Storm258 wrote...
Whacka wrote...
I wish she would though, even if it doesn't work like that. Obsessions aren't very healthy... (it is an obsession, right?)
Of some kind, yes. Even though you could argue that a happy, returned love still involves a kind of obsession to another person.
I mentioned that because it lays down the groundwork for the relationship between Shepard/Joker. I believe I said more than just that one sentence, but whatever.Storm258 wrote...
Aris Ravenstar wrote...
Joker is the only person who is with you from start to finish in every single game regardless of choice.
If this is supposed to be an argument, then you don't understand what is the purpose of a supporting character.
Grimwick wrote...
Then why post threads hating on the character when it is Bioware's fault there is such 'favouritism' (I still argue Garrus gets as good a deal as Liara). What Bioware did with the ME2 romances is awful and I fully support those trying to get them improved... but hating on a character for reasons outside of the character is unfair.
Also it doesn't matter if it is your opinion or not, it can still be offensive - especially if it is laced with snipes at fans of Liara.
masseffect5 wrote...
wasnt this not for people who like her i came on here to see all the mean things not defense
mrufka_z wrote...
masseffect5 wrote...
wasnt this not for people who like her i came on here to see all the mean things not defense
Oh, don't worry. We don't like her. We're just being civil about it
Reorte wrote...
I am the only one who doesn't love or hate Liara but is happy enough for my Shep to have her as a friend?
alec1898 wrote...
Civil arguments on forums? On the internet?
Impossibru.
Guest_Trust_*
Aris Ravenstar wrote...
Agreed with all of this. How could my Shepard possibly be best friends with someone who won't even give her breathing space? Liara is a stalker, not a friend. Speaking as someone who didn't speak to her at all in ME1, the two never had the chance to develop a friendship through shared experiences, Liara just pops up every now and then and has found out your entire life story through other sources. Creeeepy.Apathy1989 wrote...
Velocithon wrote...
I love Liara, but I can totally see how someone could feel she was just forced on you.
I think her role is supposed to be Shepard's closest friend.
The fact that she starts off as a romance, a very obvious one, makes her just seem creepy if the player doesn't persue it. Its hard for her to build into a close friend after that.
I mean I like Liara on the whole - she does have alot of annoying character traits though. Annoyingly self-righteous. Boring how little she reacted to her mothers death in ME1. In ME2 she came over as a bit crazy. Then ME3 she is a mary-sue.
My biggest complaint with her was her crying scene after Thessia. Earth is burning, Paladin is burning, and only Thessia makes her crack and whine like she deserves to be pampered. Everyone elses worlds have been burning for a while now.
Thessia annoyed me too. Like my Shepard doesn't have enough burdens to carry already, she has to put Liara back together as well. If Liara was truly a friend, she'd buck up and be strong for Shepard the way Garrus is. Ideally, the whole group should have had moments like that, but that's another rant. It's scenes like that that make it hard to like Liara, not because it's unrealistic that she'd be upset, but because it feels inconsiderate of what Shepard (and everyone else who is losing loved ones and homeworlds) has to deal with.
mrufka_z wrote...
For me, it was always like a schoolgirl's
crush on a teacher. And schoolgirls usually get over it very quickly.
Sure, some do marry their teachers, but it's still a minority.
Aris Ravenstar wrote...
I don't think you know what a supporting character is if you think Anderson is not a supporting character. His whole role in the story is his relationship with Shepard.
Catroi wrote...
Guest_SergeantSnookie_*
Modifié par SergeantSnookie, 02 mai 2012 - 10:33 .
Lamepro wrote...
Yorkston9152 wrote...
4stringwizard wrote...
Pretty much agreed on all points. This has been talked about a lot already. Bioware pretty much shoved Liara down our throats and gave her "plot armor". The attitude of many Liara fanboys/girls doesn't really help either. At least, the attitude of the vocal ones.
And, as I've said already, she wouldn't be nearly as popular as she is if she wasn't a perfect sex fantasy for male gamers.
yes because no one has ever run into a female gamer who went with Liara......
no really, there are no such things as female gamers
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>.>
Tell that to the female gamers on Youtube that were ranting about Mass Effect 3.
Modifié par The Angry One, 02 mai 2012 - 10:28 .
And again I say, I completely disagree.Storm258 wrote...
Anderson is an important character but not a supporting one. He more or less tells Shepard what to do, but doesn't actively support him to actually complete his missions or drive his personal story forward.
The Angry One wrote...
Lamepro wrote...
Yorkston9152 wrote...
4stringwizard wrote...
Pretty much agreed on all points. This has been talked about a lot already. Bioware pretty much shoved Liara down our throats and gave her "plot armor". The attitude of many Liara fanboys/girls doesn't really help either. At least, the attitude of the vocal ones.
And, as I've said already, she wouldn't be nearly as popular as she is if she wasn't a perfect sex fantasy for male gamers.
yes because no one has ever run into a female gamer who went with Liara......
no really, there are no such things as female gamers
<.<
>.>
Tell that to the female gamers on Youtube that were ranting about Mass Effect 3.
No he's right, we don't exist. We're figments of your imagination.
That's right you're going crazy.
OooooOOoooOooo.
sistersafetypin wrote...
Reorte wrote...
I am the only one who doesn't love or hate Liara but is happy enough for my Shep to have her as a friend?
lol, you might be
Aris Ravenstar wrote...
And again I say, I completely disagree.
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