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[Cuchonchuir]

When you look at how powerful some weapons like the Valiant are, I just can't figure out why they wouldn't make the Eagle at least "good".

As for the Crusader, I feel like they could easily boost its damage by half again and it'd then just be good, not overpowered. Black Widow would still do more damage per shot. They could slow the reload or something if they thought that was too good for some bizarre reason.

[GodlessPaladin]

stribies wrote...

So I just got this weapon and tested it. And holy hell, you guys are not kidding about how bad it is. It makes the geth pulse rifle look AMAZING. It has LESS DAMAGE THAN A geth pulse rifle and the accuracy of the revenant.

Fixed that for you.

Modifié par GodlessPaladin, 04 mai 2012 - 05:53 .

[stribies]

Cuchonchuir wrote...

When you look at how powerful some weapons like the Valiant are, I just can't figure out why they wouldn't make the Eagle at least "good".

As for the Crusader, I feel like they could easily boost its damage by half again and it'd then just be good, not overpowered. Black Widow would still do more damage per shot. They could slow the reload or something if they thought that was too good for some bizarre reason.

The same reason why half the guns suck in this game.

[Variasaber]

Badpanzer wrote...

Grimy Bunyip wrote...

how would you unnerf this gun?
straight up damage per shot increase or something fancy?

Make it a full auto Phalanx maybe?
At least it would give people a pistol that didnt need frantic button mashing or super aiming skills to be useful..

The description says it's supposed to be a full-auto Phalanx anyway. Devs oughta make that happen. I haven't actually tried the thing yet though, so while you all are very convincing, I'm going to hold off on passing judgment until I've actually tried the thing.

[Asebstos]

The accuracy on the Eagle is bad?

I don't think its too bad, but I don't put a scope on it so I don't really bother with the long-range shots. It definitely could use a damage boost though.

[Megachaz]

Don't have it, but I just looked at the charts and... wow. I feel sorry for you Eagle getters. That's like dog crap for Christmas.

[Blind2Society]

capn233 wrote...

I solo gold with the Eagle on the reg. And I also top the scoreboards.

I usually hate this statement but..... vid or it didn't happen.

[ValorOfArms777]

just needs dmg equal to the predator honestly that's it's only lacking >_> cause used as a automatic weapon gives it the ability to act closer akin to a oddity hybred of SMG and Pistol proper uses of it are similar to the GPR or the rediclously fast GPSMG wher eyou attach a round like incendiary or cryo to cause effect manipulation if you can control the recoil the other problem it wouldn't be so bad atm it's possible to use but you need equipment ammo

crusader... is a HIGH accuracy slug gun with a 1 meter pierce... it's not a shotgun it's a logn distance sniper in a shotgun form >_> your using it wrong if you paln on clos eup confrontations it's a "pin point" gun and best used on big targets liek atlas brutes it's quite a gun but it's clsoe rang uses are a tad downsides in comparison lucky it's 1 shot so "ban" all miss shots are users fault if scoped single shooting so taht gun .. is not bad at all you just have no idea how it works some guns have better uses that others like Falcon is best for stagger small units like phantoms striker itself seems to be more useful against large units like atlas due to it's horrific recoil in rapid mode and the fact it shoots projectiles the foes that can dodge roll could potential "avoid" it like a power unliek falcon grenades which are a real time projectile and not a hitscan like most guns

*edit* sorry I was tired when I wrote this so any inability to read this is my fault and I'm sorry*

Modifié par ValorOfArms777, 04 mai 2012 - 07:12 .

[tzabaothg]

It needs a LOT of work.

Besides the absolutely worst dps in the game, period, you also have to deal with the accuracy problems and the recoil. Neither are extremely bad but they must be accounted for via spec perks or mods.

There is absolutely zero reason to ever use this weapon. Even if the dps was boosted to reasonable levels you still have to contend with the recoil and spread.

[Grimmwold]

Variasaber wrote...

Badpanzer wrote...

Grimy Bunyip wrote...

how would you unnerf this gun?
straight up damage per shot increase or something fancy?

Make it a full auto Phalanx maybe?
At least it would give people a pistol that didnt need frantic button mashing or super aiming skills to be useful..

The description says it's supposed to be a full-auto Phalanx anyway. Devs oughta make that happen. I haven't actually tried the thing yet though, so while you all are very convincing, I'm going to hold off on passing judgment until I've actually tried the thing.

Don't bother.  It's a junk weapon.

If you're comparing it, ignore the flavor text.  It's a slow full auto predator.  It has similar damage/accuracy(eagle I is slightly lower than a predator X), is limited to somewhere around 3-4 rounds per second(which is pretty slow), but is quite a bit heavier.

Predator X beats out Eagle.  Very sad considering one is an n7 commendation pack weap and the other is a common.

[Srau]

tvih wrote...

Srau wrote...

I can't remember if i spec'ed weight limit bonus or not  ... must be old age.

Just like that, without being able to check in game (thanks EA btw) and from memory only the Shuriken allows 200% and, Geth SMG  with its working ULM since he is the only one.
Shuriken is about same DPS but eats ammos like a spoiled child eats candy and Geth SMG is charging, i hate charging.

Well, N7 Eagle I weighs 0.6. Tempest and Locust (as well as GSMG) weigh 0.65 at I, down to 0.3 at X. Hornet is 0.85-0.45. And all are better than the Eagle. Shuriken is too - and in fact if you put a Heat Sink on it, it doesn't eat up the ammo all that fast.

Besides, something like 10% here or there isn't really much of a difference in the cooldown bonus.

Problem solved, just got Hurrican out of commendation pack ... see that smile on my face ?

[mcjihge2]

If the recoil was much reduced it would be OK. As it stands i think its called the eagle because everytime you shoot, you hit a bird.

[Aethyl]

Tried it with a Turian Soldier, not this bad actually, since it's a smg where you can put a perforating mod.
I sort of like it as a backup weapon.

[ElectroNeonPanda]

mcjihge2 wrote...

If the recoil was much reduced it would be OK. As it stands i think its called the eagle because everytime you shoot, you hit a bird.

Very good. 

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[Serkevan]

Let's see. 43 damage per bullet at level 1. 53 at level 10. A cannibal on gold has 2200 health points. A full-headshot clip on it and it.wont.die. A predator 10 CAN kill a cannibal in like 10 headshots, and it has good accuracy and shoots fast as hell if you can click enough times. Hell, a predator level 1 has more damage than this thing at level 10, while sporting less weight, a higher RoF and better accuracy.

[ryanshowseason3]

GodlessPaladin wrote...

Fins_T wrote...
Right now hurricane is god-like in hands of a turian soldier. Max Marksman for rate of fire, use stability module 3, +25% damage and 45% chance not to use ammo upgrades, armor-piercing ammo III and SMG rail III, and Hurricane becomes deadlier than anything else i tried in this game.

I think that's a bit of an exaggeration.  The Hurricane becomes good in the hands of a Turian Soldier if you are willing to spend a load of equipment on it.

Look at the balance changes for it. It is the highest dps weapon there is right now, AND they reduced the recoil. If you can improve the accuracy to hit things spot on it WILL tear through faster than any other gun in the game bar none.

It does more damage per bullet than a mattock, revenant or raptor... An smg that does more damage per bullet than a semi auto sniper...

Seriously if you can aim it theres nothing better. I say this because of a regular teamate of mine who has it at II atlases turtle and cry when he whips it out.

Modifié par ryanshowseason3, 04 mai 2012 - 12:43 .

[ryanshowseason3]

Serkevan wrote...

Let's see. 43 damage per bullet at level 1. 53 at level 10. A cannibal on gold has 2200 health points. A full-headshot clip on it and it.wont.die. A predator 10 CAN kill a cannibal in like 10 headshots, and it has good accuracy and shoots fast as hell if you can click enough times. Hell, a predator level 1 has more damage than this thing at level 10, while sporting less weight, a higher RoF and better accuracy.

^This. It is literally worse than the first weapon you got in the game.

[derpyderpderpin]

This whole conversation makes me laugh because I happen to love the eagle there is nothing wrong with the gun its good if u know how to use it you can easily use it an entire game and do good

[tvih]

derpyderpderpin wrote...

This whole conversation makes me laugh because I happen to love the eagle there is nothing wrong with the gun its good if u know how to use it you can easily use it an entire game and do good

Sorry but posts like this are what make me laugh. No matter how well you "know how to use it" it is still a stupidly bad gun compared to any other alternative available in the game.

[Acyl]

It still irks me that Bioware claims they specially looked at these guns for balance before releasing them as weekend rewards. Seriously? What kind of balance pass was that?

The Eagle's not useless, but it's just inferior to the other pistols and the SMGs. And the description even lies to you. Accurate, rapid-fire pistol? Pfft. C'mon. 

Saying that 'hey, it's kinda like an SMG, but you can put an armor-piercing mod on it since it's a pistol' is not an answer. It really isn't. And I have reason to be annoyed, since I'm a proud owner of an Eagle II.

The gun needs some kind of buff. Bioware's been fixing weapons, there's no reason they can't fix this one. And they really have to fix this one, because it's supposed to be a reward, not a joke.

Modifié par Acyl, 04 mai 2012 - 02:38 .

[wKmike]

Hmm. that's a shame. I remember the first using the eagle. I put a scope on it, and after 3 waves. I refused to use it again.. With all these people comparing guns to the Predator X... Starting to make the Predator sound good...

[Sho am good]

Wish i could trade my Eagle III for a Valiant.

[RaptorSolutions]

Ewww... this gun is like a damn pea shooter, at least a GPR kills something.

[RageBattle]

The Eagle needs something other then just stat boosts that separates it from the other guns. Right now, it's only defining characteristic is that it's completely worthless. Even the Crusader could probably use something too, given the abundance of shotguns.

[Tangster]

wKmike wrote...

Hmm. that's a shame. I remember the first using the eagle. I put a scope on it, and after 3 waves. I refused to use it again.. With all these people comparing guns to the Predator X... Starting to make the Predator sound good...

Actually, people have been comparing it to a Predator I as well. Still loses.

Modifié par Tangster, 04 mai 2012 - 02:57 .