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[loungeshep]

Atalanta wrote...

loungeshep wrote...

Yeah that's great and all (I'm not digging through for pages for this answer) But did you ask for a refund, or just get butt-hurt-welfare-entitlement-america on them over a matter of 30 dollars?

See, I say welfare because you mentioned MIchigan, and that's a high welfare state.

I'd stop with the personal attacks now if I were you.

Oh I'm good.

Modifié par loungeshep, 02 mai 2012 - 07:04 .

[Outamyhead]

Wait you knew the game had issues but you spent (I'm guessing as you didn't mention shelling out on the multiplayer DLC to access that) $80, and an additional $30 (you couldn't afford to spend) on DLC you didn't need anyway?

There are so many people dealing with this exact problem (The DLC multiplayer packs) right now, it isn't funny, and it's not just PS3 having issues every platform that ME3 is available on is having the same issue if anything it will become a class action if it is not resolved.

Modifié par Outamyhead, 02 mai 2012 - 07:25 .

[jakal66]

Yeah yeah yeah, put your money where your mouth is and do it!...

[Drake_Hound]

All those people saying good for him help him set up the lawsuit then

Cause nomatter what All I hear is rights this rights that , and no follow up or a win at all !
You know what it get stalled futher down the line , twisted and appealed till people cannot pay it anymore .

So lets see who want to put money to back up the OP ?
Nobody fine so hush it with rights ! or any lawyer want to work for FREE for him ?
Also not then done deal , so keep the rights advice to yourself .

[Mariquis]

In case no one else has said it yet:

OP If you get this message, restart your game, and check your weapons/characters/mods. Myself and a bunch of other people have had this happen, and after restarting our stuff is already in our inventory. If you know what you had beforehand you can pretty easily figure out what you got. (It's easiest if you got a character you didn't have before -- easy to notice!)

You are pretty seriously overreacting though.

[Ukjack44]

It was best what they did to me. I buy points for some ****ing unknown reason just because I want to be a geth, apparently the transaction could not be complete so I did it again....Same message....so I did it again..... They charged me 3 ****ing times. Is this legal..... granted I'm not the most intelligent of people but that is just damn right shady.

[Drake_Hound]

@ukjack44
Go to origin and get the money back , if failing to cut trough the red tape contact the bank , tell them to withdraw 2 previous payment but let last one trough .

If they ban you well even beter , no more need to spent money at all on them in the future .

[Wang Lightning]

Yeah. You actually got everything. The message is glitched, not the transaction.

You still get charged, and you still receive your virtual, make believe cartoon guns. The game just CLAIMS that there was an error. If you restart, and then check out your weapon selection/equipment screens, you'll find that you have new stuff after all.

Also, I feel that I should mention that you're terrible.

[Rolenka]

jimbo32 wrote...

While talking about class-action lawsuits over a $30 charge is a bit silly, I don't see anything wrong with him reporting a fraudulent charge to his credit card provider. Fraud is fraud, and the dollar amount is irrelevant. The fact that he was planning to go to a movie is also irrelevant. Cut the dude some slack - he's obviously upset that he got shafted and EA hasn't done anything about it.

Indeed.

I'm saddened, but not surprised, that this thread is full of people suggesting taking action against fraud is somehow juvenile or a sign of feeling entitled.

"Sure, it was fraudulent, but you should have known better! Don't blame Bioware for you trusting them!"

Aside from a lawsuit and credit card fraud reports, reports to the BBB and FTC can provide pressure on a business to do the right thing.

[shurikenmanta]

Rolenka wrote...

jimbo32 wrote...

While talking about class-action lawsuits over a $30 charge is a bit silly, I don't see anything wrong with him reporting a fraudulent charge to his credit card provider. Fraud is fraud, and the dollar amount is irrelevant. The fact that he was planning to go to a movie is also irrelevant. Cut the dude some slack - he's obviously upset that he got shafted and EA hasn't done anything about it.

Indeed.

I'm saddened, but not surprised, that this thread is full of people suggesting taking action against fraud is somehow juvenile or a sign of feeling entitled.

"Sure, it was fraudulent, but you should have known better! Don't blame Bioware for you trusting them!"

Aside from a lawsuit and credit card fraud reports, reports to the BBB and FTC can provide pressure on a business to do the right thing.

Then do it through the proper channels and don't rant and rave like a halfwit on the interwebs about it screaming LOOK WHAT YOU MADE ME DO BIOWARE!

[wolfstanus]

Bbb make a company do the right thing? Oh I think not.

I bought a $1500 pc. It was wired wrong. Caused $1000 in damages. $100 for me to ship it back $7 for insurance. Got a $1275 refund after calling bbb... Yup Bbb helped out a lot.

[chengthao]

shurikenmanta wrote...

Rolenka wrote...

jimbo32 wrote...

While talking about class-action lawsuits over a $30 charge is a bit silly, I don't see anything wrong with him reporting a fraudulent charge to his credit card provider. Fraud is fraud, and the dollar amount is irrelevant. The fact that he was planning to go to a movie is also irrelevant. Cut the dude some slack - he's obviously upset that he got shafted and EA hasn't done anything about it.

Indeed.

I'm saddened, but not surprised, that this thread is full of people suggesting taking action against fraud is somehow juvenile or a sign of feeling entitled.

"Sure, it was fraudulent, but you should have known better! Don't blame Bioware for you trusting them!"

Aside from a lawsuit and credit card fraud reports, reports to the BBB and FTC can provide pressure on a business to do the right thing.

Then do it through the proper channels and don't rant and rave like a halfwit on the interwebs about it screaming LOOK WHAT YOU MADE ME DO BIOWARE!

well according to the OP, he's doing both

[shurikenmanta]

chengthao wrote...

shurikenmanta wrote...

Rolenka wrote...

jimbo32 wrote...

While talking about class-action lawsuits over a $30 charge is a bit silly, I don't see anything wrong with him reporting a fraudulent charge to his credit card provider. Fraud is fraud, and the dollar amount is irrelevant. The fact that he was planning to go to a movie is also irrelevant. Cut the dude some slack - he's obviously upset that he got shafted and EA hasn't done anything about it.

Indeed.

I'm saddened, but not surprised, that this thread is full of people suggesting taking action against fraud is somehow juvenile or a sign of feeling entitled.

"Sure, it was fraudulent, but you should have known better! Don't blame Bioware for you trusting them!"

Aside from a lawsuit and credit card fraud reports, reports to the BBB and FTC can provide pressure on a business to do the right thing.

Then do it through the proper channels and don't rant and rave like a halfwit on the interwebs about it screaming LOOK WHAT YOU MADE ME DO BIOWARE!

well according to the OP, he's doing both

Let's put it this way. If he's handling his pursuit in the same manner he's airing his rage here, I don't think he's going about it properly.

Contact the relevant people. Explain yourself rationally and politely (that means you DON'T start screaming about stealing money and screwing you over and that sort of things). If they can't help you, ask politely to speak to their supervisor. Escalate as far as possible. Exhaust all internal possibilities. Then talk to the relevant governing bodies to see if they can offer assistance.

Then, and only then, can you start raging about lawyers without looking like a vindictive douche.

[wolfstanus]

Sue ea... Ea says you got the items... They have proof in records. They want their money... They counter sue because the have layers on their payroll who get paid no matter what they do. GG.

Or ms sues because it was THEIR money not ea. you paid ms not ea/bioware.

Or bioware sues you because it was their money not EAs.

Or you stay banned because... U no smart.

[Father_Jerusalem]

The simple fact of the matter is, his complaint is against Sony. They're the ones who banned him from the PSN.

So... why is he ranting and raving on a BioWare message board?

If any of you anti-BioWare people who are so quick to jump to the aid of anyone who wants to tear BioWare down can explain how THAT makes any sense, I'll go ahead and concede the point.

[CavemanRaveman]

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

The simple fact of the matter is, his complaint is against Sony. They're the ones who banned him from the PSN.

So... why is he ranting and raving on a BioWare message board?

If any of you anti-BioWare people who are so quick to jump to the aid of anyone who wants to tear BioWare down can explain how THAT makes any sense, I'll go ahead and concede the point.

we already went over this.  even though his money for the packs was returned to him, bioware DID take it from him, and couldnt reimburse him in a timely manner.

bioware STILL allows real money purchases for packs even though they have known about this bug for awhile (it happens frequently with credits).  not only do they keep the system up, but they dont respond to people's claims in a timely manner, or even alert gamers of this bugginess.

[Father_Jerusalem]

CavemanRaveman wrote...

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

The simple fact of the matter is, his complaint is against Sony. They're the ones who banned him from the PSN.

So... why is he ranting and raving on a BioWare message board?

If any of you anti-BioWare people who are so quick to jump to the aid of anyone who wants to tear BioWare down can explain how THAT makes any sense, I'll go ahead and concede the point.

we already went over this.  even though his money for the packs was returned to him, bioware DID take it from him, and couldnt reimburse him in a timely manner.

bioware STILL allows real money purchases for packs even though they have known about this bug for awhile (it happens frequently with credits).  not only do they keep the system up, but they dont respond to people's claims in a timely manner, or even alert gamers of this bugginess.

He did a chargeback and got his money back. His issue is not with BioWare. It is with Sony for banning him from PSN.

Next.

[Gatt9]

wolfstanus wrote...

Bbb make a company do the right thing? Oh I think not.

I bought a $1500 pc. It was wired wrong. Caused $1000 in damages. $100 for me to ship it back $7 for insurance. Got a $1275 refund after calling bbb... Yup Bbb helped out a lot.

I'm going to have to call shennagins on this one.  It's physically impossible to "Wire a PC" wrong,  the connectors are all mutually exclusive.  You physically cannot plug the wrong connectors in.  The jumpers on the motherboard are insignificant,  they cannot cause damage.

They most certainly cannot cause $1000 in damages,  even if it were possible,  all that would happen is the power supply would fry itself.

There was a time when you could "Wire a pc wrong",  but I'm not going to post when,  because I strongly suspect the quoted poster won't be able to identify what generation could be wired wrong and why.

The poster also neglects to mention that mail fraud charges would've applied to his case.  Nor the fact that he could've contested the $1500 charge.  Nor the fact that he could've filed in small claims court in his area.

Don't even get me started on the $100 for shipping,  I bought a hood for a car and it barely cost me that much in freight.

@Father Jeruseleum

Good to see you're still working the lawsuit/BBB threads to make sure any danger of lawsuit for false advertising is stamped out.

[CavemanRaveman]

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

CavemanRaveman wrote...

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

The simple fact of the matter is, his complaint is against Sony. They're the ones who banned him from the PSN.

So... why is he ranting and raving on a BioWare message board?

If any of you anti-BioWare people who are so quick to jump to the aid of anyone who wants to tear BioWare down can explain how THAT makes any sense, I'll go ahead and concede the point.

we already went over this.  even though his money for the packs was returned to him, bioware DID take it from him, and couldnt reimburse him in a timely manner.

bioware STILL allows real money purchases for packs even though they have known about this bug for awhile (it happens frequently with credits).  not only do they keep the system up, but they dont respond to people's claims in a timely manner, or even alert gamers of this bugginess.

He did a chargeback and got his money back. His issue is not with BioWare. It is with Sony for banning him from PSN.

Next.

his issue is with whoever he wants it to be with, go away fanboy.

[jsamlaw]

I'm just glad the OP doesn't have kids and would rather spend his disposable income on frivolous lawsuits rather than on his kids. At least the nonsense will stop with him.

[DonYourAviators]

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

DonYourAviators wrote...

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

DonYourAviators wrote...

Father_Jerusalem 

If you want people to take you seriously, be a serious person. That's all.

classic Father Jerusalem. Sees thread, doesn't read, defends BioWare till death, finishes with a hilariously backwards one liner.

classic person I don't know. Ignores points made that counter his position, calls out other posters personally, tries to be snarky, fails.

I never ignore legitimate points. OP never got their money back. BioWare has done nothing to fix the problem or warn players willing to invest in them. You think it's fair that the OP should have all PS3 privileges removed because they paid for an in game service they were not provided with? Do you think this is legal? Morally justifiable? Of course you do, and I doubt even a car analogy will change your mind.

Chargeback gets your money back. Just so you know. BioWare is working on the problem, and the problem is well-known enough that people are aware of it - regardless of whether or not BioWare has said it, as noted here: http://social.biowar.../index/10047618

The OP broke the EULA that he agreed to when he got his PS3 by getting a chargeback. Is it legal of Sony to lock him out? Absolutely. Is it morally justifable? Please, tell me where I said that it is. Because I haven't said that. I simply said Sony has the right to do that, and if the OP wants to complain, he should be complaining to Sony.

Now that I've held your hand through this twice, I'm not going to bother with you anymore.

Have a lovely day.

Your selective reading is as tiring as always. You just linked me a 48 page thread, created a month ago about the most serious bug in the entire ME trilogy. The problem is still ongoing, and you linked it to try to convince me that everyone must be aware of this problem purely because it exists? All you've done is prove how ridiculous this is.


When there was a bug that allowed people to recieve free packs, BioWare pulled those packs immediately. When there's a bug where you purchase a pack, then don't recieve it but still lose your money, BioWare chills out, as evidenced by that very thread you linked. Thank you for that.

"Burr, this is a Sony problem." ****** off with that. The problem started with BioWare, and if they were respectable, it would have ended with BioWare. The only thing you hold in your hand is your crotch as you honourably defend BioWare in the most ridiculous situations.

As much as you want this to be about Sony, this is the important part in the OP. Sony is only mentioned in passing.

zartanyen wrote...

You knowingly and willingly put out a broken product with a issue know for taking peoples money and not giving them anything in return, thats fraud, and seeing as you affected more then 3 people thats grounds for a class action lawsuit but I do not need to wait for that and will just file the paperwork on you myself ( I mean the law firm that representes me will) and see how you respond to that.

 

Modifié par DonYourAviators, 03 mai 2012 - 02:28 .

[Kaelef]

His issue is with his parents for raising him so poorly.

[AkiKishi]

The whole pack thing is very iffy because they are not selling a product, they are selling a lottery ticket.
That's a whole other set of rules and regulations.

[urborg74]

Some of the responses are as pointless as the original post.

I think it would have been more than sufficient to simply explain what happened and to warn other people not to spend money buying packs...the lost revenue from that alone would have been sufficient "revenge" for the wrongdoing. That huge rant about legal blah blah totally killed any ill will toward Bioware that you could have created. You sir, have failed.

[elecmanexe001]

I have to wonder, did you actually close out of the transaction after it didn't download? At first I didn't realize the system forked like this(To mention I play on xbox), after making the purchase the game will take your money and then not download, presumably. Scared me at first but after backing out the pack immediately downloaded and appeared before me. If you are on PS3 it may function similarly but require you to back out further, as has been suggested restarting and checking your inventory for the items to have appeared (Not getting a little scene to show you what you got because the system is a bit wonky).