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[Jeric]

I’m actually a little jealous of those that enjoyed how ME3 ended. I’ve tried and tried to swallow that “like the ending” pill but it keeps getting stuck in my throat and vomits back up.  But I’m not asking for CHANGE, I’m asking for MORE! So my questions is, why are those that like the ending SO opposed to Bioware adding/creating NEW endings that reflect how people played the game? I think most people don’t want complete changes, I think most people what more options. Options that validate their choices!
I don’t even know why “pro-enders” come to these forums. If you’re happy with the outcome, don’t worry, we’re not asking for Bioware to mess things up for you so don’t waste your time here. Smile and move on (I so wish I could).
I totally agree that there are lots of people out there that are completely happy with what they got, but would it really be so bad to include those that aren’t by adding a few endings. After all, isn’t the whole feel of the game about choices affecting the outcome?
I’ve completely enjoyed Bioware games. I often play through them several times, but I just can’t do that with ME3. So another question for “pro-enders”, wouldn’t it be totally awesome if you could play through ME3 a few more times with different outcomes? Think about, you could start a new character clear back in ME1 and have a different outcome!!  Why would that be bad!? Bioware could sell millions of “Mass Effect: The Complete Edition”.
Please don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to criticize the "pro-enders" opinions.

There are two groups of people here, those that support the ending, and those against the ending. Bioware has excluded the second group.  Why not include both groups by keeping what’s there and then adding what should have been.
Can someone please help me understand…….

[Lee80]

People love to argue. I'd wager a large percentage of the pro-enders that spend so much time arguing against new ending options are just looking for a way to take out pent up aggression. Though there are some who really do just want everyone to stop talking about it, and let the developers make more DLC that adds to the overall experience not just the ending. Myself I hate the ending, but even I'm just over hearing about it so much.

Both sides (despite the arguments otherwise) are guilty of beating the poor dead horse. Just let the ending rot already.

[Father_Jerusalem]

I'm a pro-ender.

I'm in favor of the new ending. I said from the moment I beat the game that I'd love to see more added in, and when BioWare announced that they were doing just that - adding, not changing - that made me very happy.

So, I honestly don't know where this claim that pro-enders are unhappy about the new ending comes from, but... I'm not one of that group.

[Emzamination]

We're Holding the other side of the Line.

[Sdrol117]

Emzamination wrote...

We're Holding the other side of the Line.

Sure you are. 

[gXs_2]

"pro-enders", "anti-enders", why do we have label people and turn each other into the enemy? We're all Mass Effect fans, with different opinions. No one is really "right" or "wrong".

Having said that, people that like the endings, in general, seem to be fine with the Extended Cut. But obviously they wouldn't want entirely new endings, since they like the existing ones.

[SovereignWillReturn]

It's no even a new ending. EC is not new endings. Its providing more Priority: Earth endgame content, and then post-ending scenes that show the repercussions of ALL of Shep's mdecisions made in ME1/2/3.

No new endings, Bioware has adamantly stated that.

[ognick23]

me personally i dont love the ending but its just not that big a deal to me that i would wanna jump out my window because the endings arent great and the world is over, not when i have real life problems to deal with at least, i mean im happy that they are comming out with the extended cut but i think i would manage to survive if they didnt. So if its half like and half dont like then i guess im in the "other" category.

oh and btw i loved ME3 and have played every game and have invested just as many hours into the lore as everyone else

Modifié par ognick23, 02 mai 2012 - 05:24 .

[Sundance31us]

I don't consider myself pro or anti ending; pro-additional content (of almost any kind) yes.

[The Razman]

We've talked about this before.

Also:

Jeric wrote...
So another question for “pro-enders”, wouldn’t
it be totally awesome if you could play through ME3 a few more times
with different outcomes? Think about, you could start a new character
clear back in ME1 and have a different outcome!!  Why would that be
bad!?

You can. Almost every mission that takes place in ME3 is different with different possible outcomes depending on what you've done in the first two games. The possible outcomes are so numerous they're practically uncountable.

Modifié par The Razman, 02 mai 2012 - 05:24 .

[AkiKishi]

After watching Kore Wa Zombie Desu Ka I can't take the term pro-ender seriously anymore...

[Mylia Stenetch]

BobSmith101 wrote...

After watching Kore Wa Zombie Desu Ka I can't take the anything said in that show seriously anymore...

Fixed that for you. Seriously most stuff they go on about if I hear it I usually end up laugh in tears thinking about a scene.

[Newnation]

Where do I fit in? I don't really care for the endings but I don't hate them either. Honestly, I just want closure for my characters and no "um....WTF" moments.

[AlanC9]

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

I'm a pro-ender.

I'm in favor of the new ending. I said from the moment I beat the game that I'd love to see more added in, and when BioWare announced that they were doing just that - adding, not changing - that made me very happy.

So, I honestly don't know where this claim that pro-enders are unhappy about the new ending comes from, but... I'm not one of that group.

I don't think the OP is talking about the EC. My impression is that he's talking about an altogether new ending -- I'm guessing a happy one.

[Link Ashland 614]

I love the endings and still want the EC, not just for more ME3 content, but because I still want more people to enjoy the game and stop hating and crying like kids who lost their sweets.

And, Bioware has already said they will NOT change the endings.

Modifié par Link Ashland 614, 02 mai 2012 - 05:50 .

[Father_Jerusalem]

AlanC9 wrote...

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

I'm a pro-ender.

I'm in favor of the new ending. I said from the moment I beat the game that I'd love to see more added in, and when BioWare announced that they were doing just that - adding, not changing - that made me very happy.

So, I honestly don't know where this claim that pro-enders are unhappy about the new ending comes from, but... I'm not one of that group.

I don't think the OP is talking about the EC. My impression is that he's talking about an altogether new ending -- I'm guessing a happy one.

Oh, in THAT case... no. The ending we have is the ending. Trying to
change that would be ridiculous - you'd be saying to everyone who's
played the game "Oh no, that never happened. Here's what REALLY
happened" and that would just be asinine. Not to mention, I don't like
Disney endings, especially not given the backdrop of an interstellar
war.

So, here's my question back to you OP (a question I've asked
many times, and gotten hardly any responses on - funny that, innit?):
What would you be willing to sacrifice, in the game, to get your happy
ending with your little blue bubble babies and whatnot?

Modifié par Father_Jerusalem, 02 mai 2012 - 05:53 .

[Dexi]

Lee80alabama wrote...

People love to argue. I'd wager a large percentage of the pro-enders that spend so much time arguing against new ending options are just looking for a way to take out pent up aggression.

No, people taking out aggression here are all the nerdraging fans who would argue into oblivion about every little tiny microscopic detail that wasn't in ME3 as their imagination would have had it. 


The big "hate" on these forums for the endings come from that pent up aggression. 

[Tirigon]

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

I'm a pro-ender.

I'm in favor of the new ending. I said from the moment I beat the game that I'd love to see more added in, and when BioWare announced that they were doing just that - adding, not changing - that made me very happy.

So, I honestly don't know where this claim that pro-enders are unhappy about the new ending comes from, but... I'm not one of that group.

It comes because you are a nice, but rare exceptions.

Most pro-enders are just spiteful children and want to bereft others of their fun. That is all.

[The Razman]

Tirigon wrote...

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

I'm a pro-ender.

I'm in favor of the new ending. I said from the moment I beat the game that I'd love to see more added in, and when BioWare announced that they were doing just that - adding, not changing - that made me very happy.

So, I honestly don't know where this claim that pro-enders are unhappy about the new ending comes from, but... I'm not one of that group.

It comes because you are a nice, but rare exceptions.

Most pro-enders are just spiteful children and want to bereft others of their fun. That is all.

I honestly don't think any of what you refer to as "pro-enders" are against the Extended Cut. Adding extra clarification scenes isn't bad, that's fine. That's good, even.

It's the "we want totally new endings" crowd which people are against.

[Link Ashland 614]

Tirigon wrote...


Most pro-enders are just spiteful children and want to bereft others of their fun. That is all.

I've seen more of that behavior on people who hated the endings, and still complain like if there was no more important thing other than insult Bioware and such.

[NOD-INFORMER37]

gXs_2 wrote...

"pro-enders", "anti-enders", why do we have label people and turn each other into the enemy? We're all Mass Effect fans, with different opinions. No one is really "right" or "wrong".

Having said that, people that like the endings, in general, seem to be fine with the Extended Cut. But obviously they wouldn't want entirely new endings, since they like the existing ones.

I completely agree, why ppl honestly have to flame and hate each other over something we all (appearently) are fans of is beyond me. 

But on your second point, a new set of endings wouldnt take away from those who already do like the ending. It would be DLC and completely optional, unlike the current one we are all stuck with.  

[Coreniro]

Personally, I've never opposed to anything, as long as those who make stuff want to do it.
I believe that the extended cut was planned, not as a retcon, but as a link to whatever comes after ME3.
I wouldn't like to see a game company making games by adding features that players like, just to be sure that the game is gonna be sold. Not because "people who don't make stuff" can't criticize those who make stuff (everyone's free to say that ME3 is pure horse****), but because simple gamers don't know how to make it, so they end up asking for the impossible and being never satisfied. That's irritating. At least for me.
To those who think that they're not asking for the impossible, but just for what Bioware promised them through ads, I've got 2 things to say:
1:Ads are full of lies, they've always been full of lies, they'll always be full of lies, and if you believe what the ads say, it's your own problem.
2:Bioware started talking about ME3 too early. There's no way they could keep all the features they talked about in the game. Things change, people making stuff always change their mind, untill they run out of time and have to choose what to put in the stuff they're making.