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[Daennikus]

DiebytheSword wrote...

As a Christian, I believe the soul is immortal and departs for "judgement" myself.

Those who want to be close to God will be, those who do not won't be. I'm not sure I believe in hell though, that seems to be more of a concoction to keep people in line.

As an atheist, I don't think about my after-life. 

I did spend a lot of time reading about ghosts, near-death experiences, out-of-body experiences, reincarnation, the concept of heaven and hell, parallel dimensions... Once, I even came up with the idea that we're an energy-based alien species that use any type of biological form to gain experience and move to the next, climbing up the ladder of evolution and jumping from a galaxy to another, sort of "reaping life-points" to grow and progress. 

But the truth for me is that these things will matter once I've given my last breath. For now, I'm far more focused on the living.

Edit: 
DiebytheSword, don't reply to this because I am in no way trying to antagonize your post, I just felt like writing my opinion in parallel to yours.

Modifié par Daennikus, 02 mai 2012 - 07:44 .

[b2smooth]

Judgement

[Naughty Bear]

Nothing. Heaven and hell are just fictional locations.

I honestly believe it must of been created by the mentally insane, they did believe in witches and sorcery after all back then so it must be all superstitious crap.

Just completely illogical.

[DiebytheSword]

Daennikus wrote...

DiebytheSword wrote...

As a Christian, I believe the soul is immortal and departs for "judgement" myself.

Those who want to be close to God will be, those who do not won't be. I'm not sure I believe in hell though, that seems to be more of a concoction to keep people in line.

As an atheist, I don't think about my after-life. 

I did spend a lot of time reading about ghosts, near-death experiences, out-of-body experiences, reincarnation, the concept of heaven and hell, parallel dimensions... Once, I even came up with the idea that we're an energy-based alien species that use any type of biological form to gain experience and move to the next, climbing up the ladder of evolution and jumping from a galaxy to another, sort of "reaping life-points" to grow and progress. 

But the truth for me is that these things will matter once I've given my last breath. For now, I'm far more focused on the living.

Edit: 
DiebytheSword, don't reply to this because I am in no way trying to antagonize your post, I just felt like writing my opinion in parallel to yours.

You assume that I plan on assaulting your chosen values and beliefs, I assure you I am not that kind of Christian.  I didn't take your post as antagonization, rather just what it was: statement of belief.

Rather, I would like to discuss some, and not challenge what you've written.

I think its rather wise that you focus on this life, and not a possibility of a next.  I tend to not think of a coming reward when I behave inside of my morals.  I think along the lines that being nice and trying to see things from others' point of view makes for a better world regardless of belief or dogma.

Interesting that you should mention the soul as alien, I've toodled with the idea that by his very definition as a non-human intelligence, God is an alien, in a manner of speaking of course.

I've been raised to always question everything, even the Church I was made to attend.  I'm a bit of an odd duck as a Christian because of it.  I do not accept dogma, I challenge it at every turn, and I'm satisfied that I'll probably die not knowing any of the answers for certain.

[Naughty Bear]

Logan Cloud wrote...

Naughty Bear wrote...

Nothing. Heaven and hell are just fictional locations.

I honestly believe it must of been created by the mentally insane, they did believe in witches and sorcery after all back then so it must be all superstitious crap.

Just completely illogical.

Bashing religion are we? How wonderful.

Actually no, i just can not think that way, i really can not wrap my head on how it works and on how people would believe in it.

I am a science person and i believe that everything can be answered logically.

I'm not a hater of religion. I don't care what you believe in, who you are, age, sex, nationality what ever.

It is just...strange. Not in a bad way, i can't explain it, perhaps you got to be a believer to understand, i doubt i would ever know the answer to it.

Like i said, i prefer to stick with science.

[billy the squid]

We live, we love, we die. I don't think about it, what we do now matters not after, so just enjoy life.

[Naughty Bear]

DieByTheSword is happy with not knowing all the answers, i want to know the answers, i want to know how this all works, get the answers/keys to the universe.

If i could gain all that knowledge, i would do anything to obtain it.

So much knowledge and so much to learn and it is a sad fact i will die not knowing even half the answers.

Modifié par Naughty Bear, 02 mai 2012 - 08:33 .

[Naughty Bear]

billy the squid wrote...

We live, we love, we die. I don't think about it, what we do now matters not after, so just enjoy life.

No, both are important, infact the future is more important. The actions you do and the consequences of your actions all need to be considered and analysed.

Modifié par Naughty Bear, 02 mai 2012 - 08:36 .

[LuvPoison]

WE ALL GO TO HELL!!!!!!!!D:

Hell in Geek means the ground. when we die, we get buried, so we all go to hell:P

[Sigma Tauri]

Naughty Bear wrote...
I honestly believe it must of been created by the mentally insane, they did believe in witches and sorcery after all back then so it must be all superstitious crap.

Scrutinize your own belief.

Because all that stuff...mentally insane people don't create it.

[Naughty Bear]

monkeycamoran wrote...

Naughty Bear wrote...
I honestly believe it must of been created by the mentally insane, they did believe in witches and sorcery after all back then so it must be all superstitious crap.

Scrutinize your own belief.

Because all that stuff...mentally insane people don't create it.

I'm going to becareful what i say as i wish to avoid a warning or a ban and i apologise for that comment. Everyone has a right to live their own lives and believe in what they want to believe.

[Sigma Tauri]

Naughty Bear wrote...

monkeycamoran wrote...

Naughty Bear wrote...
I honestly believe it must of been created by the mentally insane, they did believe in witches and sorcery after all back then so it must be all superstitious crap.

Scrutinize your own belief.

Because all that stuff...mentally insane people don't create it.

I'm going to becareful what i say as i wish to avoid a warning or a ban and i apologise for that comment. Everyone has a right to live their own lives and believe in what they want to believe.

I believe you on that right.

I don't believe however you took a logical position on why people believe the way they are. Of course, afterlife mythologies are created by fancy narratives. They were never scientific explanations of the universe, and you wonder why people still continue to hold onto those beliefs despite our modern understanding of cosmology? There is a understandable context to those beliefs, built on something general as tradition and culture spanning thousands of years down to the individual experience. Maybe, just maybe, I'm saying to be open-minded about it. That is an unfair statement.

[Naughty Bear]

monkeycamoran wrote...

Naughty Bear wrote...

monkeycamoran wrote...

Naughty Bear wrote...
I honestly believe it must of been created by the mentally insane, they did believe in witches and sorcery after all back then so it must be all superstitious crap.

Scrutinize your own belief.

Because all that stuff...mentally insane people don't create it.

I'm going to becareful what i say as i wish to avoid a warning or a ban and i apologise for that comment. Everyone has a right to live their own lives and believe in what they want to believe.

I believe you on that right.

I don't believe however you took a logical position on why people believe the way they are. Of course, afterlife mythologies are created by fancy narratives. They were never scientific explanations of the universe, and you wonder why people still continue to hold onto those beliefs despite our modern understanding of cosmology? There is a understandable context to those beliefs, built on something general as tradition and culture spanning thousands of years down to the individual experience. Maybe, just maybe, I'm saying to be open-minded about it. That is an unfair statement.

I am open minded, but i still don't understand how people can believe in religion, like i said, perhaps i am not a believe and i will never know or why on how it works and what makes people believe in religion.

Don't people see how far technology could take us? If mind uploading was real, we would become invincible, with genetics we can create life, destroy life and modify life for the better, with technology we can visit the stars and make it ours.

I would go into more detail but if i actually gave my opinion, i would come of as extremely cynical and possibly hateful.

Science and technology advancements have shown that anyone can play 'god'. I am more inclined to believe this 'god' is possibly of extra-terrestrial origin, thats if we were created.

I don't mean to sound nasty or hateful but people who are religious to the bone prevent us from this, ethics would come in, the playing god arguement would be used.

But religion and morality can prevent us from becoming monsters. I guess.

Modifié par Naughty Bear, 02 mai 2012 - 09:07 .

[Hathur]

Not sure if it's been said yet... but when you die, you void your bowels 

Nobody gets to die "gracefully" 

[Capt. Obvious]

As an atheist, I believe that when we die that's it. There is no Heaven or Hell. Our consciousness stops existing.

Modifié par Capt. Obvious, 02 mai 2012 - 09:19 .

[Naughty Bear]

Capt. Obvious wrote...

As an athiest, I believe that when we die that's it. There is no Heaven or Hell. Our consciousness stops existing.

That is such a strange fate. One that awaits us all, our final destination. Just an abyss of darkness for us athiests anyway.

[Ravensword]

Capt. Obvious wrote...

As an atheist, I believe that when we die that's it. There is no Heaven or Hell. Our consciousness stops existing.

Which is why lots of people choose to believe in absurdities.

[Gorthaur the Cruel]

I'm not the most religious or even spiritual person around. But I think I prefer to think that there is something after life. A place where our souls go to rest, or something similar to that. If believing in that is an absurdity then I couldn't care less.

[termokanden]

greengoron89 wrote...

A funeral.

If anyone cares about you. I have this odd feeling my death will not be particularly ceremonious 

Seriously though, I don't believe anything unusual happens. You're dead. But at least you will never be rickrolled again.

Modifié par termokanden, 02 mai 2012 - 09:46 .

[Fishy]

Fornication with goddess of course for the rest of eternity and drinking strong alcohol, good wine.

To be honest I will probably die alone in a crappy appartment and discovered 8 week after by my landlord worrying about his rent. Than they will throw my corpse empy of life into the incinerator and move on..

The end .

But but .. My body will become smoke and i will **** someone else lung ... MOUHAHAHAHAHA

Modifié par Suprez30, 02 mai 2012 - 10:08 .

[Chromie]

Come let's start a flamewar on each others religion already.

[DiebytheSword]

Hathur wrote...

Not sure if it's been said yet... but when you die, you void your bowels 

Nobody gets to die "gracefully" 

You're full of it

I kid, I kid.