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[hihey54]

N7Kopper wrote...

Krozuhsky wrote...



How would you even buff this-- scratch that, how would you even nerf it? 

Give it monstrous damage, enable friendly fire, and put in a special tag so that it heals any enemy you shoot with it.
Best. Gun. Ever.

I would love to have this gun, then!

[Indenter]

It's supposed to be a better version of the phalanx. If the Alliance research achieved Eagle from Phalanx, they should be hanged. Or at least payed less. In fact since everyone is a winner in the future, they should be punished by being made overweight and fat.

[Kilshrek]

It also has the worst target spread for a pistol. Even up close I can't get consistent headshots. Want a reliable pistol that isn't too heavy? Phalanx. Want a straight up hand cannon? Carnifex.

Never take the supposed N7 (for elites, REALLY?) weapons, barring the Valiant. Crusader is outdone by the Graal Spike Thrower and Geth Shotgun,, the Hurricane has ridiculous recoil, a Locust is the better bet. Only the Valiant shines as an N7 weapon, and that's because it's a hard hitting semi-auto sniper rifle.

[a ViciousFerret]

Nah, Hurricane does insane damage. You just have to deal with the recoil.

Can't wait to try it out on a Turian Soldier.

[Krozuhsky]

Kilshrek wrote...

It also has the worst target spread for a pistol. Even up close I can't get consistent headshots. Want a reliable pistol that isn't too heavy? Phalanx. Want a straight up hand cannon? Carnifex.

Never take the supposed N7 (for elites, REALLY?) weapons, barring the Valiant. Crusader is outdone by the Graal Spike Thrower and Geth Shotgun,, the Hurricane has ridiculous recoil, a Locust is the better bet. Only the Valiant shines as an N7 weapon, and that's because it's a hard hitting semi-auto sniper rifle.

The Hurricane isn't that bad after the buff in the right hands, especially when a Turian soldier uses it. With Marksman, you can make it precise and it's stronger then the Locust. 

[GodlessPaladin]

The Locust is pretty weak period.  Only the Shuriken does less damage than it.

Modifié par GodlessPaladin, 03 mai 2012 - 12:12 .

[l76016639]

n7 eagle is similar with G18.. and G18 is very reliable and trusted firepower.
It is just not good at ME3 system.
Not only eagle, but also all of full-automatic weapons.

All of SMG, most of rifle...they are same kind victim.

[Krozuhsky]

l76016639 wrote...

n7 eagle is similar with G18.. and G18 is very reliable and trusted firepower.
It is just not good at ME3 system.
Not only eagle, but also all of full-automatic weapons.

All of SMG, most of rifle...they are same kind victim.

Wrong, with the Geth Engineer, you can make a the Geth Plasma SMG work, Turian Soldiers have Marksman, making the Hurricane an extremely good weapon.

[brummbrumm]

can`t wait to get my eagle III tonight. its a perfect weapon to get rid of all those nasty swarmes - if you aim properly, you can even oneshot them with a cloaked headshot.

[Kilshrek]

Krozuhsky wrote...

The Hurricane isn't that bad after the buff in the right hands, especially when a Turian soldier uses it. With Marksman, you can make it precise and it's stronger then the Locust. 

Why not a Revenant with damage/piercing/stability mod then? SMG's have no piercing mods.

[Krozuhsky]

Kilshrek wrote...

Krozuhsky wrote...

The Hurricane isn't that bad after the buff in the right hands, especially when a Turian soldier uses it. With Marksman, you can make it precise and it's stronger then the Locust. 

Why not a Revenant with damage/piercing/stability mod then? SMG's have no piercing mods.

Well, that works for the Turian Soldier, but you wouldn't equip a Revenant on a Geth Engineer, would you?

Modifié par Krozuhsky, 03 mai 2012 - 12:42 .

[Quixal]

This thread seems an appropriate place to express my excitement over getting an Eagle III.

This truly is a weak weapon. Now that I have gotten improvements for it a few times I think I can extrapolate out and see that I will still not be using the gun in seven more events when it is at maximum level.

Still, other guns have gotten some love from the devs so I have hopes that the Eagle will see some improvement at some point in the near future.

Modifié par Quixal, 03 mai 2012 - 12:44 .

[Relix28]

You guys are a bunch of newbz. The N7 Eagle is an extremely powerful weapon, if you know how to use it. And that is, that you leave it alone and equip a [insert any other weapon name here] instead.

Seriously though, I only used it twice to see what's up. And I'm never using it again, unless it gets a ginormous buff.

[Kilshrek]

Krozuhsky wrote...

Well, that works for the Turian Soldier, but you wouldn't equip a Revenant on a Geth Engineer, would you?

Yeah, but you just mentioned the Turian soldier?

Gethgineer? I slapped a GPR on him, cause I took the damage buffs, but with no piercing mod I couldn't do squat damage against anything with armour. I contented myself with being the ultimate support dude. I hide behind Krogans and human vanguards. Just pop out the turret in the area of the human vanguard and you save yourself the trouble of having to revive them every 5 seconds. 

But then I got sick of the GPS doing squat damage on everything, and took the Vindicator. Still, how is the Hurrican useful for casters? IIRC it's a touch heavy, so you may as well take an AR?

[Lexa_D]

Kilshrek wrote...

Krozuhsky wrote...

The Hurricane isn't that bad after the buff in the right hands, especially when a Turian soldier uses it. With Marksman, you can make it precise and it's stronger then the Locust. 

Why not a Revenant with damage/piercing/stability mod then? SMG's have no piercing mods.

They can have AP ammo though and with it deliver much better than Revenant - at least Hornet and Hurricane

[tvih]

SeijiTataki wrote...

Should point out that the Eagle is pretty much in every way superior to the predator (sans weight), and it's full automatic nature means that it's the only heavy pistol that can 'properly' benefit from Marksman's bonuses. It's still got a pretty terrible recoil, but if you're used to handling it, it pretty much replaces the predator as a damage option (but not a weight based decision), making it a decent pistol for a Turian Soldier. I've played around with it to moderate success in single player, but don't have it in multiplayer to objectively speak on my play experience there.

Why the hell does Predator have such a bad rep on these forums? It's actually a very decent gun. And superior to the Eagle in every single way aside from not having full auto if you happen to be lazy with your clicking. Besides, why would a Turian Soldier want to carry either of the two damage purposes anyway? Especially with Eagle, you're much better off carrying an SMG anyway.

[3XT3RM1N4TUS]

brummbrumm wrote...

can`t wait to get my eagle III tonight. its a perfect weapon to get rid of all those nasty swarmes - if you aim properly, you can even oneshot them with a cloaked headshot.

And we have Internet winner today!

[Srau]

Very light, full auto with high fire rate, ok aim/recoil even at long range when in cover, high clip capacity ...
In gold that's enough to ninja damage shields between explosions for lazy mouse clickers adepts like me.
On the other hand if ULM was working "as intented™" (hint hint hint BioWare kplzthxla~) i'd dump it straight away.

[ryanshowseason3]

I had the unfortunate event yesterday of opening a commendation pack only to find a pile of dog excrement in the bottom of it. Beneath the foul sludge laid my "reward" a N7 Eagle. The package did not have a return address so unfortunately I cannot return it or exchange it.

I attempted to use it in a single match against reapers. I equipped a damage mod at lvl 5 and a scope.

I was surprised that the weapon is indeed fully automatic and hoped perhaps the dps might be better than I suspected.

Alas when using it in scope it climbs, a pistol that climbs like an smg! What will they invent next? A shotgun with no spread? A gun you can't hit anything with?

I scored body shots on a cannibal on bronze. It took more than half the clip to bring the creature down. I was forced to use submission net on ravagers, brutes and banshees as the Eagle practically plinked off them as they laughed.

I switched to my easily obtained predator X, recruit packs unlocked it within 2 days of playing bronze matches. It doesn't kill banshees or brutes too well, but it doesn't climb, had better accuracy and fires as fast as I desire.

I beseech bioware to make an N7 weapon of incredible rarity at least better than a weapon everyone starts out with.

Getting this gun is the equivalent of someone pointing at you while screaming "HA HA"

Modifié par ryanshowseason3, 03 mai 2012 - 01:27 .

[tvih]

Srau wrote...

Very light, full auto with high fire rate, ok aim/recoil even at long range when in cover, high clip capacity ...
In gold that's enough to ninja damage shields between explosions for lazy mouse clickers adepts like me.
On the other hand if ULM was working "as intented™" (hint hint hint BioWare kplzthxla~) i'd dump it straight away.

If using only one gun, why would you need ULM for an SMG? As an only weapon, it's easy to get 200% with an SMG.

[Srau]

tvih wrote...

Srau wrote...

Very light, full auto with high fire rate, ok aim/recoil even at long range when in cover, high clip capacity ...
In gold that's enough to ninja damage shields between explosions for lazy mouse clickers adepts like me.
On the other hand if ULM was working "as intented™" (hint hint hint BioWare kplzthxla~) i'd dump it straight away.

If using only one gun, why would you need ULM for an SMG? As an only weapon, it's easy to get 200% with an SMG.

I can't remember if i spec'ed weight limit bonus or not  ... must be old age.

Just like that, without being able to check in game (thanks EA btw) and from memory only the Shuriken allows 200% and, Geth SMG  with its working ULM since he is the only one.
Shuriken is about same DPS but eats ammos like a spoiled child eats candy and Geth SMG is charging, i hate charging.

[haisho]

Kilshrek wrote...

Krozuhsky wrote...

The Hurricane isn't that bad after the buff in the right hands, especially when a Turian soldier uses it. With Marksman, you can make it precise and it's stronger then the Locust. 

Why not a Revenant with damage/piercing/stability mod then? SMG's have no piercing mods.

Because the Hurricane does stupid huge damage per bullet for an SMG. Heck, it has above average damage compared to ARs, and paired with it's ridiculous rate of fire, it shreds pretty much anything in an instant once recoil is controlled.

It's a stupid good bullet hose and pretty much the only useful SMG that is universally good against practically any sort of protection.

Modifié par haisho, 03 mai 2012 - 01:44 .

[tvih]

Srau wrote...

I can't remember if i spec'ed weight limit bonus or not  ... must be old age.

Just like that, without being able to check in game (thanks EA btw) and from memory only the Shuriken allows 200% and, Geth SMG  with its working ULM since he is the only one.
Shuriken is about same DPS but eats ammos like a spoiled child eats candy and Geth SMG is charging, i hate charging.

Well, N7 Eagle I weighs 0.6. Tempest and Locust (as well as GSMG) weigh 0.65 at I, down to 0.3 at X. Hornet is 0.85-0.45. And all are better than the Eagle. Shuriken is too - and in fact if you put a Heat Sink on it, it doesn't eat up the ammo all that fast.

Besides, something like 10% here or there isn't really much of a difference in the cooldown bonus.

[tvih]

haisho wrote...

It's a stupid good bullet hose and pretty much the only useful SMG that is universally good against practically any sort of protection.

Hornet works well against armor too once you get it upgraded. Not as well as the Hurricane of course, but around 500 DPS against armor is no slouch either.