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[StarcloudSWG]

Let's see... it takes two months to pass X-box and PS3 certification. Summer releases are usually June/July/August. That means Extended Cut is coming out August 30th or so, and Bioware has until the end of this month to finish writing, record dialog, develop the cinematics, and polish the whole thing until it's a release candidate.

Let's hope it's more than just Casey and Mac doing the writing this time around. Maybe we'll finally get a decent ending.

[The Angry One]

Our_Last_Scene wrote...

I'm gonna be honest, I actually laughed out loud when you accused me of being a liar. Out of all the nonsense responses I expected (I never ran away/you never shot me down) I honestly never thought you'd say I'm a liar and you conveniently can't remember that thread. The amount of backpedaling you'll have to do now is insane, and frankly "Lying is your strong suit" and "I'm barely here anymore" has told me more about you than all the backpedaling will, so I'm not going to bother with this section of the conversation anymore.

You are a liar. That you assumed I said you were lying about the thread itself, which I didn't remember is due to your poor perception. Now are you going to add anything of substance or continue to waste my time?

Actually if I recall you were challenging people to explain it without space magic or plot holes, and were keeping a tally on who took up the challenge (it was no one apparently), I did it successfully and you disappeared. Again. As for the second paragraph:

HAHAHAHA! Oh my god. You keep bringing other topics into this.
Ah yes, that was a challenge to explain, WITHOUT speculation. THAT WAS THE ENTIRE POINT. TO NOT SPECULATE. TO EXPLAIN GIVEN THE AVAILABLE EVIDENCE.

You then proceeded to use conjecture, hence you failed the challenge. My god man do you even read your own posts?

I'm pointing out how petty your actions are, if you changed your actions then my words would be meaningless, it's not a personal jab against you it's a jab against your actions. The reason why I ask is because I'm genuingly interested, you spend an absurd amount of time here appearing in a ton of threads complaining about the ending yet you don't seem to be doing anything about all that complaining. You absolutely have the right to complain, but that doesn't forbid people from pointing out you could be doing something constructive about it as well.

I see you're still intent on wasting my time. As I said, I would ignore any continued jabs and irrelevancy, so my response to you is: Blah blah blah blah.

[ShadowFaction]

Persephone wrote...
Sarcasm, I hope. Given that all that is said is venom, hyperbole & bashing. Nothing positive whatsoever.

What can I say, I'm a optimist. It might be venom, hyperbole and bashing... but if done relatively nicely, s'all good.

Then again, surviving the Dragon Age 2 response steels you against many types of discussions. 

[The Angry One]

MisterJB wrote...

Hey, you keep making up your own themes so, I felt like contributing.

The themes are there. You could make an argument for a theme about conflict for a pure renegade, sure.
But like I said, the ending disregards that too.

Also, this notion that Shepard somehow obeys the Catalyst is ridiculous. And even more so if you truly believe that agreeing with anything it might say equals subservience.

The Catalyst reveals it is the leader of the Reapers, the worst war criminal in universal history and Shepard's de facto sworn enemy. Shepard then proceeds to do everything they say. Obedience.

Agreeing with anything the Catalyst says is subservience, because everything the Catalyst says is provably wrong.

They are presented as good intentioned leaders. But Wrex himself shows no problems with forcefully leaving Tuchanka if the krogan are not granted a new world

He blusters, but his true intentions to keep the Krogan free of their irrational past is clear.

and there were already signs of dissention amongst the clans in the form of Wreav and his supporters.

You mean Wreav who quickly gets yelled into line by Eve.
Also, he dies.

If the Reapers are granted freedom, some might choose to attone for what they did.

Why? They have nothing to atone for in synthesis. They were proven right, from their POV.

And again, I don't see why destroying the Reapers is a must. We already have peace.
Maybe the threat of the Reapers returning will actually incentivate the different species to keep friendly relations.

Yes I'm sure the inhabitants of Andromeda will have Shepard to thank when they're being melted into Reaper goo.

Hardly. Harbinger and Sovereign treated organics as ants which is natural because they are in a completely differnt leven of existance.

No they're not. Reaper arrogance =! fact.

Would you call an adult man who crushes ants "Evil"? Hell, they weren't evne crushing ants. They were raising the ants to their level to stop their extinction.

If those ants were sapient, yes he would be. He would go to jail.

[alec1898]

I always like to live by this:

If your skeptical about something, it'll either turn out to be **** and you'll be right, or it'll be good and you'll be pleasantly surprised.

[The Anti-Saint]

survivor_686 wrote...

In my cycle, building up pointless hype was punishable by death.

In my cycle as well.

[Gruntburner]

StarcloudSWG wrote...

Let's see... it takes two months to pass X-box and PS3 certification. Summer releases are usually June/July/August. That means Extended Cut is coming out August 30th or so, and Bioware has until the end of this month to finish writing, record dialog, develop the cinematics, and polish the whole thing until it's a release candidate.

Let's hope it's more than just Casey and Mac doing the writing this time around. Maybe we'll finally get a decent ending.

Two months? If you are referring to the length of ME3's certification, that doesn't really translate well.  That was for an entire game, not some relatively small ending DLC.  I'd guess it would take a few weeks at most.

[mage110011]

i just want them to explain the half breath scene at the end of the destroy sequence.

[The Angry One]

mage110011 wrote...

i just want them to explain the half breath scene at the end of the destroy sequence.

If you're ManShep, it's Vega under the rubble.
If FemShep, it's Allers.

And now I'm out, lest funny guy over there think I've "run away" from his awesome arguments.

[Clayless]

I was gonna quote the entire thing then I read this part:

The Angry One wrote...

so my response to you is: Blah blah blah blah.

Yeah that pretty much sums it up. A lot of talk with not very much substance and an inability to defend yourself when called out on it.

Catching you out on your accusation of me being a liar pretty much made my night, but because we're completely and utterly derailing the thread here, and you're not going to answer my questions, I guess we'll leave it at that. It'll be a while before we cross paths again anyway because you're barely here anymore too.

[FierceReaper]

That's super, in the meantime I'll be over here waiting for Diablo III to drop.

[alec1898]

FierceReaper wrote...

That's super, in the meantime I'll be over here waiting for Diablo III to drop.

Finding it hard to get excited about games as of late. Do like the look of Far Cry 3, however.

[xsdob]

I predict it will be pushed back into the fall to get everything right.

So august or September release.

[Gaidozman]

I will remain cautiously optimistic... There is still hope for the Indoctrination Theory.

[FierceReaper]

alec1898 wrote...

FierceReaper wrote...

That's super, in the meantime I'll be over here waiting for Diablo III to drop.

Finding it hard to get excited about games as of late. Do like the look of Far Cry 3, however.

Agreed.  Dishonored is looking good, too.

[S0LF]

i don't know anymore.

[Gaidozman]

FierceReaper wrote...

That's super, in the meantime I'll be over here waiting for Diablo III to drop.

No Torchlight II?

[Muhkida]

xsdob wrote...

I predict it will be pushed back into the fall to get everything right.

So august or September release.

Same here, and I wouldn't mind them taking their time on this.

[AxisEvolve]

Optimystic_X wrote...
How so?
It doesn't destroy diversity 

It does. 

There are no longer synthetics or organics. We all merge to become one.

This is interesting for about 5 minutes and then you realize that the diversity has been killed. 

Optimystic_X wrote...
And who decides what the "themes of Mass Effect" are? The writers, or The Angry One?

 
Which writers are we talking about? The lead writer who was there since the first game and walked, or the recently promoted one? 


I don't know why you're even attempting a discussion. Your signature basically says "I am a proud pro-ender and anyone who disagrees with it is a whiner." 

[ShepnTali]

alec1898 wrote...

FierceReaper wrote...

That's super, in the meantime I'll be over here waiting for Diablo III to drop.

Finding it hard to get excited about games as of late. Do like the look of Far Cry 3, however.

Yeah, FC2 had issues, but pretty fun. FC3 could be great with improvements.

[Goaliebot]

I fear the EC will be 12 minutes of cinematics designed solely to beat us in the head with the endings until we're unconscious.

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As for the Joker/Normandy fleeing thing, I can only come up with one plausible theory. And no, the endings don't nearly point to this, it's 99% fan writing, 1% what they provided. But I *think* it could work. Let's just say if I were in charge of the EC, it's what I'd do.

Joker/EDI can't stand not knowing how Shep and the ground crew are faring in the charge at the beam and so as soon as Harbinger lifts off, Joker zooms in in the Normandy. As he arrives, the Reapers shut off the beam to the Citadel, now realizing humans might actually get through it.

Joker finds your two knocked down squadmates and gets them up in the other shuttle (we see 2 shuttles in the bay).

They quickly confer, deciding that they need to get into the Citadel... but the beam is now off. EDI proposes that perhaps the Alliance Forces attack at Earth has drawn the Reapers that were guarding Ilos to Earth to join the battle. She proposes they race to Ilos and see if the Conduit still functions so that Ash/Garrus/whoever might use it to get to the Citadel and both search for Anderson & Shep.

So they weren't running away, they were racing to Ilos in the desperate hope that the Reapers who had been guarding it (thus why they didn't think they could use it before) had come to Earth to join the battle. They knew it was a long shot (could be the Reapers still guarding it, could be the Conduit destroyed, etc) but it's the only chance they have.

... then the space magic hits and stupidity ensues of course. But still - maybe a plausible fan-explanation of why Joker had your squadmates and they were racing away (maybe through a relay, maybe just in FTL)?

[FierceReaper]

Gaidozman wrote...

FierceReaper wrote...

That's super, in the meantime I'll be over here waiting for Diablo III to drop.

No Torchlight II?

It's on the wishlist, but not at the top.

[gosimmons]

The Angry One wrote...

Good speculation: What were the Reapers' true motives? Was it beyond a need for reproduction? How do they really think?

Bad speculation: What the hell happened to... everyone.. everywhere? What just happened? 

It seems BioWare got these two mixed up.

This about sums it up.

[mage110011]

anybody else disappointed that they didn't bring back the hammerhead in this game. i mean they showed it in the "take back earth" trailer and yet Cortez says that the one that Shepard probably was destroyed in the first attack. i just hope they bring it back in a DLC or something.

Modifié par mage110011, 02 mai 2012 - 02:23 .

[chidingewe8036]

Indoctrination Theory or Fail there are no other options!!! If you agree with me fine if you disagree with me fine, but deep down everyone knows that that is Bioware's only hope for the salvation of the series. I just hope they add "THANKS TO THE BIOWARE SOCIAL NETWORK' in the end credits.