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AldarionnEB wrote...

Well, we know for a fact that BioWare wants to make more Mass Effect titles, just not ones that deal with Shepard. Perhaps we can expect a more fleshed out Multiplayer experience in future installments.


I hope so,  the online community needs a break from zombies and warfighters that is not a spin off of some cliche franchise.

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ArtGerhardt wrote...

30 years ago people said that money was ruining music. It still is. But we still have bands like Radiohead and AIR. The gaming industry was largely non-mainstream and underground until about 6 years ago. I don't rememeber seeing more than one female gamer out of 3000 male gamers back then, but today, it's more like 1 every 15.

The real game developers that respect their veteran fans will be the developers that survive. Think about Valve. They rock. Customer support always gives you a good answer. Very little bugs in Steam for the past few years. Easy for Indie devs to get their product out.

Even with all this corporate bull**** easing its way into the gaming industry, we're still going to have great games and developers.

Bioware needs to make a decision. They can stay on the EA wagon and make a ton of money over the next few years, or they can ditch EA and get a company like Valve to publish their work, or any company that doesn't give strick deadlines and respect the detail that can be put into games if given the time.


Agreed!

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If they found a way to make MP cross platform, I would never stop playing.

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RANDOMvGRENADE wrote...

ArtGerhardt wrote...

30 years ago people said that money was ruining music. It still is. But we still have bands like Radiohead and AIR. The gaming industry was largely non-mainstream and underground until about 6 years ago. I don't rememeber seeing more than one female gamer out of 3000 male gamers back then, but today, it's more like 1 every 15.

The real game developers that respect their veteran fans will be the developers that survive. Think about Valve. They rock. Customer support always gives you a good answer. Very little bugs in Steam for the past few years. Easy for Indie devs to get their product out.

Even with all this corporate bull**** easing its way into the gaming industry, we're still going to have great games and developers.

Bioware needs to make a decision. They can stay on the EA wagon and make a ton of money over the next few years, or they can ditch EA and get a company like Valve to publish their work, or any company that doesn't give strick deadlines and respect the detail that can be put into games if given the time.


Agreed!


 They don't have that option.  Their parent company, which also owned the late Pandemic Studios, was bought before DA: Origins was released, but after ME1.  Sorry for the lack of a solid date.  Anyways, BioWare is an EA studio now.  The devs could pull an IW and leave to start their own company, but that's if they have the resources to do so, which I doubt.

EA and Valve comparisons are also naive.  Yes, Valve is a much better company.  But the reason for that goes way beyond Steam and customer support.  It's where these companies came from and who is making the calls that makes the difference.

By the way, this thread isn't worth much.  2 months on a virgin multiplayer game, and suddenly it's the end of BioWare?  It's like people who compare Origin and Steam.  They expect the same exact coding and mapping to be used, when it doesn't work like that at all.  It's the same with multiplayer.  Studios that don't do multiplayer tend to suck at developing it the first time around.  We saw it with Visceral Games, and we saw it with Epic when they moved to the 360.  Things turned out better than expected though.  If you thought you were going to get Halo level multiplayer quality (game/service itself, not the players), than you need to stop huffing paint chips.

Personally, I'm not expecting much for a while.  They have DA3 which will have mp, E.C. DLC, campaign DLC, and multiplayer DLC in the pipe, all while trying to balance the game to meet complaints (which is just editing .bin files) and dealing with snafus such as this past weekend.

But you and those who are screaming Diablo 3 FTW and w/e are not helping.  You don't like the game and want out?  Click the log off button, delete the game from your Origin list/trade-in your console copy, and move on.  It saves yourself, and others, time in reading these doom prophet, recruitment to ditch posts.

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ArkkAngel007 wrote...

RANDOMvGRENADE wrote...

ArtGerhardt wrote...

30 years ago people said that money was ruining music. It still is. But we still have bands like Radiohead and AIR. The gaming industry was largely non-mainstream and underground until about 6 years ago. I don't rememeber seeing more than one female gamer out of 3000 male gamers back then, but today, it's more like 1 every 15.

The real game developers that respect their veteran fans will be the developers that survive. Think about Valve. They rock. Customer support always gives you a good answer. Very little bugs in Steam for the past few years. Easy for Indie devs to get their product out.

Even with all this corporate bull**** easing its way into the gaming industry, we're still going to have great games and developers.

Bioware needs to make a decision. They can stay on the EA wagon and make a ton of money over the next few years, or they can ditch EA and get a company like Valve to publish their work, or any company that doesn't give strick deadlines and respect the detail that can be put into games if given the time.


Agreed!


 They don't have that option.  Their parent company, which also owned the late Pandemic Studios, was bought before DA: Origins was released, but after ME1.  Sorry for the lack of a solid date.  Anyways, BioWare is an EA studio now.  The devs could pull an IW and leave to start their own company, but that's if they have the resources to do so, which I doubt.

EA and Valve comparisons are also naive.  Yes, Valve is a much better company.  But the reason for that goes way beyond Steam and customer support.  It's where these companies came from and who is making the calls that makes the difference.

By the way, this thread isn't worth much.  2 months on a virgin multiplayer game, and suddenly it's the end of BioWare?  It's like people who compare Origin and Steam.  They expect the same exact coding and mapping to be used, when it doesn't work like that at all.  It's the same with multiplayer.  Studios that don't do multiplayer tend to suck at developing it the first time around.  We saw it with Visceral Games, and we saw it with Epic when they moved to the 360.  Things turned out better than expected though.  If you thought you were going to get Halo level multiplayer quality (game/service itself, not the players), than you need to stop huffing paint chips.

Personally, I'm not expecting much for a while.  They have DA3 which will have mp, E.C. DLC, campaign DLC, and multiplayer DLC in the pipe, all while trying to balance the game to meet complaints (which is just editing .bin files) and dealing with snafus such as this past weekend.

But you and those who are screaming Diablo 3 FTW and w/e are not helping.  You don't like the game and want out?  Click the log off button, delete the game from your Origin list/trade-in your console copy, and move on.  It saves yourself, and others, time in reading these doom prophet, recruitment to ditch posts.


The OP made no reference to the "END OF BIOWARE".    It stated the end of Mass Effect 3 MP.  Very clearly actually, right in the title.  Good argument though, too bad you are arguing with yourself as i never said any of that.