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[RedTail F22]

As an option yes. But if I work hard enough I should be able to make it through alive. It is Mass Effect after all and having variations is important. Also, making it possible for Shepard to die makes getting through alive even more rewarding.

[ShepnTali]

Shepard must live and have more sex. It's what he does.

[chemiclord]

Am I okay with him/her dying? Sure.

Do I think he/she HAS to? No.

Modifié par chemiclord, 02 mai 2012 - 06:55 .

[Aweus]

The question is not that simple.
Am I OK with it? No.
Do I think it is a fitting ending? Yes.
Do I think he/she should always die/live? No. There should be many outcomes as consequences of our choices.

The problem with current endings is that assuming I would like my Shep to make a sacrifice there really is no such option. You get beamed by a Harbinger and then a Starchild gives you 4 choices: A) die from electric charge; die from space magic beam C) die from explosion; D) do nothing and die from explosion.

Modifié par Aweus, 02 mai 2012 - 06:56 .

[zambingo]

My Sheps always live, but that isn't because they must live. Being prepared and choosing Destroy is the only option for me and my Sheps, no mater what personality type I played them as. The chips must fall where they will. Edit in: As far as I can tell Shepard is never in a position where Shep can be worried about "what if this" or "what if that". There is a job to do, not an accord to come to. The Reapers must be destroyed or Life won't have a chance to ask the "what now" questions.

Modifié par zambingo, 02 mai 2012 - 07:21 .

[Eterna]

People actually expected their shepard to survive at the end? I was surprised we even got the breath scene.

[Oldbones2]

TGSP wrote...

Oldbones2 wrote...
Do you remember the expectations for when Bioware started asking for ideas for an ending DLC?  (I'll give you a hint, most people said something to the effect of NO START CHILD)

Did not know this, I assume this was before the whole "we won't change it cause it'll compromise our artistic integrity." 

It was during the we are collecting feedback about the ending, before we make any decisions phase.

[Oldbones2]

kyg_20X6 wrote...

Oldbones2 wrote...

*snip*

I have no idea what you're talking about or why your tone seems to indicate you're angry with me.

Well, I think it's kinda obvious what I'm talking about, Bioware ignoring fans is pretty standard fare for the past few months.


However I do sincerely apologize for my tone, I'm tired and under some stress from work.  Shouldn't take it out on you.

[Xandurpein]

I'm ok with Shepard dying, if the circumstances makes sense. The way the game presented it, it only made sense to me that Shepard had to die in only the blue ending. It makes sense to me that Shepard has to "die" so his mind can be uploaded onto a Reaper, which is what the scene implies. It makes no sense that the Crucible has to consume his body to fire the green beam and it makes no sense that Shepard just walks into the exploding tube in the Red ending. I don't mind Shepard dying, as long as he doesn't die senselessly.

Modifié par Xandurpein, 02 mai 2012 - 07:30 .

[wright1978]

As long as Shep living is an option too i don't mind there being the option of him/her dying.

[Nonoru]

I don't as long as it makes sense.

[kyg_20X6]

Oldbones2 wrote...


Well, I think it's kinda obvious what I'm talking about, Bioware ignoring fans is pretty standard fare for the past few months.


However I do sincerely apologize for my tone, I'm tired and under some stress from work.  Shouldn't take it out on you.

No worries about the tone, I understand.

And I get what you mean about BioWare breaking promises and many fans wanting a completely different ending. I too would like a different ending but I do think that's unreasonable to ask. I do think asking for things that we all expected, and were led to expect, like: our war assets mattering; satisfying closure on our relationships; to know what happened post-war; explanations for weird scenes, etc, that were missing and don't conflict with what we got, are perfectly reasonable. All those things should be in the game and hopefully the EC will restore them, or at least most of them. And they don't effect BW's Starchild resolution to the war.

I think we can compromise but I do understand the people who don't want to. It all comes from the same place: or love for ME, Shepard and the characters.

[xsdob]

I'm okay with it, if that's how the makers thought the trilogy should end than okay.

Modifié par xsdob, 02 mai 2012 - 07:44 .

[nitefyre410]

OMG - how many times to be people have to answer this question... as an option and outcome in one of multiple endings... its fine.

[ScooterPie88]

An option to have him live would be nice. Similar to ME2 if you made good choices Shepard (and company) lived. That's back when choices actually mattered though.

[Mad-Hamlet]

**** no.

It's the Campbellian Hero's Journey crap. Campbell himself was a genius and did amazing work but because of his discoveries into myth and the human aspect a lot of storytellers are embracing this ideas and essentially putting on blinders either in homage or out of laziness.

Ie. I want to create epic. Make hero, hero dies in truimph. IS NEW LEGEND!! RRRAARRRR!!

Excuse me while I go throw the hell up.

[CapnManx]

To accommodate all the different play styles, Shepard was made such an 'every person' that I just don't find him/her very interesting. So yes, I'm OK with it.

[Oldbones2]

kyg_20X6 wrote...

Oldbones2 wrote...


Well, I think it's kinda obvious what I'm talking about, Bioware ignoring fans is pretty standard fare for the past few months.


However I do sincerely apologize for my tone, I'm tired and under some stress from work.  Shouldn't take it out on you.

No worries about the tone, I understand.

And I get what you mean about BioWare breaking promises and many fans wanting a completely different ending. I too would like a different ending but I do think that's unreasonable to ask. I do think asking for things that we all expected, and were led to expect, like: our war assets mattering; satisfying closure on our relationships; to know what happened post-war; explanations for weird scenes, etc, that were missing and don't conflict with what we got, are perfectly reasonable. All those things should be in the game and hopefully the EC will restore them, or at least most of them. And they don't effect BW's Starchild resolution to the war.

I think we can compromise but I do understand the people who don't want to. It all comes from the same place: or love for ME, Shepard and the characters.

Yeah that's it exactly.

I really just want the closure they promised us.  Although some options that they promised would be nice too.

Anyway, as much as I hate Star Child, I could live with him, as long as they could work a decent ending around him. 

Though how they'll manage that with just clarity and closure is beyond my imagining.

[nitefyre410]

I1 Trust wrote...

No.

I expected it to happen but I can't take Shepard's death seriously. Why?

There are multiple reasons, but the main one is that Shepard already died in ME2. Quite literally.

This is what cheapened the suicide mission, it also cheapened Shepard's struggle and heroic sacrifice in ME3.

 

^  Ding.. we have a winner folks  

[Robhuzz]

RedTail F22 wrote...

As an option yes. But if I work hard enough I should be able to make it through alive. It is Mass Effect after all and having variations is important. Also, making it possible for Shepard to die makes getting through alive even more rewarding.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

I1 Trust wrote...

No.

I expected it to happen but I can't take Shepard's death seriously. Why?

There are multiple reasons, but the main one is that Shepard already died in ME2. Quite literally.

This is what cheapened the suicide mission, it also cheapened Shepard's struggle and heroic sacrifice in ME3.

Another reason why I dislike ME2's intro.

[nitefyre410]

Lizardviking wrote...

I1 Trust wrote...

No.

I expected it to happen but I can't take Shepard's death seriously. Why?

There are multiple reasons, but the main one is that Shepard already died in ME2. Quite literally.

This is what cheapened the suicide mission, it also cheapened Shepard's struggle and heroic sacrifice in ME3.

Another reason why I dislike ME2's intro.

  

Besides the fact that is  the  lamest excuse for and the lamest time skip  I have ever seen... I would have to agree. 

[Srau]

Doesn't matter to me, either way.
In fact it should be situational and should depend on how the events folded based on the choices you made along the trilogy.
So basically it should be in game player choice.

Modifié par Srau, 02 mai 2012 - 08:53 .

[hawat333]

Yarp. At the end of the trilogy it is needed. An ultimate sacrifice to defeat the Reapers. That's what makes him or her a hero and not just a lucky marine.