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[Linksys17]

Orkboy wrote...

Linksys17 wrote...

Orkboy wrote...

aj2070 wrote...

Lookout1390 wrote...

"We promise Mac will get to write more this time around, he feels like he hasn't reached his true potential yet, he was always fond of purple"

-Casey Hudson on the EC

Oh hell no...

Please tell me that's a joke?

He frelled up the ending once and he's been let loose on it again after the abortion he gave us the first time around?

Give it to the guys that did Tuchanka.  You know... The guys that did the only truely outstanding part of the game.

Obv a joke

I guessed that, but the way that Bioware's brain seems to be working these days it wouldn't surprise me if they went with it.

Ha that's true 

[Torrible]

xsdob wrote...

Hihoshi101 wrote...


Snip

xsdob wrote...

And I'm sure you feel the same way when it comes to forced vaccinations. You know, the stuff that doesn't cause autism and can save your childs life...but it violates my childs choice to not have a way of defending themselves from illness so i oppose this measure that violates my childs core prinicpals of being human.

As a sibling of a child with Autism that was on the road to recovery until he was forced to get a vaccine because of extended family pressure. I find you to be out of line with that comment. Vaccinations may not cause Autism but they do agrivate the condition. so STFU unless you are realted (sibling or parent) to someone with Autism or have PHD in Medical Sciences.<_<

For the record I believe that every person should have the right to
say what happens to their body so YES Synthesis IS WRONG.<_<

This will be in.s.u.l.ting and cause a flamewar but I feel the need to post it.

The scientist who made that claim, Andrew Jeremy Wakefield, admitted that he lied about his results for money that a legal firm was offering him. They wanted to sue a large vaccine making company and needed data to back it up, Wakefeild forged the data and published it.

He's a crook and a liar, and his data is responsible for the deaths of every child whose come down with vaccinatable diseases.

This is 10000x more important than the ME3 ending.

http://edition.cnn.c...ines/index.html 

A now-retracted British study that linked autism to childhood vaccines was an "elaborate fraud" that has done long-lasting damage to public health, a leading medical publication reported Wednesday.

 

When we make risky decisions about our health, it's always good to be in possession of all the facts, to let our brains, and not our hearts, make the decision. Your child is thousands of times more likely to die from a preventable disease you didn't vaccinate them against than to develop autism from a vaccine you did give them. The case for autism and vaccines is solely based on weak correlations and emotional responses.

[Ieldra]

mauro2222 wrote...

xsdob wrote...

I am the same guy who supported augmentation in deus ex human revolution though, so that may just be my world view.

The problem with Deus Ex: HR it's a very specific one, technology is a tool, a way of adaptation, one uses this tool but does not become the tool in the process. If there is no limitation to what we can do, to what we can become, we lose our very soul in the process, we forget what human means, what is humanity for us. This technological dominace over nature paves the way for abuse over it, something that we can already see in modern times. This dominance can doom us all for the very selfishness of just a few, and we risk losing all the good things of being human just because we want to achieve perfection.

What Sarif says is pure BS, we don't improve ourselfs to raise the limit line, we improve ourselves to do the right things, to correct previous mistakes and to not make them again. Sarif proposes the most disgusting way to solve mistakes.

All I see is modern techno-skepticism at work, supported by reactionary priggishness. I've been getting sick of this attitude over the last 20 years. What the hell is good about the limitations of the human condition? I say they're something to be overcome! We exist to grow beyond ourselves, and if our descendants who live a million years from now still recognize us in themselves, something has gone seriously wrong. Losing our soul? Who are you to say what my soul is and where the limits are of that which I may or may not aspire to? If there are no dreams for a better future, if they'll get drowned in fear of something going wrong, then why don't we all kill ourselves and be done with it? I'm done with cautionary tales.

Prometheus stole fire from the gods and gave it to humanity. In mythology, that was the start of human civilization. We should take our fate into our own hands and follow his example instead of being held back by traditional superstitions and reactionary beliefs about the sanctity of the natural - which has more often been cruel to us than kind. Yes, "be careful" is a very good guideline for new technologies, but "be fearful" is not.

Most people appear unable to appreciate the difference these days.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 02 mai 2012 - 07:36 .

[aj2070]

Orkboy wrote...

Linksys17 wrote...

Orkboy wrote...

aj2070 wrote...

Lookout1390 wrote...

"We promise Mac will get to write more this time around, he feels like he hasn't reached his true potential yet, he was always fond of purple"

-Casey Hudson on the EC

Oh hell no...

Please tell me that's a joke?

He frelled up the ending once and he's been let loose on it again after the abortion he gave us the first time around?

Give it to the guys that did Tuchanka.  You know... The guys that did the only truely outstanding part of the game.

Obv a joke

I guessed that, but the way that Bioware's brain seems to be working these days it wouldn't surprise me if they went with it.

And why I reacted that way.  The way BioWare has handled Mass Effect 3, that could have been a legitimate quote.

Modifié par aj2070, 02 mai 2012 - 07:42 .

[Linksys17]

Pff I just think it would be really irresponsible to make a purple ending they should have started with primary color explosions such as red yellow blue, then secondary colors, then ternary colors, duhhh
Basic color theory

[mauro2222]

Ieldra2 wrote...

mauro2222 wrote...

xsdob wrote...

I am the same guy who supported augmentation in deus ex human revolution though, so that may just be my world view.

The problem with Deus Ex: HR it's a very specific one, technology is a tool, a way of adaptation, one uses this tool but does not become the tool in the process. If there is no limitation to what we can do, to what we can become, we lose our very soul in the process, we forget what human means, what is humanity for us. This technological dominace over nature paves the way for abuse over it, something that we can already see in modern times. This dominance can doom us all for the very selfishness of just a few, and we risk losing all the good things of being human just because we want to achieve perfection.

What Sarif says is pure BS, we don't improve ourselfs to raise the limit line, we improve ourselves to do the right things, to correct previous mistakes and to not make them again. Sarif proposes the most disgusting way to solve mistakes.

All I see is modern techno-skepticism at work, supported by reactionary priggishness. I've been getting sick of this attitude over the last 20 years. What the hell is good about the limitations of the human condition? I say they're something to be overcome! We exist to grow beyond ourselves, and if our descendants who live a million years from now still recognize us in themselves, something has gone seriously wrong. Losing our soul? Who are you to say what my soul is and where the limits are of that which I may or may not aspire to? If there are no dreams for a better future, if they'll get drowned in fear of something going wrong, then why don't we all kill ourselves and be done with it? I'm done with cautionary tales.

Prometheus stole fire from the gods and gave it to humanity. In mythology, that was the start of human civilization. We should take our fate into our own hands and follow his example instead of being held back by traditional superstitions and reactionary beliefs about the sanctity of the natural - which has more often been cruel to us than kind. Yes, "be careful" is a very good guideline for new technologies, but "be fearful" is not.

Most people appear unable to appreciate the difference these days.

I like how you completly dismissed my post because you are unable to read well. I never said we must fear technological progress, it's stupid and can't be stopped because is our mean to adapt and survive. I never said we must stay under the limit line! Booh! fear me! My sentences on limitations was on the purpose of improving. I never said your soul is this, and I'm not talking in a "religious" definition of soul, never claimed either that you must aspire to this or you're doomed. Open your mind, read again. And your fate is always on your hands, you decide what to do with it. And stealing is not a good example to follow

Going to work, good day.

Modifié par mauro2222, 02 mai 2012 - 07:55 .

[mage110011]

i wonder if they will have exra content on marauder shields or have a playable skin of him in MP

[chevyguy87]

I am curious to see how they plan on resolving the matter. After sifting through the thread and reading the debates I am siding with The Angry One on this topic. That ending sequence completely goes against the basic premise of the series. Synthesis? Don't even get me started on that mindless swill of an "ending".

[greggm2000]

Pride Demon wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

Unless there's a good reason.

There is no good reason.
Joker would not do this. It is out of character. The whole galaxy could be exploding, and Joker would stay for Shepard.

There was a poster here on the forum, that while writing some "Letters from Shepard" came up with the idea of Shepard ordering Joker that before the mission...

Essentially it would have been something like this...
"I'll make a push for the Citadel on the ground, if I fail, disengage, get to Ilos and use the Conduit"
Considering everyone was presumed dead after Harby's attack that would make sense, it would sort of mend the thing in my opinion...

Like I've speculated elsewhere, I think Shepard is on the Normandy at that point, along with the rest of the surviving crew. I think Bioware is being deliberately sneaky there in terms of sequencing and missing information. I could easily see Shep laying there in the rubble (on the citadel), the reapers just having been destroyed, and with the battle over, Joker picking up the LI and the rest, and picks up Shep (where, if she survived, would have to be in a fairly obvious place).. at which point maybe Shep revives enough to warn that the mass relays are about to be destroyed (or maybe there's some other way of detecting it, for those cases where Shep doesn't survive), then they hightail it out to another system (Thessia?), except of course they don't quite make it and we see the scene we do, with the Normandy losing control and then the scene with them walking out of the ship. Shep's injured, she's not going to be walking out herself.. but Shep being right there and alive and stable would reinforce why we see the LI smiling.

I've no proof of course, but as least it hangs together in a way that seems to make sense to me. Who knows, maybe the EC will show me to be right!

[Kunari801]

greggm2000 wrote...

Like I've speculated elsewhere, I think Shepard is on the Normandy at that point, along with the rest of the surviving crew.... but Shep being right there and alive and stable would reinforce why we see the LI smiling.

I've no proof of course, but as least it hangs together in a way that seems to make sense to me. Who knows, maybe the EC will show me to be right!

That's a nice thought for my head-canon. 

[Taboo]

Gamble just said that they won't explain or justify the endings.........red light there Mike. They are going to answer questions as to what happened though. LOLWHUT?

Your endings are bad and you know it but you are going to pull something out of your butt to make it more palatable.

Then again I don't care to have the endings justified as I think they're fine so as long as they are expanded upon.

[Velocithon]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Gamble just said that they won't explain or justify the endings.........red light there Mike. They are going to answer questions as to what happened though. LOLWHUT?

Your endings are bad and you know it but you are going to pull something out of your butt to make it more palatable.

Then again I don't care to have the endings justified as I think they're fine so as long as they are expanded upon.

They have no idea what they are doing. Raise the "they're ****ing up" level to 5 (out of 5).

[Taboo]

I seriously hope they plan on letting information trickle down.

They have no idea how much more **** can go down........

[Kunari801]

Taboo-XX wrote...

I seriously hope they plan on letting information trickle down.

They have no idea how much more **** can go down........

They don't need to "defend" the ending, just make it palatable. 

I'm just hoping for closure with my Shepard's crew & LI.   Reunion with LI & Crew (Shep lives) or Shepard's funeral scene (Shep dies).   I'd love a "X years later" scenes showing our crew moving on with babies of their own: Garrus & Tali in her house on Rannoch(sp?), Liara with blue babies, etc.   

[ArchDuck]

xsdob wrote...

I picked control, shepard has done the impossible before, I have faith he can pull off one last miracle.

Lol I picked it too. I thought: "Well if he really has control, even for just one order, why can't it be "Fly into the nearest blackhole"?"

[Mesmurae]

I refuse to get excited about anything Mass Effect related until I get the extended cut DLC. I'm not setting myself up for even more disappointment.

[Devil Mingy]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Gamble just said that they won't explain or justify the endings.........red light there Mike. They are going to answer questions as to what happened though. LOLWHUT?

Your endings are bad and you know it but you are going to pull something out of your butt to make it more palatable.

Then again I don't care to have the endings justified as I think they're fine so as long as they are expanded upon.

Damn, Gamble... why don't you just tweet "Abandon all hope" ?

I agree with your interpretation. It sounds like they're just going to pull stuff out of their ass to make it a happy ending whether it fixes any logical holes or not.

Fair enough, I suppose. I've already accepted that they are, as always, entitled to their artistic vision. I'm also entitled to my opinion that their artistic vision is poorly thought out garbage.

[Taboo]

Devil Mingy wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Gamble just said that they won't explain or justify the endings.........red light there Mike. They are going to answer questions as to what happened though. LOLWHUT?

Your endings are bad and you know it but you are going to pull something out of your butt to make it more palatable.

Then again I don't care to have the endings justified as I think they're fine so as long as they are expanded upon.

Damn, Gamble... why don't you just tweet "Abandon all hope" ?

I agree with your interpretation. It sounds like they're just going to pull stuff out of their ass to make it a happy ending whether it fixes any logical holes or not.

Fair enough, I suppose. I've already accepted that they are, as always, entitled to their artistic vision. I'm also entitled to my opinion that their artistic vision is poorly thought out garbage.

But in four or five months will I care about logical issues? Probably not.........

[Mesmurae]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Devil Mingy wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Gamble just said that they won't explain or justify the endings.........red light there Mike. They are going to answer questions as to what happened though. LOLWHUT?

Your endings are bad and you know it but you are going to pull something out of your butt to make it more palatable.

Then again I don't care to have the endings justified as I think they're fine so as long as they are expanded upon.

Damn, Gamble... why don't you just tweet "Abandon all hope" ?

I agree with your interpretation. It sounds like they're just going to pull stuff out of their ass to make it a happy ending whether it fixes any logical holes or not.

Fair enough, I suppose. I've already accepted that they are, as always, entitled to their artistic vision. I'm also entitled to my opinion that their artistic vision is poorly thought out garbage.

But in four or five months will I care about logical issues? Probably not.........

I think my overall disappointment just began shifting into apathy.

It's clear that BioWare was never 'listening'.

[puppy maclove]

yawn.... more Bioware BS... I cant believe anything they say...I'll wait and see.

Bioware have disappointed me enough times already.

[Versidious]

Synthesis is a good thing. Not because I like that option - I take Destroy every time. But because it is a different choice from the other two, and it's up to individual players to pick which they like most. Incidentally, how would people feel about Shepard surviving Control at some higher level of EMS?

Anyway, more on topic. I stopped listening to Bioware dev tweets a while ago. They just seem really muddled, with the left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing half the time, and the other half they both release a statement which contradicts what they both were saying they were doing five minutes ago. 

Modifié par Versidious, 02 mai 2012 - 11:00 .

[Kunari801]

Versidious wrote...

Synthesis is a good thing. Not because I like that option - I take Destroy every time. But because it is a different choice from the other two, and it's up to individual players to pick which they like most. Incidentally, how would people feel about Shepard surviving Control at some higher level of EMS?

I still want them to split up the RBG into more acceptable outcomes based on EMS. 

Two options for "Destroy":  I want to be able to kill the Reapers and still have the Geth & EDI live, even if I had to sacrifice Shepard.  My paragon Shepard would want that.  My Renegade is fine with Destroy as it is now.  

Two options for "Control":  I woud like the option to kick out the Reapers, even it it's just back to dark space for another 50K years.  We'd have time to prepare.  I don't want to join them, just kick them out and be able to return to my LI and crew.  Keep the current "control" as well. 

I want to be on the Normany with my crew when --if it must-- crash on that fracking jungle planet.  Even if it's just my remains.  I want to know that my crew didn't abandon me. 

Modifié par Kunari801, 02 mai 2012 - 11:19 .

[Taboo]

Versidious wrote...

Synthesis is a good thing. Not because I like that option - I take Destroy every time. But because it is a different choice from the other two, and it's up to individual players to pick which they like most. Incidentally, how would people feel about Shepard surviving Control at some higher level of EMS?

Anyway, more on topic. I stopped listening to Bioware dev tweets a while ago. They just seem really muddled, with the left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing half the time, and the other half they both release a statement which contradicts what they both were saying they were doing five minutes ago. 

They don't know what they created and are going to use a large net to try and fix things.

The wound is still there it just won't be visible.