Phoenix hints at Prothean, yes, but it also hints at Cerberus. In ME2, Cerberus was an honourable group with good intentions. At ME3, they were a shadow of their former self. They rise from the ashes of their ruined group and fight against the Reapers. Yes, it's less concrete than suggestion Protehans, but the weekend challenge does seem to back it up. It mentions Cerberus defectors, Vorcha, and technically-skilled
personnel. That's seems to lean quite far towards Ex-Cerberus, regardless of the leaked information about "Phoenix" classes. This is what has been actually announced by Bioware.

I've seen less stretching in a Fantastic Four comic

[Rahabzu]

Lagrad Gribble wrote...

I've seen less stretching in a Fantastic Four comic

I cant wait to see you wrong.

[spaceling]

I called it first: Dumbledore's Fawkes. How dumb will everyone feel when I'm right!

Modifié par spaceling, 10 mai 2012 - 08:09 .

[Ubergrog]

Cerberus Defectors =/= new human units.

Remember, you can rescue an entire team of cerberus defector scientists in game.

Everyone always wants to be the ninja, get over it. you will not be able to play a Phantom.

[Lagrad Gribble]

Rahabzu wrote...

Lagrad Gribble wrote...

I've seen less stretching in a Fantastic Four comic

I cant wait to see you wrong.

I'm saying it's farfetched is all. There's SO much more evidence for it being Protheans than Cerberus units.

[jpraelster93]

if its ex cerberus that would suck protheans would be better

[Lagrad Gribble]

jpraelster93 wrote...

if its ex cerberus that would suck protheans would be better

Not to mention confusing if you're playing AGAINST Cerberus.

[jpraelster93]

Lagrad Gribble wrote...

jpraelster93 wrote...

if its ex cerberus that would suck protheans would be better

Not to mention confusing if you're playing AGAINST Cerberus.

yes it would

[NinthGeorgesw]

Lagrad Gribble wrote...

jpraelster93 wrote...

if its ex cerberus that would suck protheans would be better

Not to mention confusing if you're playing AGAINST Cerberus.

Note the Ex-Cerberus

[Lagrad Gribble]

NinthGeorgesw wrote...

Lagrad Gribble wrote...

jpraelster93 wrote...

if its ex cerberus that would suck protheans would be better

Not to mention confusing if you're playing AGAINST Cerberus.

Note the Ex-Cerberus

Note the lack of evidence

[NinthGeorgesw]

Lagrad Gribble wrote...

NinthGeorgesw wrote...

Lagrad Gribble wrote...

jpraelster93 wrote...

if its ex cerberus that would suck protheans would be better

Not to mention confusing if you're playing AGAINST Cerberus.

Note the Ex-Cerberus

Note the lack of evidence

I'm not stating they will appear. Just pointing out that the explanation for them fighting Cerberus.

[OblivionDawn]

Lagrad Gribble wrote...

jpraelster93 wrote...

if its ex cerberus that would suck protheans would be better

Not to mention confusing if you're playing AGAINST Cerberus.

All the more reason to put Cerberus colors on my Soldier, run towards my teammates with guns blazing, and scream "DAMMIT" over the mic.

[NinthGeorgesw]

Double post.

Modifié par NinthGeorgesw, 10 mai 2012 - 08:47 .

[MisterJB]

Lagrad Gribble wrote...

jpraelster93 wrote...

if its ex cerberus that would suck protheans would be better

Not to mention confusing if you're playing AGAINST Cerberus.

Because we can't already play as Geth AGAINST other Geth.

[Lagrad Gribble]

MisterJB wrote...

Lagrad Gribble wrote...

jpraelster93 wrote...

if its ex cerberus that would suck protheans would be better

Not to mention confusing if you're playing AGAINST Cerberus.

Because we can't already play as Geth AGAINST other Geth.

Which can also be confusing as hell if the person is a jerk

[Ibn_Shisha]

Phoenix could be raloi.

[DoctorEss]

Ibn_Shisha wrote...

Phoenix could be raloi.

There's enough reasons why they couldn't be.

[Lagrad Gribble]

Ibn_Shisha wrote...

Phoenix could be raloi.

Incredibly unlikely since the codex said they completely withdrawed from the galactic community and destroyed all their orbiting equipment to appear too "underdeveloped" to the Reapers.

[Ibn_Shisha]

Just as likely as prothean, considering canon states only one is alive. Raloi thing is a stretch, I admit, based on Phoenix=bird=avian=raloi, but prothean is also a stretch. Also, just because their government decides one thing doesn't mean there wouldn't be dissenters. Happens with salarians in SP.

Could even be a whole new race for all we know.

Modifié par Ibn_Shisha, 10 mai 2012 - 09:01 .

[Lagrad Gribble]

Ibn_Shisha wrote...

Just as likely as prothean, considering canon states only one is alive. Raloi thing is a stretch, I admit, based on Phoenix=bird=avian=raloi, but prothean is also a stretch. Also, just because their government decides one thing doesn't mean there wouldn't be dissenters. Happens with salarians in SP.

Could even be a whole new race for all we know.

Not really likely at all to be Raloi. To be a multiplayer race, that would mean they have both the ability and willingness to send soldiers to the front lines. Raloi are trying to appear underdeveloped to hopefully be spared. So that would mean the Government wouldn't have any space vehicles, let alone ones for DEEP intergalactic travel. Which means for there to be Raloi soldiers on the front lines, private individuals would have to both build their own intergalactic ship AND be a skilled soldier. Seems just too fatfetched.

And we've seen that Protheans have the technology to put people into stasis for VERY long periods of time, and they've obviously tried multiple times. So the fact they've even TRIED means it's a very real possiblity that it's worked somewhere and there is a site filled with "frozen" Prothean soldiers just waiting to be woken up.

[stysiaq]

I don't know if it was posted here earlier, but I heard that the Phoenix class can actually mean Prothean, because phoenixes are born from ashes. FROM ASHES. Now check the official ME3 DLC and prepare to be mind blown. I just hope there would be a plausible explanation for this, because I really care about the lore.

Also, Anderson was born in London.

[blasto lives]

Ibn_Shisha wrote...

Just as likely as prothean, considering canon states only one is alive. Raloi thing is a stretch, I admit, based on Phoenix=bird=avian=raloi, but prothean is also a stretch. Also, just because their government decides one thing doesn't mean there wouldn't be dissenters. Happens with salarians in SP.

Could even be a whole new race for all we know.

The biggest reason that Protheans are much more likely than Raloi is that the Prothean model is already in-game.  They don't have to make any new resources.

Also, for those who are citing the "Cerberus defectors" line in the new operation as evidence for ex-cerberus - I think it was intended to provide continuity with the previous operation, where we captured a bunch of cerberus assets.

[NinthGeorgesw]

stysiaq wrote...

I don't know if it was posted here earlier, but I heard that the Phoenix class can actually mean Prothean, because phoenixes are born from ashes. FROM ASHES. Now check the official ME3 DLC and prepare to be mind blown.

How on Earth did no one notice this earlier? Honestly you would think someone would have realised that earlier and posted it on, say, page 2 of this thread.

[Lagrad Gribble]

NinthGeorgesw wrote...

stysiaq wrote...

I don't know if it was posted here earlier, but I heard that the Phoenix class can actually mean Prothean, because phoenixes are born from ashes. FROM ASHES. Now check the official ME3 DLC and prepare to be mind blown.

How on Earth did no one notice this earlier? Honestly you would think someone would have realised that earlier and posted it on, say, page 2 of this thread.

To be fair, there are like 50 pages. Most people would see that number and just throw their two cents into it without checking the other comments.