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[Thylbanus]

After being a beta tester for SWTOR and seeing how little our opinions mattered, I wanted to see the player reviews of ME3 before I bought it.  As an informed gamer, I like to get a feel for a game franchise before I buy in.  Since my massive disappointment of Star Wars Galaxies (yea, I was one of those limited edition idiots), I learned NEVER to buy in whole heartedly BEFORE a game is released.  It seems I'm not disappointed.  But reading all the nerd rage and angst over the ending, I found myself compelled to coalesce the experience with my own take on business decisions and direction.  So here it is, even though you don't want to hear it.  Maybe someone will copy this and post it on the ME3 site for me.  (Thanks for anyone who does). 

So here it is:
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I believe I need to coalesce the ire over the ending of ME3. People have said that you lied when you stated that there will be no A, B, or C ending. Well you didn't. You gave us ending Z. So you didn't lie exactly. Ending A, B, or C would have at least been OUR ending, instead Z is YOUR ending. This is where the heart lies. We were decieved throughout the series into thinking that this was OUR story, when you were only giving us YOUR story. I understand that you need to stand by your people, but it's the fans that keep you running. Ending Z removes all that we strove for and made it all mean nothing. We invested ourselves into our characters, but it is now barren and empty because it is YOUR ending.

Sure it has caused a LOT or discussion, but at what price? Your stock has been on a steady decline since the beginning of the year. TOR isn't what the fans wanted and you are seeing that now. Five months in and it's been on sale three times to my count, progressively more and more of a discount each time. Now you throw free months and titles at members to buy their loyalty rather than address the problem. Gimmicks woun't stem this flow. I was in the beta for the last five builds before launch and the problems the community is voicing is the same that we voiced when I first joined the beta. You (Bioware and EA) have abandoned your fans and you are feeling it. We hope because of your history, but everytime you let us down and we now questioning that loyalty. You are a business, but not a game development business, you are an entertainment business. A service. The demand of your clients must take precidence over personal "artistic freedom" or company policy. You released your claim to "artistic expression" when you made it interactive. To admit a mistake, to be contrite, isn't weakness. You might think that such admission will drive your stock even lower. While that may be true in the short run, in the long run it will bear fruit. Admitting mistakes takes courage, fixing them takes dedication. The same dedication that your fanbase has shown you. Show them that they matter.

Just look at Metacritic and see the overall scores of the fans for your last three games, DA2, TOR, and ME3. It's a downward spiral that indicates that you have lost track of your fans. The professional critics as well. The critics are wrapped up in the same mentality that you are. This is a fundamental disconnect with the community and it must be rectified. All this number crunching has set up a false idea of what we want. Making the game approachable to everyone has made things mundane and boring. In your sports games are you going to inject a fighting combo into Football and Hockey to appeal to the fighting game market? Or introduce backroom politics and missions into them for the role-playing segment? Making things homogeneous has made things boring. Learn from your mistakes like CCP did. They started to ignore their fans and do things their own way and almost lost the company. They had the courage to admit what was wrong and promise to make amends and it seems to be paying off.

Common knowledge in the service industry is that if a client has a bad experience, the will tell around 9 people. A good one only gets around 3, but a bad experience corrected yields around 13. Right now you are recieving a LOT of bad press for this. It is started to become evident with charging for ALL DLCs back in Neverwinter. Show that we are more to you than just a wallet. You are a service provider. The service is entertainment. Start thinking outside the box and stop blaming the economy. Entertainment is escapism and in bad times we WANT to escape! You should be doing better, not worse.

All I ask is that you show the same loyalty to your fans that we have shown you. We don't want speeches or rhetoric, we want action. Give us the ability to reclaim our Shepards and make multiple endings, REAL multiple endings. Charge for the expansion if you will, but making it free would bear more fruit in the end. Admit that you have lost touch, that all the marketing data has lead to wrong conclusions and rectify it. Sitting on your hands until it blows over and you will not have the buy in for future works. I was interested in Syndicate, but after the letdown of ME3, I woun't be buying it. I can already expect a great story, but it woun't be mine. I expect it to be boring and homogeneous. Forgettable in the end.  I went back and replayed ME1 and 2 just to kill my Shepard off at the end of ME2 so that I have MY ending, not yours. I feel complete in this way. Closure. Everyone died, I have closure there. My LI died with me and I am complete because of it.

Just give us what you implied and let us take back OUR story. 

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I woun't buy ME3 or any Bioware game until you do.

[Aggie Punbot]

Suck it up and deal with it.

ETA: Seriously, deal with it. That is one way of separating the people who actually bought and played the game from people who just played it. You want to take a moral stance? Great. Don't whine about the consequences of your choices.

Modifié par TS2Aggie, 04 mai 2012 - 04:36 .

[Davillo]

People buy computer games?

[From Tuchanka with Love]

Your opinion is irrelevant and no one cares. I'm just being honest. Everyone is talking about this and you're not adding anything new to the argument; you don't want to play a good game (subjectively)? That's your choice. Let things keep youfrom having fun and continue taking things like video games too seriously. You'll never be happy.

Modifié par From Tuchanka with Love, 04 mai 2012 - 05:15 .

[Thylbanus]

TS2Aggie wrote...

Suck it up and deal with it.

ETA: Seriously, deal with it. That is one way of separating the people who actually bought and played the game from people who just played it. You want to take a moral stance? Great. Don't whine about the consequences of your choices.

 Really?  I can't play it on X-Box over a friends house?  I can't get a feel for a game from someone else?  I can post my insights about a game, company, or its merits and flaws, even if I choose not to personally purchase it, on other sites.  Why not here? 

Or are you just trollin'?

[Thylbanus]

From Tuchanka with Love wrote...

Your opinion is irrelevant and no one cares. I'm just being honest. Everyone is talking about this and you're not adding anything new to the argument; you don't want to play a good game (subjectively)? That's your choice. Let things keep youfrom having fun and continue taking things like video games too seriously. You'll never be happy.

If no one cares, then why is there almost 800 pages of posts on the subject in the forum.  That's just from what Bioware started.  There are numerous other independant posts that are out there.  And it seems that Bioware totally missed the point, for some reason they believe we hate the ending because it's "sad" or "broken".  I feel it's a perfectly viable ending, other than the Star Child.  IF it were one of many.  My appeal is to the company at large, not just what happened in the game.  I hated "Law Abiding Citizen" for the same reason, the end is not fitting to the whole plot.  Loved the movie, all the but the last ten minutes.  After all the meticulous and ingenious planning, he plants a suitcase bomb?!  And doesn't have a way to tell if someone entered his hideout?  They set up this man to be such a genius and he doesn't even have a monitoring system that are availible to most homes?  Suspension of disbelief ruined. 

[Mr Zoat2]

You can post in the spoiler free section. I'm not really sure why. I am in the same position as you.

[Davillo]

People who think the ending in ME3 was bad are too stupid to understand it.

Modifié par Davillo, 05 mai 2012 - 04:13 .

[tbb033]

TS2Aggie wrote...

Suck it up and deal with it.

ETA: Seriously, deal with it. That is one way of separating the people who actually bought and played the game from people who just played it. You want to take a moral stance? Great. Don't whine about the consequences of your choices.

Yeah, I'm really gonna link my games to my account here, so if I say something they don't like they can shut off my games the way EA did with that other guy. Sure, they say it was a mistake, they say it won't happen again, but they also said you wouldn't need to play multiplayer to get all the singleplayer content, and that was a big fat juicy one.

Modifié par tbb033, 05 mai 2012 - 10:13 .

[Aggie Punbot]

I say things that EA doesn't like all the time. All. The. Time. They have yet to "shut off my game." You're being paranoid.

Modifié par TS2Aggie, 06 mai 2012 - 03:34 .

[0x30A88]

Davillo wrote...

People who think the ending in ME3 was bad are too stupid to understand it.

I fully understand what happens -- and I bet OP does too --, yet some are curious to see what the hell happens next and some reasons for things happening during the ending scene. Don't call anyone stupid because they don't like the ending -- yet.

If you're such a smartass, then tell me with spoiler markers what the hell happened to a certain ship.

Modifié par Gisle Aune, 06 mai 2012 - 08:53 .