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Drummernate wrote...

RANDOMvGRENADE wrote...

It's not really sarcastic when the tone rings true.  Anyone can check my manifest and see that I have put in WAAAAY more time than most of the trolls flaming me here, and the community can easily see that and decide for themselves whether or not my opinion has any value, here or anywhere else.  Come at me bro


Way more time Firebase White Farming or Credit Glitching?

Bravo.

I am rank 31 in the world at Gears 3...

Come at me bro.


Ha so now I'm a credit glitcher/farmer?    Based on what?  That I have more weapons than you?  How petty.  Read any of my posts and you can easily see that my understanding of the mechanics and strategy in this game is well above the community standard.  Do your homework before you make accusations son.  I'm a beast on the Box.

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xsdob wrote...

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What is this about? I haven't played multiplayer for a week and a half so what I miss?


Seriously, what's going on?


You know what, I just read this entire flamewar thread TWICE and I still have absolutly no idea what the hell the op was talking about in multiplayer.

So have some party temple for this absolutly pointless thread.

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Complements of an absolutly lost poster who can;t figure out anything about op's post.

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Bet your a beast with your right hand as well...

Ow snap

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jreezy wrote...

iHorizons wrote...

jreezy wrote...

RANDOMvGRENADE wrote...

I hope TC's Future Soldier will be worth all the hype.  That's where I'll be headed in a couple weeks, never to look back.  

Yeah all that spawn camping is going to be fun.


That is in every shooter

I know. Epic is the only developer smart enough to do something about that stupid tactic.


I only play Gears and UMvC3. and of course Mass Effect

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jeremygamer wrote...

Every time I check back, OP is still at it. This is some next level troll ish he's throwing us.

/golfclap


Defending thread DOES NOT EQUAL trolling.
OP= Original Poster.   ORIGINAL.  It's not like I'm talking to myself buddy.  It's called a discussion, and the lames are quick to slap a troll tag on things they don't agree with or more than likely just don't understand.  Participate in the discussion.  Your remark has no bearing on this topic troll.

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Drummernate wrote...

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oh I get it, OP has a Scorpion 9. I'd be mad as hell too


This.

I'm guessing the general consensus is that gun sucks?

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RANDOMvGRENADE wrote...

Ha so now I'm a credit glitcher/farmer?    Based on what?  That I have more weapons than you?  How petty.  Read any of my posts and you can easily see that my understanding of the mechanics and strategy in this game is well above the community standard.  Do your homework before you make accusations son.  I'm a beast on the Box.


Odds are highly in that direction.

I play 6-8 hours a day and have 20-25 minute gold matches every time.

You may have better luck than me, but you surely are not better in any sense.

Anyone with a brain can understand the game mechanics and strategy... and exploit them.

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xsdob wrote...

xsdob wrote...

xsdob wrote...

What is this about? I haven't played multiplayer for a week and a half so what I miss?


Seriously, what's going on?


You know what, I just read this entire flamewar thread TWICE and I still have absolutly no idea what the hell the op was talking about in multiplayer.

So have some party temple for this absolutly pointless thread.

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Complements of an absolutly lost poster who can;t figure out anything about op's post.


So your lack of understanding of a persons viewpoint prompts a comic strip type response?  If you don't have anything constructive to add, you are the problem

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RANDOMvGRENADE wrote...

Defending thread DOES NOT EQUAL trolling.
OP= Original Poster.   ORIGINAL.  It's not like I'm talking to myself buddy.  It's called a discussion, and the lames are quick to slap a troll tag on things they don't agree with or more than likely just don't understand.  Participate in the discussion.  Your remark has no bearing on this topic troll.


When it comes to internet forums, troll now means "Person who disagrees with my point of view that I can't actually come up with valid points to argue against him with".

Though I still disagree with you =P

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jreezy wrote...

Drummernate wrote...

marshalleck wrote...

oh I get it, OP has a Scorpion 9. I'd be mad as hell too


This.

I'm guessing the general consensus is that gun sucks?


Not personally, one of my favorites

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iHorizons wrote...

jreezy wrote...

iHorizons wrote...

jreezy wrote...

RANDOMvGRENADE wrote...

I hope TC's Future Soldier will be worth all the hype.  That's where I'll be headed in a couple weeks, never to look back.  

Yeah all that spawn camping is going to be fun.


That is in every shooter

I know. Epic is the only developer smart enough to do something about that stupid tactic.


I only play Gears and UMvC3. and of course Mass Effect

I (regrettably) traded my copy of Gears of War 3 away. I played it a lot though because it was pretty smooth experience.

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Cyonan wrote...

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Still doesn't mean you don't have a lack of players. Quite a few of my PC friends no longer play on anymore and only come back for the weekend events, and most of them no longer visit the forums. PS3 no one plays anymore on my friends list as they've all gone back to the normal.

As for me I still play this on the PC, stopped playing on the PS3 after BW decided to **** me over so its AWESOMNAUTS for now till Starhawk.


The thing about all the "my friends have stopped playing" point is that nobody knows numbers unless Bioware posts them. Your friends may leave, but other people join. The overall is still most likely going down every day, but nobody really knows if it's at an alarming rate other than EA/Bioware.

To use WoW again(Just because it fits every argument so damn well) people at the start of Wrath of the Lich King said the same thing about their friend's list getting smaller and smaller every day, and the game had its' peak number of active subscriptions during that expansion at 12 million.


I've already made my case you're still going on about nothing.  This game will die by the end of the year.  The Mid year is already bringing good games for many people to switch too.  Have fun playing this glitchy **** while I go off to play a better game.

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RazRei wrote...

I've already made my case you're still going on about nothing.  This game will die by the end of the year.  The Mid year is already bringing good games for many people to switch too.  Have fun playing this glitchy **** while I go off to play a better game.


Your case that an SP focused game should have an MP that competes with MP focused AAA titles?

I agree'd with you that it will be dead by the end of the year

I'm just saying that it's a solid lifespan for something like this(unless it gets fleshed out more very soon) and that it's a little early to break out the doomsaying that the end is nigh.

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Drummernate wrote...

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Ha so now I'm a credit glitcher/farmer?    Based on what?  That I have more weapons than you?  How petty.  Read any of my posts and you can easily see that my understanding of the mechanics and strategy in this game is well above the community standard.  Do your homework before you make accusations son.  I'm a beast on the Box.


Odds are highly in that direction.

I play 6-8 hours a day and have 20-25 minute gold matches every time.

You may have better luck than me, but you surely are not better in any sense.

Anyone with a brain can understand the game mechanics and strategy... and exploit them.


I concede that I do not know for sure that I am better than you at ME3.  But then again I don't care.  Odds are highly in favor that I farm/glitch?  Based on what?   that I have more guns and a higher N7 than you?  Pretty lame bro, and petty as well.  You are on Xbox. If you ever want a lesson in my skillsets just find me and I'll be more than happy to educate you.  As far as this discussion goes let's just agree that you don't agree with my OP and let it go bro.

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RANDOMvGRENADE wrote...

So your lack of understanding of a persons viewpoint prompts a comic strip type response?  If you don't have anything constructive to add, you are the problem


I read through the thread and you were trying to make some points but they were scattered so they were confusing and I didn't really understand.  I am just as confused as he is :T

It might be easier to just outline your main point in one post and link back to that when people ask you what you mean.


Also as a side note, everyone should quit calling everyone else trolls.  Very few if any posts that I saw here are malicious.

Modifié par Verhalthur, 03 mai 2012 - 02:15 .


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RANDOMvGRENADE wrote...

So your lack of understanding of a persons viewpoint prompts a comic strip type response?  If you don't have anything constructive to add, you are the problem


Just expressing my frustrations in a way that may or may not be comical.

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Cyonan wrote...

RazRei wrote...

I've already made my case you're still going on about nothing.  This game will die by the end of the year.  The Mid year is already bringing good games for many people to switch too.  Have fun playing this glitchy **** while I go off to play a better game.


Your case that an SP focused game should have an MP that competes with MP focused AAA titles?

I agree'd with you that it will be dead by the end of the year

I'm just saying that it's a solid lifespan for something like this(unless it gets fleshed out more very soon) and that it's a little early to break out the doomsaying that the end is nigh.

  • Its already dieing
  • I was shocked at how much fun the MP actually was
  • Just because YOU don't care about these games that's coming out the mass majority actually do


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RANDOMvGRENADE wrote...

As far as this discussion goes let's just agree that you don't agree with my OP and let it go bro.


Actually I do agree...

I just don't argee with brining up  the whole "I am above criticism because I (Might have) spent more time playing" thing.

Capitalism has nothing  to do with it.

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RazRei wrote...


Its already dieing
I was shocked at how much fun the MP actually was
Just because YOU don't care about these games that's coming out the mass majority actually do


Well I'm getting Diablo 3, so I don't not care about them. I'm also getting Borderlands 2.

But here's the thing about ME3 MP, it's a test. An experiment to see what the reaction to MP is in the ME universe. Why else would it not be very fleshed out? It just wasn't a smart business move to throw a ton of resources at it.

While that doesn't have much relevancy to the whole "it's dying" thing that I've been agreeing with the whole time, if it takes the 5 games listed in this thread to collectively kill a test, then mission accomplished Bioware.

I would say mission accomplished even if it took 2 MP centric AAA titles to kill it, much less 5.

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i dont even think ME3's MP was made to last, its such a gimmick thats why they are doing these weekly events. They want us to speculate

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Verhalthur wrote...

RANDOMvGRENADE wrote...

So your lack of understanding of a persons viewpoint prompts a comic strip type response?  If you don't have anything constructive to add, you are the problem


I read through the thread and you were trying to make some points but they were scattered so they were confusing and I didn't really understand.  I am just as confused as he is :T

It might be easier to just outline your main point in one post and link back to that when people ask you what you mean.


Also as a side note, everyone should quit calling everyone else trolls.  Very few if any posts that I saw here are malicious.


Yes trying to track points in a hot forum thread can be difficult.  If this debate is still on tomorrow I may make an "outline" thread as you put it.   The point of the short post was to avoid what could be seen or interpreted as a "rant", which is easily dismissed.   My intention is to spark discourse, not disgust.

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iHorizons wrote...

i dont even think ME3's MP was made to last, its such a gimmick thats why they are doing these weekly events. They want us to speculate


The weekend events is the only thing they can do to keep it afloat.  I highly doubt they'll do a major overhual of the MP seeing how that cost money and most won't be willing to pony up.

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RazRei wrote...

iHorizons wrote...

i dont even think ME3's MP was made to last, its such a gimmick thats why they are doing these weekly events. They want us to speculate


The weekend events is the only thing they can do to keep it afloat.  I highly doubt they'll do a major overhual of the MP seeing how that cost money and most won't be willing to pony up.


They are all up on their high horse because they released "Free" DLC. MP is more stale than the piece of beard under my fridge. We need new enemies (Collectors or perhaps the BW staff). If they just add in where you could play as main characters (Ashley, Miranda, etc.). It would make things more exciting

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RANDOMvGRENADE wrote...

 It's too bad really because I think they may have been on to something with this format.  Unfortunately due to lack of customer service, poor product maintenance, and a string of broken promises, this MP has forever been damaged and will NEVER RECOVER.  Too many veteran gamers slighted this time I'm afraid.  

Always sad to see great ideas crushed under the weight of capitalism.

I hope TC's Future Soldier will be worth all the hype.  That's where I'll be headed in a couple weeks, never to look back.  Shame on you EA/Bioware.  Shame.

Random


Your OP.

First off, it's a rant. You give three reasons why you think this is a bad game, but give no examples and make no suggestions the devs can take into consideration. You assert that the game is forever damaged and will never recover, which solidifies this as a rant, because you can not see into the future. People on forums always respond negetivly to rants, you should know this if you post as much as you claim. You believe you are smart, and have asserted such, so I can't believe you did not see this comming. I think you were fishing for it. Guess what "son" you caught a whopper.

You assert the devs ideas have been crushed under the weight of capitolism, yet it is this very system that allows them to be creative and more importantly feed thier families.

You end with a threat to leave in "a couple weeks" which is always the icing on the cake of any rant.

Your op came off as the rant of a spoiled child who did not get the biggest piece of birthday cake, and you have the audacity to claim you only wanted a civil discussion.

No one here is buying your goods, its a good thing you hate capitolism.

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iHorizons wrote...

They are all up on their high horse because they released "Free" DLC. MP is more stale than the piece of beard under my fridge. We need new enemies (Collectors or perhaps the BW staff). If they just add in where you could play as main characters (Ashley, Miranda, etc.). It would make things more exciting


Pierce of beard? =P

Though you were right in that it wasn't designed to last.

They could try to save it with fleshing it out, but it would have to happen very quickly. It just wasn't designed to compete with the onslaught of MP designed games coming out soon. The fact that we're even comparing it to them is a success in itself, however given that it wasn't designed to be like that.