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[KoJotP]

I'm sorry but WoW doesn't crash that often and have regionally based servers so EU clients don't have to wait for Canada to wake up. Plus it's not isolated instance of one singular screw up by EA/Bioware. Every weekend (now actually every other) tends to be quite unplayable, especially with "feedback on" that is required for packs. Not to mention whole Origin being down every now and then. I enjoyed ME1 and ME2 SP immensely, bought content DLC (couldn't care less about equip packs) pre-ordered N7 DDE, enjoyed most of ME3 as well (I find endings kinda meh, not because of Shepards fate but due to the fact that they all look the same and quite frankly don't explain anything; I expected something like with Mordin story-arc and instead I got 3 chat options in disguise). I must say though that I find the direction that the company and it's PR and marketing are taking quite worrisome. Each following time packs come later (used to be Tuesday first, then Wednesday now it seems that Thursday might still be too soon), voice chat doesn't work at all (worked erratically in demo). Of course my ISP could be blamed, although I don't seem to have any trouble with any other form of voice chat (Teamspeak, Ventrilo work great). I remember being able to even use WoW ingame voice chat (before they turned it off completely) which was buggy as hell and caused most people a lot of grief. ME3 forced me to install Origin. By being buggy and with spyware cat (being the Origin hint hint) already out of the bag I decided to give Steam a go. And if this current situation persists I might go play F2P TF2. And never buy anything from EA again. Or at least never pre-order and buy only discounted games several months after premieres provided game has excellent gamer reviews (since the gamepress seems to be totally off, not to say bribed/forced to praise games) and been already fixed several times. Which in fact is bad business for both EA/Bioware, since they make most of their income on the game from preorder/premiere money.

[Core_Commander]

You must not know the history of Team Fortress 2, AKA one of the most popular multiplayer shooters.

That game is famous for bad performance, hl2.exe crashes, loadout being unavailable, updates breaking the game for days on end... and still persists, because the gameplay is good. Not being able to play for a day or two is insignificant in the long run. Read a book, breathe some fresh air, relax.

Or... quit, it's your time. But really, don't bother doomsaying. You don't have a case.

Modifié par Core_Commander, 02 mai 2012 - 06:34 .

[Crimzoneyed]

I love this image, it fit's in 90% of all threads

[Pugz82]

zhk3r wrote...

Is this your first multiplayer game? I'm astounded, yes astounded by people who keep posting threads like yours. It's not like any game ships without bugs, glitches and annoyances. It's normal, every game does it. Don't get me wrong; I'm annoyed by certain things in this game as well, especially the lack of modding. But that doesn't mean the game is "NEVER GOING TO RECOVER" within it's first two months of release.

Get over youself, have fun with Future Soldier. I'll be playing Diablo III and jumping back into action with my Vanguard once in a while. Don't play *one* game, you'll always be an angry gamer if you do.

Astounded eh?  This game has more bugs than an ant farm and has been out almost 2 months.  Other games yes have bugs but are addressed quickly.  I'd like to play this game without constant freezing, or stupid bugs in MP.  BW dropped the ball and needs to recovery quickly.

[xJediZombiex]

Then sell your game and get on with your life. Your ideas and opinions are not needed to "keep this game alive", unless the "game" in which you speak is trolling, then bravo.

[NOO3TASTIC]

[RANDOMvGRENADE]

xJediZombiex wrote...

Just curious, RANDOMvGRENADE, what is your idea of the perfect game?

So because I'm not happy with the state of this game, I must be an elitist who will only play the perfect game?  Lets take it easy on the hyperbole guys.  Nobody is expecting perfection.   Just make it work right if you want to keep people playing for more than 6 months total.   

[Blennus]

Hmm... Don't you guys think that RANDOMvGRENADE is actually a troll? That's what he looks like from my point of view at least. Lets just let this thread die guys.

[RANDOMvGRENADE]

Core_Commander wrote...

You must not know the history of Team Fortress 2, AKA one of the most popular multiplayer shooters.

That game is famous for bad performance, hl2.exe crashes, loadout being unavailable, updates breaking the game for days on end... and still persists, because the gameplay is good. Not being able to play for a day or two is insignificant in the long run. Read a book, breathe some fresh air, relax.

Or... quit, it's your time. But really, don't bother doomsaying. You don't have a case.

The difference?  TEAM FORTRESS UPDATES WEEKLY.

[KoJotP]

and is for free

Modifié par KoJotP, 02 mai 2012 - 06:36 .

[xJediZombiex]

RANDOMvGRENADE wrote...

xJediZombiex wrote...

Just curious, RANDOMvGRENADE, what is your idea of the perfect game?

So because I'm not happy with the state of this game, I must be an elitist who will only play the perfect game?  Lets take it easy on the hyperbole guys.  Nobody is expecting perfection.   Just make it work right if you want to keep people playing for more than 6 months total.   

You didn't answer my question, so let me refrase it; In your opinion, what is the game with the "best" miltiplayer experince?

[Purple People Eater]

 

[RANDOMvGRENADE]

Blennus wrote...

Hmm... Don't you guys think that RANDOMvGRENADE is actually a troll? That's what he looks like from my point of view at least. Lets just let this thread die guys.

Troll (Widipedia Definition)

In Internet slang, a troll[/b] is someone who posts inflammatory,[2] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[3] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion. 


What about my comment was either off topic, inflammatory or extraneous?   

Inflammatory?  I addressed Bioware and EA.  Not the community or players. and my language was appropriate and well within forum guidelines.

extraneous?  others are talking about it as well so it is relevant

off topic=  I created topic so it doesn't apply.

Trolls are the guys in this thread attacking me personally and talking about topics unrelated to my original post.  

Consider yourselves informed

[Core_Commander]

RANDOMvGRENADE wrote...

Core_Commander wrote...

You must not know the history of Team Fortress 2, AKA one of the most popular multiplayer shooters.

That game is famous for bad performance, hl2.exe crashes, loadout being unavailable, updates breaking the game for days on end... and still persists, because the gameplay is good. Not being able to play for a day or two is insignificant in the long run. Read a book, breathe some fresh air, relax.

Or... quit, it's your time. But really, don't bother doomsaying. You don't have a case.

The difference?  TEAM FORTRESS UPDATES WEEKLY.

Rofl. New to that, I see. Used to update once every few weeks. Or months. Check out the "bugs" section in TF2 wiki, it's about the size if Britannica's. Most of those years-old, with people asking for fixes all the time, for years on end. Some really serious bugs (CM projectiles becoming full crits on reflect) and huge balance issues (wrangler being able to withstand a demo uber) persist.

The weekly updates began recently, and it's mostly just small stuff, one fan-made cosmetic item, one or two minor glitches fixed, one or two new glitches introduced. Seriously, those bug fixes give us hope for the future, but before that the game had existed in a super-glitched state... for at least four years.

The game whose doom you're spelling came out a few weeks ago. Some difference, heh.

Modifié par Core_Commander, 02 mai 2012 - 06:58 .

[Drummernate]

Bioware only releases free DLC because they realize they have such a messed up game.

When the stuff people pay real money for doesn't work (Buy a pack with real money that contains Ops-Survival Packs... They glitch and don't work.) They feel the need to save their asses by dangling a nice free DLC carrot in front of us.

Not to mention the fact that there are a ton of other bugs making the game nearly unplayable for some people. (Vanguard glitch etc.)

Modifié par Drummernate, 02 mai 2012 - 06:41 .

[KoJotP]

Don't get me wrong. I love ME3. I think the combat flow is close to great (wish PC users had more action buttons than just the SPACE) and the movement, powers and overall combat are far better than in previous games. On the other hand I cannot not notice the plot, quests and overall story being shallower than in previous games. Yet the MP was the tool to keep the game alive and viable entertainment after SP. Sadly it doesn't hold to the promise, similarly to SP. Despite several "perfect score" my personal opinion is that ME3 is solid good game that failed to reach it's epic potential. And the post-launch events don't bode well. And about throwing tantrum, both sides of the fence did that. Artistic integrity, hah.

[AdrianC25]

Modifié par AdrianC25, 02 mai 2012 - 07:06 .

[RANDOMvGRENADE]

Core_Commander wrote...

RANDOMvGRENADE wrote...

Core_Commander wrote...

You must not know the history of Team Fortress 2, AKA one of the most popular multiplayer shooters.

That game is famous for bad performance, hl2.exe crashes, loadout being unavailable, updates breaking the game for days on end... and still persists, because the gameplay is good. Not being able to play for a day or two is insignificant in the long run. Read a book, breathe some fresh air, relax.

Or... quit, it's your time. But really, don't bother doomsaying. You don't have a case.

The difference?  TEAM FORTRESS UPDATES WEEKLY.

Rofl. New to that, I see. Used to update once every few weeks. Or months. Check out the "bugs" section in TF2 wiki, it's about the size if Britannica's. Most of those years-old, with people asking for fixes all the time, for years on end. Some really serious bugs (CM projectiles becoming full crits on reflect) and huge balance issues (wrangler being able to withstand a demo uber) persist.

The weekly updates began recently, and it's mostly just small stuff, one fan-made cosmetic item, one or two minor glitches fixed, one or two new glitches introduced. Seriously, those bug fixes give us hope for the future, but before that the game had existed in a super-glitched state... for at least four years.

The game whose doom you're spelling came out a few weeks ago. Some difference, heh.

reguardless, this is NOT TF2, nor will it ever be if they don't jump on these things quick.  The console gamer is a lot less forgiving than most PCers, and much more likely to just move on.  

[RANDOMvGRENADE]

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

xtorma wrote...

So bioware pulled your pin, and you exploded. It's what happens to grenades, you should not be suprised.

Win!


Just opened the thread, saw the OP, read the rant, then the response and am now leaving because it could only go downhill from there. Thanks xtorma, that gave me a good chuckle.

Funnier still is that it was more a lament than a rant.  Barely a paragraph worth of post, and yes, it did go downhill for a bit, but I think good sense is finally pervading this discussion

[NegativZero]

So a day of downtime = RUINED FOREVER?
I don't think accusing Bioware of purposely taking down the server is really justified. It's not like they're conspiring against you or something.

[OblivionDawn]

Can I have your stuff, etc.

[Cyonan]

RANDOMvGRENADE wrote...

reguardless, this is NOT TF2, nor will it ever be if they don't jump on these things quick.  The console gamer is a lot less forgiving than most PCers, and much more likely to just move on.  

Only the game was never meant to be TF2, nor was it ever meant to compete with it.

It was an experiment to see what the public response to multi-player in the Mass Effect universe was. It would have been a very poor business move to throw a ton of resources at an unknown like that. 

Modifié par Cyonan, 02 mai 2012 - 07:45 .

[NobodyofConsequence]

Ya know, I understand where OP is coming from. I was (and still am) very disappointed with the ending/s, and the tonal change I perceived in ME3. And I did once, after an evening of continuous disconnects and lag issues post a 'screw this, I'm gone' post. But I'm still here. For me, it was just a case of getting to a point where I accepted the imperfections, and stopped worrying about the discrepancy between what Bioware gave us, and what I hoped for.

I've spent most of my working life in jobs where I bend over backwards to keep my clientele happy. I'm always grateful when someone comes to me and tells me they have a problem. This gives me a chance to fix it. From a business point of view, it's a hell of a lot better than the clients who just give up and never come back. Of which I hope there are none, but accept that is very likely not the case.

I can understand that, to a lot of forumites, people having yet another whinge about some aspect or another can get grating after a while. But I also have learned, in my own life, that 'whinging' has a very important place in the world. It's one of the ways things change for the better. Maybe not always the best way, and certainly not the most pleasant, but good can come from it if the people behind the product, in this case Bioware, care enough to do something about it. And personally, I think they do.