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[sandboxgod]

On Topic: Has the Eagle been buffed since this old thread was originally created? I still dont have the N7 Eagle I am so thankful!

[Grunt_Platform]

Kuro_Fenikkusu wrote...

The n7 Eagle is a caster weapon. I like it. Its fast like an SMG, but much more accurate then the god awful hurricane. I use it on my n7 fury to strip shields, or finish off anything that survives a BE.

After two buffs, the Eagle is currently a decent side-arm if you've yet to unlock or max any of the following: Phalanx, Carnifex, Acolyte, Paladin.. When this post was made, it was flat out inferior to a Predator I.

The Hurricane is an amazing gun that has just about rendered every other SMG obsolete, but it's definitely got limited effective range.

Woot, posting in a necrothread.

sandboxgod wrote...

On Topic: Has the Eagle been buffed since this old thread was originally created? I still dont have the N7 Eagle I am so thankful!

Twice.

May 16th and June 5th. Check out the balance changes thread. They're looking at another buff for today.

Modifié par EvanKester, 25 septembre 2012 - 06:54 .

[Valmar]

Kuro_Fenikkusu wrote...

The n7 Eagle is a caster weapon. I like it. Its fast like an SMG, but much more accurate then the god awful hurricane. I use it on my n7 fury to strip shields, or finish off anything that survives a BE.

If you think the Hurrican is such rubbish, you should consider trying it with the SMG recoil and scope mod. Especially when on a Fury, since they tend to be in CQC most of the time anyway. Just a suggestion.

[corporal doody]

disagree.

Arc Pistol = worst pistol. exclamation mark!

[EVILFLUFFMONSTER]

Yes it has been buffed since, but it isn't very powerful. However it is light, and automatic, so I personally love it on my power spammers, even though its not the best choice.

I like it because it reminds me of my old ME1 pistol, which I want back.

Bioware have stated that it sits exactly where they want it for now, balance wise - though they are not against looking at it again in future (or something to that effect)

[ElectronicPostingInterface]

I wish the Eagle wasn't an SMG. It should be like, you know, a Desert Eagle.

[Jay_Hoxtatron]

corporal doody wrote...

disagree.

Arc Pistol = worst pistol. exclamation mark!

Yeah no. The Arc Pistol is quite decent.

[Kuro_Fenikkusu]

N7-Commander wrote...

Kuro_Fenikkusu wrote...

The n7 Eagle is a caster weapon. I like it. Its fast like an SMG, but much more accurate then the god awful hurricane. I use it on my n7 fury to strip shields, or finish off anything that survives a BE.

If you think the Hurrican is such rubbish, you should consider trying it with the SMG recoil and scope mod. Especially when on a Fury, since they tend to be in CQC most of the time anyway. Just a suggestion.

I don't have the recoil mod yet.  Sadly.  And I'd prefer a pistol as a side arm to an SMG.  And my fury build isn't CQC.  I didn't spec annihilation field.  I use dark channel as a primer and detonate with throw.

[capn233]

scheherazade wrote...

If you've used a turian soldier, max weapon damage/accuracy spec, the eagle 3 is better than most X assault rifles in the game. Hands down better if the ARs are held by non-turian-soldiers.

If by most you just mean the Avenger, Phaeston, GPR trio than maybe.

Human Soldier with Harrier, Mattock, Saber, Revenant or even Vindicator would be better.

Modifié par capn233, 25 septembre 2012 - 07:02 .

[SimulatedSnowman]

Kuro_Fenikkusu wrote...

N7-Commander wrote...

Kuro_Fenikkusu wrote...

The n7 Eagle is a caster weapon. I like it. Its fast like an SMG, but much more accurate then the god awful hurricane. I use it on my n7 fury to strip shields, or finish off anything that survives a BE.

If you think the Hurrican is such rubbish, you should consider trying it with the SMG recoil and scope mod. Especially when on a Fury, since they tend to be in CQC most of the time anyway. Just a suggestion.

I don't have the recoil mod yet.  Sadly.  And I'd prefer a pistol as a side arm to an SMG.  And my fury build isn't CQC.  I didn't spec annihilation field.  I use dark channel as a primer and detonate with throw.

Hm. Well I won't flat out scream "YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG!!!!!1", but if you think the Hurricane is god awful, and you use a Fury without Annihilation Field, then you at least have an extremely unusual viewpoint on how to effectively play multiplayer ME3.

[Kuro_Fenikkusu]

SimulatedSnowman wrote...

Kuro_Fenikkusu wrote...

N7-Commander wrote...

Kuro_Fenikkusu wrote...

The n7 Eagle is a caster weapon. I like it. Its fast like an SMG, but much more accurate then the god awful hurricane. I use it on my n7 fury to strip shields, or finish off anything that survives a BE.

If you think the Hurrican is such rubbish, you should consider trying it with the SMG recoil and scope mod. Especially when on a Fury, since they tend to be in CQC most of the time anyway. Just a suggestion.

I don't have the recoil mod yet.  Sadly.  And I'd prefer a pistol as a side arm to an SMG.  And my fury build isn't CQC.  I didn't spec annihilation field.  I use dark channel as a primer and detonate with throw.

Hm. Well I won't flat out scream "YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG!!!!!1", but if you think the Hurricane is god awful, and you use a Fury without Annihilation Field, then you at least have an extremely unusual viewpoint on how to effectively play multiplayer ME3.

Seeing as I've never had an unsuccessful platinum run with my N7 fury I wouldn't say I'm doing it wrong, perhaps I'm simply doing it differently.

[EVILFLUFFMONSTER]

corporal doody wrote...

disagree.

Arc Pistol = worst pistol. exclamation mark!

I disagree with you !

The arc pistol does great damage, it just has a slow firing speed due to having to charge it, and the main reason people dont like it is because you cant stay in cover while charging it..

However, you can quite easily pop in and out from behind walls, so on some maps its a negligible issue. If you have a fast trigger finger it can out-dps many of the popular weapons. It actually fires three shots at once when fully charged - which does about the same damage as the carnifex but bypasses shield gate.

The best use for it though I have found is on melee builds, as you discharge the shot when you melee, further increasing the damage(though the acolyte is now better for this).

Its not the best, nor is it the easiest to use , and yes it does have draw-backs - but its certainly not a bad weapon, its like carrying a predator and a carnifex at the same time, that is better against shields.

[Valmar]

Kuro_Fenikkusu wrote...
I don't have the recoil mod yet. Sadly. And I'd prefer a pistol as a side arm to an SMG. And my fury build isn't CQC. I didn't spec annihilation field. I use dark channel as a primer and detonate with throw.

Odd, according to your manifest you do have the SMG recoil mod. Also, I don't really understand your reasoning here. You prefer pistols as a side arm, yet you use the one pistol that behaves more like a SMG - something you even admit as being a reason you like it. Last I tried it (its been a while, I admit) the Eagle wasn't terribly accurate anyway, meaning you're probably need to be in fairly close range to be effective with it. A range in which the Hurrican would had been perfectly fine. It has a lot of recoil alone, but like I said, smack on those two mods and its very tolerable. Plus the weight different in cooldowns is hardly noticible. But thats just my view on it. Wheenver you do get the mod, you should give it Hurrican a try, see if it doesn't win you over. Just friendly advice though, you know, to each their own; play with whatever and however you want lol.

[sandboxgod]

Kuro_Fenikkusu wrote...

SimulatedSnowman wrote...

Kuro_Fenikkusu wrote...

N7-Commander wrote...

Kuro_Fenikkusu wrote...

The n7 Eagle is a caster weapon. I like it. Its fast like an SMG, but much more accurate then the god awful hurricane. I use it on my n7 fury to strip shields, or finish off anything that survives a BE.

If you think the Hurrican is such rubbish, you should consider trying it with the SMG recoil and scope mod. Especially when on a Fury, since they tend to be in CQC most of the time anyway. Just a suggestion.

I don't have the recoil mod yet.  Sadly.  And I'd prefer a pistol as a side arm to an SMG.  And my fury build isn't CQC.  I didn't spec annihilation field.  I use dark channel as a primer and detonate with throw.

Hm. Well I won't flat out scream "YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG!!!!!1", but if you think the Hurricane is god awful, and you use a Fury without Annihilation Field, then you at least have an extremely unusual viewpoint on how to effectively play multiplayer ME3.

Seeing as I've never had an unsuccessful platinum run with my N7 fury I wouldn't say I'm doing it wrong, perhaps I'm simply doing it differently.

Like that other guy said the Hurricane is great on an N7 Fury. I'm usually at least 2nd on the scoreboard usually. I run with Hurricane 3 + Acolyte X with her. Acolyte for stripping shields from phantoms or banshees (platnium).

Perhaps you are like me. When I first got my N7 Fury I had no idea how to really use Anilation Field. There was a youtube vid a guy posted that shows how to use it proper. I can dig up the link

 

Not my vid btw; there was a thread bout this vid a few days ago


edit- Btw my build is like a 6/6/6/0/6. I focus on biotic detonations. 

Modifié par sandboxgod, 25 septembre 2012 - 07:27 .

[corporal doody]

Jay_Hoxtatron wrote...

corporal doody wrote...

disagree.

Arc Pistol = worst pistol. exclamation mark!

Yeah no. The Arc Pistol is quite decent.

as is the N7 Eagle.

[ryanshowseason3]

Kuro_Fenikkusu wrote...

The n7 Eagle is a caster weapon. I like it. Its fast like an SMG, but much more accurate then the god awful hurricane. I use it on my n7 fury to strip shields, or finish off anything that survives a BE.

Hurricane awful? All the bullets don't have to hit to make the gun great. Also don't aim downsights. Fire from the hip with the hurricane.

[Grunt_Platform]

corporal doody wrote...

Jay_Hoxtatron wrote...

corporal doody wrote...

disagree.

Arc Pistol = worst pistol. exclamation mark!

Yeah no. The Arc Pistol is quite decent.

as is the N7 Eagle.

N7 Eagle is weaker than the Arc Pistol. But it would be decent if it were the same rank as everything it's being compared to. 

But that's not the standard promotional weapons are judged on. Promotional weapons have to hold up even at relatively low ranks. It's -almost- there.

[Kuro_Fenikkusu]

N7-Commander wrote...

Kuro_Fenikkusu wrote...
I don't have the recoil mod yet. Sadly. And I'd prefer a pistol as a side arm to an SMG. And my fury build isn't CQC. I didn't spec annihilation field. I use dark channel as a primer and detonate with throw.

Odd, according to your manifest you do have the SMG recoil mod. Also, I don't really understand your reasoning here. You prefer pistols as a side arm, yet you use the one pistol that behaves more like a SMG - something you even admit as being a reason you like it. Last I tried it (its been a while, I admit) the Eagle wasn't terribly accurate anyway, meaning you're probably need to be in fairly close range to be effective with it. A range in which the Hurrican would had been perfectly fine. It has a lot of recoil alone, but like I said, smack on those two mods and its very tolerable. Plus the weight different in cooldowns is hardly noticible. But thats just my view on it. Wheenver you do get the mod, you should give it Hurrican a try, see if it doesn't win you over. Just friendly advice though, you know, to each their own; play with whatever and however you want lol.

Maybe I got it and didn't notice.  Odd.  I never use SMGs so thats probably why.  I like that the eagle behaves like an SMG an ACCURATE at mid-close range.  That being said as a fury I'm rarely firing my weapon anyway.  I'll give the hurricane another go sometime see what happens.
 

[corporal doody]

EvanKester wrote...

corporal doody wrote...

Jay_Hoxtatron wrote...

corporal doody wrote...

disagree.

Arc Pistol = worst pistol. exclamation mark!

Yeah no. The Arc Pistol is quite decent.

as is the N7 Eagle.

N7 Eagle is weaker than the Arc Pistol. But it would be decent if it were the same rank as everything it's being compared to. 

But that's not the standard promotional weapons are judged on. Promotional weapons have to hold up even at relatively low ranks. It's -almost- there.

too true.

but eagle 1...never used.
eagle 2...only up to silver
eagle 3....been rocking on my AA and Fury. ap mod and extended barrel. with commando gear, pistol amp, warp ammo, and the stability equipment (though it isnt really needed...just nice for those long range shots). really nice weapon due to its rate of fire.

Modifié par corporal doody, 25 septembre 2012 - 07:38 .

[Kuro_Fenikkusu]

sandboxgod wrote...

Kuro_Fenikkusu wrote...

SimulatedSnowman wrote...

Kuro_Fenikkusu wrote...

N7-Commander wrote...

Kuro_Fenikkusu wrote...

The n7 Eagle is a caster weapon. I like it. Its fast like an SMG, but much more accurate then the god awful hurricane. I use it on my n7 fury to strip shields, or finish off anything that survives a BE.

If you think the Hurrican is such rubbish, you should consider trying it with the SMG recoil and scope mod. Especially when on a Fury, since they tend to be in CQC most of the time anyway. Just a suggestion.

I don't have the recoil mod yet.  Sadly.  And I'd prefer a pistol as a side arm to an SMG.  And my fury build isn't CQC.  I didn't spec annihilation field.  I use dark channel as a primer and detonate with throw.

Hm. Well I won't flat out scream "YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG!!!!!1", but if you think the Hurricane is god awful, and you use a Fury without Annihilation Field, then you at least have an extremely unusual viewpoint on how to effectively play multiplayer ME3.

Seeing as I've never had an unsuccessful platinum run with my N7 fury I wouldn't say I'm doing it wrong, perhaps I'm simply doing it differently.

Like that other guy said the Hurricane is great on an N7 Fury. I'm usually at least 2nd on the scoreboard usually. I run with Hurricane 3 + Acolyte X with her. Acolyte for stripping shields from phantoms or banshees (platnium).

Perhaps you are like me. When I first got my N7 Fury I had no idea how to really use Anilation Field. There was a youtube vid a guy posted that shows how to use it proper. I can dig up the link

 

Not my vid btw; there was a thread bout this vid a few days ago


edit- Btw my build is like a 6/6/6/0/6. I focus on biotic detonations. 

You are correct.  I don't know how to use it, but only because I've never tried it.  The build I'm using is the first build I tried, and it has worked quite well for me.  My build is  0/6/6/6/6 the eagle I carry is rarely if ever fired.  It's simply not necessary for me to shoot very often on gold or lower, on platnium I fire a few bursts occasionally during the 2-3 second cooldown between a DC and a throw.

Modifié par Kuro_Fenikkusu, 25 septembre 2012 - 07:41 .

[sandboxgod]

That's an interesting build Kuro. I've never tried that one.

[Kuro_Fenikkusu]

sandboxgod wrote...

That's an interesting build Kuro. I've never tried that one.

It works pretty well for me, I might try out a build with Annihilation field though, I've been curious about it since I got my hands on the Fury.

[jcamdenlane]

sandboxgod wrote...

Kuro_Fenikkusu wrote...

SimulatedSnowman wrote...

Kuro_Fenikkusu wrote...

N7-Commander wrote...

Kuro_Fenikkusu wrote...

The n7 Eagle is a caster weapon. I like it. Its fast like an SMG, but much more accurate then the god awful hurricane. I use it on my n7 fury to strip shields, or finish off anything that survives a BE.

If you think the Hurrican is such rubbish, you should consider trying it with the SMG recoil and scope mod. Especially when on a Fury, since they tend to be in CQC most of the time anyway. Just a suggestion.

I don't have the recoil mod yet.  Sadly.  And I'd prefer a pistol as a side arm to an SMG.  And my fury build isn't CQC.  I didn't spec annihilation field.  I use dark channel as a primer and detonate with throw.

Hm. Well I won't flat out scream "YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG!!!!!1", but if you think the Hurricane is god awful, and you use a Fury without Annihilation Field, then you at least have an extremely unusual viewpoint on how to effectively play multiplayer ME3.

Seeing as I've never had an unsuccessful platinum run with my N7 fury I wouldn't say I'm doing it wrong, perhaps I'm simply doing it differently.

Like that other guy said the Hurricane is great on an N7 Fury. I'm usually at least 2nd on the scoreboard usually. I run with Hurricane 3 + Acolyte X with her. Acolyte for stripping shields from phantoms or banshees (platnium).

Perhaps you are like me. When I first got my N7 Fury I had no idea how to really use Anilation Field. There was a youtube vid a guy posted that shows how to use it proper. I can dig up the link

 

Not my vid btw; there was a thread bout this vid a few days ago


edit- Btw my build is like a 6/6/6/0/6. I focus on biotic detonations. 

I don't know why people let the fury's cqc prowess obscure the fact that she's also the best ranged caster in the game.   Neglecting annihilation field is no more "doing it wrong" than neglecting dark channel.  I like to use both, as needed, but either playstyle is individually effective. Speccing out of throw?  Now that's "doing it wrong."  

[Virgil Sweetlove]

Last week there was a post that the eagle will be buffed this week, but I cant find it anymore

[Grunt_Platform]

The N7 Eagle is finally at a point where I don't think using it is kick worthy. It actually does have fairly decent DPS for it's low weight. If you prefer its handling, that's probably enough to make it worth using over some of the other light pistols. It's not ideal, the Phalanx and the Carnifex are still better, but it's not the pathetic joke it used to be.