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[prazision]

Jsxdf wrote...

not interested in multiplayer content. i will not pay for something i will not be able to play/access when EA shuts down the servers. its a waste of money.

Lookit this guy over here.  He's figured out that VIDEO GAMES are a WASTE OF MONEY!  You just blew my mind.

edit: Also, this leak actually has been confirmed to be true, sorry to break it to y'all.

Modifié par prazision, 02 mai 2012 - 06:20 .

[abaris]

Berkilak wrote...

I've seen it here and there. Never as prevalent as here, however.

Believe me, I've seen it quite frequently. Especially when it comes to tv shows. Sometimes I even thought about stalkers in the making.

[Berkilak]

abaris wrote...

Berkilak wrote...

I've seen it here and there. Never as prevalent as here, however.

Believe me, I've seen it quite frequently. Especially when it comes to tv shows. Sometimes I even thought about stalkers in the making.

It's not that I haven't seen it elsewhere. I just think that BioWare games are more apt to "create" those false relationships because BioWare actually gives you a false relationship to take a part in. TV shows, sure, you can get a crush on a character. But you cannot "directly" interact with them as you can here. That false sense of intimicy gives a lot of people something they aren't getting elsewhere.

[abaris]

Berkilak wrote...

It's not that I haven't seen it elsewhere. I just think that BioWare games are more apt to "create" those false relationships because BioWare actually gives you a false relationship to take a part in. TV shows, sure, you can get a crush on a character. But you cannot "directly" interact with them as you can here. That false sense of intimicy gives a lot of people something they aren't getting elsewhere.

Yeah, you have a point.

Whilst typing my earlier reply I had the same thought.

[D3SM0ND0]

What the point in bringing out more map packs when all any one ever does is go on the same 2 or 3 maps and grind the bejeezus out of them. Finally capitulated and gave mp a whirl and was quickly bored of it, playing the same maps over and over

[Pkxm]

prazision wrote...

Jsxdf wrote...

not interested in multiplayer content. i will not pay for something i will not be able to play/access when EA shuts down the servers. its a waste of money.

Lookit this guy over here.  He's figured out that VIDEO GAMES are a WASTE OF MONEY!  You just blew my mind.

edit: Also, this leak actually has been confirmed to be true, sorry to break it to y'all.

i can still play quake, and any expansion packs. i can still play quake multiplayer. that is a 16 year old game.

you
will not be able to play me3 multiplayer in 16 years. you probably wont
even be able to play it in 3. any content you purchase for multiplayer
will only be able to be played for the duration EA says you can play it.
which will probably end up being only a couple years because they control the servers.

no user created/ran dedicated servers, no lan support is a bad thing. that screws the paying customer over in the long run. so any multiplayer content you purchase for me3 will be a total waste if you cannot access it after a certain time. and considering the multiplayer for me3 is tied into the single player, that can screw over sp as well.

you may retort with "LOL WHO WOULD PLAY ME3 16 YEARS FROM NOW".
many people. ones who payed 80 dollars for it. ones who purchased a
product, like the game, enjoy it, and would want to play it again every
now and then. people still play older games because they enjoy them.

im not saying video games are a waste of money. they are not. im saying they are a waste of money if you get screwed over and cannot access the content you paid for when EA decides to shut the servers down. there was no need for EA to take control of them. pc multiplayer games have had user ran/created dedicated servers for at least 16 years. no need to take that away

[Zimek]

bennyjammin79 wrote...

I totally want MP DLC. Screw SP.

Also Mac>PC.

I see what you did there

[sparkyo42]

I've never even started the MP and don't intend to. But I expect that the only semi long term DLC we'll see is MP only.

[prazision]

Jsxdf wrote...
i can still play quake, and any expansion packs. i can still play quake multiplayer. that is a 16 year old game.

you will not be able to play me3 multiplayer in 16 years. you probably wont
even be able to play it in 3.

Sooooo... you're saying that companies should never make Multiplayer games unless they plan on supporting them until the Heat Death Of The Universe?  I mean really what in the world is your point?  "Oh man I can only play ME3 multiplayer for a year or two!  What a ripoff!"  May I please have some of what you're smoking, because I just ran out.

(Also I wasn't being sarcastic, video games are literally a waste of money.)

[Pkxm]

no, im not saying that. id software does not support quake, they dont have to. you dont understand dedicated servers or lan support apparently so you will not understand what im talking about.

my point is simple. i am not paying for multiplayer content that i will not be able to access when ea shuts down the servers. all ea/bioware would have to do is add dedicated server/lan support into me3 multiplayer, so we can create/run our own servers instead of having to connect to THEIR servers. dedicated servers is something pc games had for over 16 years. ea & activision have started a trend by removing them, resulting in any multiplayer functionality depending on THEM.

the reason they are doing this is to push multiplayer into subscription based. have fun paying a subscription just to play COD multiplayer. although you probably dont care because your parents would probably be paying for it. they see mmo's and say to themselves, why cant we charge 15 a month to play bf3/cod? so they take away mod tools, take away dedicated server & lan support, and force people to connect to their multiplayer platform. after a while, they will start charging a subscription.

you are paying for multilplayer content you will not be able to access when ea decides you shouldnt be able to when they shut off me3 multiplayer. that is a total waste of money. its not even DLC..it should be considered temporary paid access to content which is stupid

Modifié par Jsxdf, 02 mai 2012 - 06:58 .

[Lucky Mame]

I'm gonna guess the next rumour dlc will be: Marauding Map Pack. You can play as Turian Reaper thingy. I mean come on. It's inevitable.

[prazision]

I don't pay for subscription-based games. ME3 is the only multiplayer game I even play, aside from cheap stuff like Magic: Duels of the Planeswalkers. I hate FPS games and never play them, offline or online.

I just think you're being extremely unrealistic and dense. Also entitled. Being able to play a game for a year or two is entirely reasonable from a cost-benefit standpoint. I don't think ME3 MP would even be fun if you played it for two years.

[eoinnx03]

Who cares its multiplayer, its just another skin to play with.

[xsdob]

Pheonix could be the raoli, just saying.

[DiebytheSword]

I suspect that the ME3 MP DLC was always inteded to be supported through microtransactions, and that continued model will likely rely on continued purchases from the MP community.

For my part, if they release it free, I will support it by buying points to purchase packs, as I did with Resurgance.

Modifié par DiebytheSword, 02 mai 2012 - 07:19 .

[Sebbe1337o]

I would actually prefer more kinds of enemies in MP is anything regarding MP should be released. I guess that would take more work and time though. Create models and animations etc. I guess we might get a new enemy faction later though.

[abaris]

prazision wrote...

I don't pay for subscription-based games. ME3 is the only multiplayer game I even play, aside from cheap stuff like Magic: Duels of the Planeswalkers. I hate FPS games and never play them, offline or online.

And there's your problem.

I don't like FPS games either and I outright hate shooter multiplayer because of the general audience they attract.

But that doesn't mean I can't appreciate the difference between a multiplayer option only allowing to be played on servers controlled by the producing company and games you can play on dedicated servers with people you know IRL or online.

I'm still a big fan of a hardcore racing Sim called Grand Prix Legends. That game came out in 1998 and modders kept it alive till present day. And you can still race online, since the virtual heads up from the producers isn't needed. It can be played in every corner of the online world, not just on the servers the mother company set up long time ago.

[Pkxm]

prazision wrote...

I don't pay for subscription-based games. ME3 is the only multiplayer game I even play, aside from cheap stuff like Magic: Duels of the Planeswalkers. I hate FPS games and never play them, offline or online.

I just think you're being extremely unrealistic and dense. Also entitled. Being able to play a game for a year or two is entirely reasonable from a cost-benefit standpoint. I don't think ME3 MP would even be fun if you played it for two years.

me3 is the only multiplayer game you play.
you hate fps games and never play them.


you do not understand fps games, or multiplayer games. you do not understand that for over 16 years, fps multiplayer games used dedicated servers (we could start up our own server, on our own connection, and people connect to it). that is simply the REALITY of it. that is how they were and some still are. i am not "unrealistic" or "dense". i am stating facts. entitled? how am i entitled? i am not demanding anything for free. i would have no problem paying for a multiplayer map pack/weapons/characters if we could keep ACCESS TO WHAT WE PAID FOR . all ea would have to do is simply return lan/ user created dedicated server access to their fps/multiplayer games. i understand me isnt exactly a "fps" but in a way, its just a fps with the camera placed at the back of the player. it uses the unreal engine, developed by epic games, major multiplayer shooter developer right there. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unreal_Engine

it would be like buying a car, but ford saying after 5 years you have to return the car to us and you can no longer drive it. wtf? waste of money


you could say im just old, i realize the current trend is moving away from the good ol days. its sad to see, and i wont be participating in it


also, im not saying me3 mp would continue being fun playing it for 2 years. but considering that mp is tied into me3s sp, what happens when the servers are gone and you cannot play mp to up your readiness? isnt there a big thing going on about not being able to get a certain ending without playing multiplayer? what happens when game devs start making sp and mp dependant on eachother without us having lan or dedicated server to fall back on when they shut their servers down?

Modifié par Jsxdf, 02 mai 2012 - 07:38 .

[prazision]

Jsxdf wrote...
you could say im just old

LOL.  I bet you $10 I'm older than you, pal.  That's entirely beside the point, however.

The way ME3's multiplayer works could never work with anything BUT dedicated EA servers.  They keep a handle on people cheating/hacking - things which can adversely affect YOUR playing experience.  Without dedicated EA servers, there would be no equipment packs to buy, which would take a lot of the fun of discovery out of collecting the guns/characters.  Without using EA servers, there would be no "weekend events" which reward players.  Without using EA servers, there would be no balance fixes (or they would be, to put it mildly, insanely hard to implement in a consistent fashion).

That is why I say you are being dense.  I actually used to play Quake Online.  It was pretty fun - for a few weeks.  Then it just became stale (yes, even more stale than the ME3 MP).

Maybe you should let go of the past and find games of this generation that you enjoy.  The industry evolves and you can either evolve with it or keep replaying the same game on your 486 with a 56k modem over and over.  Your choice!

[Zalbik]

Icemix wrote...

MP DLC you say?
Do not care.
Do not want.

This

[Pkxm]

prazision wrote...

Jsxdf wrote...
you could say im just old

LOL.  I bet you $10 I'm older than you, pal.  That's entirely beside the point, however.

The way ME3's multiplayer works could never work with anything BUT dedicated EA servers.  They keep a handle on people cheating/hacking - things which can adversely affect YOUR playing experience.  Without dedicated EA servers, there would be no equipment packs to buy, which would take a lot of the fun of discovery out of collecting the guns/characters.  Without using EA servers, there would be no "weekend events" which reward players.  Without using EA servers, there would be no balance fixes (or they would be, to put it mildly, insanely hard to implement in a consistent fashion).

That is why I say you are being dense.  I actually used to play Quake Online.  It was pretty fun - for a few weeks.  Then it just became stale (yes, even more stale than the ME3 MP).

Maybe you should let go of the past and find games of this generation that you enjoy.  The industry evolves and you can either evolve with it or keep replaying the same game on your 486 with a 56k modem over and over.  Your choice!

ever played bf3 multiplayer? its well known EA has done nothing to stop the cheating. its even worse than before they took control of servers so the "they stop cheating and improve your gaming experience" has no truth to it.

they do not have to remove the games running on their servers. they can simply add the lan/dedicated server support to it so when they shut down their server, we can still play it on our own. i believe one of the cod games had activision ran matchmaking AND dedicated servers for those who wanted it. it can be done

[leeboi2]

LOL! I DONT AND NEVER WILL PLAY MP! IM GOING TO JUST NOT BOTHER PLAYING A PART OF THE GAME BECUZ IM ST00PID!

[i IIVIIorpheus]

I admit I enjoy the MP very much, but I want to EXPAND MY SINGLE PLAYER experience.  Hence more SP related DLC!! People keep talking about "take back Omega" DLC and "wishlists", etc...but it's all rumor and yet we keep getting more MP stuff.

LOL @ pro-enders who keep claiming that "Bioware is listening to you"....

[Atakuma]

i IIVIIorpheus wrote...

I admit I enjoy the MP very much, but I want to EXPAND MY SINGLE PLAYER experience.  Hence more SP related DLC!! People keep talking about "take back Omega" DLC and "wishlists", etc...but it's all rumor and yet we keep getting more MP stuff.

LOL @ pro-enders who keep claiming that "Bioware is listening to you"....

The reason there hasn't been any SP dlc announced is because it's all been pushed back to work on the extended cut, so you have only yourselves to blame for this.

Modifié par Atakuma, 02 mai 2012 - 08:55 .