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[Elystia]

Sten seems to be the only one of my companions that gets hurt a lot.
Could someone post how they set him up? Like in the tactics menu or armor sets?
I keep him on the defend and attack Allister's enemy, but they STILL go after Sten and it probably has to do with doing more damage then Allister. I also have him at 50% health take a potion..but he goes down pretty fast.

I just don't like taking him out, because of that.

*Looks down at Sten flat on his back*

"Sten..Dangit! I can't take you anywhere!"

[Elystia]

Ah yes...I didn't think about giving Sten more dex due to his nature. I always just allowed him the strength he needed. This could be useful

[asaiasai]

I when i do not tank let Allister tank and use Sten as a 2H dps warrior. I have Sten set to hit what ever target Allister is on he also has no threat generatig buffs, only Allister has those activated.



Also as has been said by a previous poster dexterity is never a bad stat to have on either Sten or Allister or even you if you choose to be the tank. I ideally i ususally assign the stats something like this 2 points strength one point dex until you have the sufficient strength to wear the armor your looking at. Then i do dex 2 to con 1 until dex is around 30ish. then pile on con with a few sprinkled into the other categories.



Asai

[sinosleep]

My advice would be the following, put him in medium armor. Why? Because if your tank is doing his job, Sten's armor rating won't matter, secondly the heavier armor he wears, the more fatigue he has, the smaller his stamina pool gets, and the less specials you can unleash. This is very very bad for the 2 hander warrior since specials are the only things that make a 2 hander warrior any good. Without them their attack speed is way to slow and their dps is crap. Third, mobs automatically go after the character with the most armor, if Sten and your tank are wearing the same level armor, mobs are just as likely to go after Sten as they are to go after your tank, not the case when you are a level of armor below your tank.



Then, go down the sunder arms/armor tree first. Sunder arms/armor bother swing the weapon twice, and both hits can crit. This can result in MASSIVE damage if your crit rate is good, which it will be if you do yourself a favor and do the sacred urn quest as early as possible to get yourself a tier 6 axe at low level.



Don't run any sustainable abilities other than precise striking. If your tank is doing their job, none of the other sustainables are needed cause they're either defensive, or just flat out suck like powerful blows. Precise striking is a must though, not only does it add to attack, it scales your crit rate as you level, which will result in those massive sunder arms/armor specials at later levels.



Lastly after going down the sunder arms/armor tree I'd suggest getting stunning blows because it's a great passive ability. Makes it so that any of your strikes can result in stunning the enemy, yay for extra crowd control.



Oh, and pump strength like nobody's business. Again, if your tank is doing their job, Sten needs neither dex nor con. What he needs is strength (for damage and hit rate) and will (for constantly getting off specials which will vastly improve attack speed).

[originalSabZero]

Sten starts with really low consitution. That and dexterity are things to bring up ASAP in my opinion.

[nuculerman]

 I don't know.  Sten compliments my DW warrior extremely well.  He's much more of a glass cannon than Ohgren, but if you put him in massive armor he can still off tank like a mother.  I like to put him in Juggernaut and give him the Berserker tree and the whole 2h tree.  I put everything in strength.  My DW stays in threaten and Sten almost never draws enemies off my DW warrior.  Morrigan with death hex, Sten with sundering, and my DW warrior with flurry followed by perfect striking makes all boss fights trivial.  They go down fast.  Really fast.

Though putting Sten in medium or heavy armor would help his damage output, it means I can't ever use him as an offtank, which I find extremely helpful.  In fact, I had him tank the high dragon on nightmare instead of allistair because Allistair's damage is so craptacular.  So it was Sten in threaten with Juggernaut, heroic defense, regeneration, indomitable and a greater warmth balm, my DW warrior in Legion, heroic offense and perfect striking.  Morrigan spamming hexes and elemental damage, and Wynne keeping cleansing aura, vessel of the spirit and haste up, healing Sten and my DW warrior.  Worked pretty well that way.  Only Sten died, and at that point the dragon was at 1/10 of its original health.

Modifié par nuculerman, 08 décembre 2009 - 11:08 .

[nuculerman]

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Modifié par nuculerman, 08 décembre 2009 - 11:07 .

[Loc'n'lol]

Don't bother with dexterity. Or constitution for that matter (well, you could give him a bit of CON so he does not get 1-shot, but that's it). He's just not a tank and never will be. If you raise his dex at the expense of strength, he'll end up much worse than a shield warrior both at all aspects of tanking and dealing damage.

[OneBadAssMother]

Varathorns armor is great for 2handers I found, scale silverite gloves and boots of diligence, u look rather sparkly too, decent protection and fatigue.

[menasure]

_Loc_N_lol_ wrote...

Don't bother with dexterity. Or constitution for that matter (well, you could give him a bit of CON so he does not get 1-shot, but that's it). He's just not a tank and never will be. If you raise his dex at the expense of strength, he'll end up much worse than a shield warrior both at all aspects of tanking and dealing damage.

Sten is pretty decent if you decide to stick him in the best possible armor and give him a shield ... i did that even without resetting his 2H tree. when tanking with humanoids you need the strength to be able to use the gear more than anything and Sten has strength from the start so it is easier to gear him up fast.

i pretty much agree on the rest though.

specials like shale and dog are more benefited from con and as for dex: it is kind of dual edged choice currently because it does increase your defense but it is bugged for damage by itself. you can make up for that in dex characters because of their weapon speeds and damage enhancements but i would not exagerate with dex on a strength based character because it will gimp their damage and armor use more than anything. things might be different when you use the unufficial dex fix or after an official patch comes out though.

[Vaeliorin]

_Loc_N_lol_ wrote...
He's just not a tank and never will be.

This isn't really true.  I have him tanking in my current playthrough, and he does a fine job.  It's me (AW/SH), Zevran (Assassin/Duelist), Morrigan (SS/SH), and Sten (Champion...though I'm not using Rally because of the bug).  I'm doing a no injuries playthrough, and I haven't really had to reload that often.  He does a fine job of tanking, and I really haven't been using that much CC (an occasional CoC, but not even every fight, and almost never more than once a fight.)  Doing this on hard, too.

I've currently got him wearing Wade's Superior Dragonbone Plate, simply because I haven't gotten the Legion of the Dead armor yet (I'm currently doing the Deep Roads, and I've done everything else except the Back Alleys in Denerim), and my character is wearing the Warden Commander's armor.

It might be a bit tough if I didn't have an overabundance of healing, but everything dies so fast (dual-wielding rogues are ridiculous...this is my first time using anyone dual-wielding, and the damage they do is absurd) that even with only one healer I'd probably be okay.

[alexandros777]

I find two handers start slow but pick up towards the end when there are more CC type talents in the rest of your party and the 2h wielder has most of the 2h talents.

[sinosleep]

menasure wrote...

_Loc_N_lol_ wrote...

Don't bother with dexterity. Or constitution for that matter (well, you could give him a bit of CON so he does not get 1-shot, but that's it). He's just not a tank and never will be. If you raise his dex at the expense of strength, he'll end up much worse than a shield warrior both at all aspects of tanking and dealing damage.

Sten is pretty decent if you decide to stick him in the best possible armor and give him a shield ... i did that even without resetting his 2H tree. when tanking with humanoids you need the strength to be able to use the gear more than anything and Sten has strength from the start so it is easier to gear him up fast.

i pretty much agree on the rest though.

specials like shale and dog are more benefited from con and as for dex: it is kind of dual edged choice currently because it does increase your defense but it is bugged for damage by itself. you can make up for that in dex characters because of their weapon speeds and damage enhancements but i would not exagerate with dex on a strength based character because it will gimp their damage and armor use more than anything. things might be different when you use the unufficial dex fix or after an official patch comes out though.

I don't think she means he can't be servicible, just that it's kind of a waste to take him away from his strengths and force him a role he clearly wasn't designed for. Sten makes a far more competent dps warrior than he does a tank.

[taxtell]

Disengage helps a lot!

[Bryy_Miller]

originalSabZero wrote...

Sten starts with really low consitution.

This.

[Elystia]

Wow..thanks for everyones help on this. I'll have to carefully consider some armor & stat choices ..

There's a lot of good input here..