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[Unschuld]

Brhino wrote...

Honestly nothing would make me happier than if they announced a deadline slip. It would mean that they are letting the work dictate the deadline rather than the other way around, which is clearly one of the main reasons why the ending is such crap as is.

Wouldn't be a guarantee that they'll put out something quality, but it would at least show that they're trying.

Actually, the fact that they said "summer" gave me a bit of hope in itself. That's ambiguous enough for me to conclude that they're not going to rush it. I'd gladly wait another 6 months for a quality product, as I would have been glad to wait an additional year after March 6th for ME3 to come out.

[tjmax]

Its kinda like asking mom and dad..
are we there yet? are we there yet? are we there yet?

its not just a bunch of guys making content in their office to toss out on the internet for people to use. its a team of highly skilled people working to try to do something thats not going to blow up in their face when they release it. If it takes even longer to do I would not be shocked,

[DangerousPuddy]

I would rather they take the time and give us as much content, and plot-hole-less clarity. Polish is something this game lacked from the start.

[SovereignWillReturn]

Bioware used up their reservoir of Space Magic already, and now must work like good, honest, intelligent story-writers.

[bgalin10]

bluewolv1970 wrote...

 if, according to Mike Gamble there is a huge team working on it, and as has been widely reported, there is no gameplay and only cutscenes and cinematics, with it being unlikely to be more than 15 minutes of content...Kasumi: Stolen Memory came out in about the same timeframe, was a 1 - 1 1/2 hour dlc with cutscenes, new locations AND gameplay, added a new pemanent character,  AND  had a MUCH SMALLER  team working on it...IS Bioware really that unsure or disorganized about what to even do with EC???  

You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. You can't write a new ending, dialog, cinematics, in addition to doing recordings and rendering the CGI, all overnight. It takes months at the bare minimum. You've formed a strong opinion on a subject in which you don't know what you're talking about.

[noobcannon]

bluewolv1970 wrote...

 if, according to Mike Gamble there is a huge team working on it, and as has been widely reported, there is no gameplay and only cutscenes and cinematics, with it being unlikely to be more than 15 minutes of content...Kasumi: Stolen Memory came out in about the same timeframe, was a 1 - 1 1/2 hour dlc with cutscenes, new locations AND gameplay, added a new pemanent character,  AND  had a MUCH SMALLER  team working on it...IS Bioware really that unsure or disorganized about what to even do with EC???  

15 minutes you say?

[Murvel88]

I would be perfectly happy with waiting until this winter or longer if it meant giving them time to save mass effect. A "this summer" release feels alarmingly early to me, the game needs more polish even if you don't count the lousy ending. I'm sceptical they'll pull this off but I'll give them this one chance to redeem themselves.

[Siansonea]

SovereignWillReturn wrote...

Bioware used up their reservoir of Space Magic already, and now must work like good, honest, intelligent story-writers.

Sure they must. But will they? Can they?

[EagleScoutDJB]

Because the realize that if they don't do it right they are risking future sales. They're never going to please everyone but they need to make the EC good to win back some of the trust they've lost.

[tMc Tallgeese]

Perhaps the impatient horde will do BioWare a favor and pull their bottom lips over their heads and swallow. I think if you took all the energy you use to complain it would power the servers at BioWare for a month.

Please be patient and let them work. It's a couple months from launch, not a decade later. Okay, I'll shut up now so I can be set afire by the mob.

[Omega Torsk]

NO! I want them to take their time with this!

This gives us the greatest chance of them doing it right. Rushing and rash decision-making gave us the current endings.

As long as it's released eventually, what does it matter? Bioware said it's due for release sometime this summer. That's within the scope of three, maybe four months. I have a theory that they're going to announce it at E3 and we'll most likely see it come late June, early July.

Right now, my biggest fear is them cancelling it prematurely.

[tilusN7]

As far as i'm concerned the longer the better. As hard as it is to wait to see what happens, I'd rather a good quality piece of work that actually satisfies me than another rush job.

[bluewolv1970]

Laurencio wrote...

bluewolv1970 wrote...

 if, according to Mike Gamble there is a huge team working on it, and as has been widely reported, there is no gameplay and only cutscenes and cinematics, with it being unlikely to be more than 15 minutes of content...Kasumi: Stolen Memory came out in about the same timeframe, was a 1 - 1 1/2 hour dlc with cutscenes, new locations AND gameplay, added a new pemanent character,  AND  had a MUCH SMALLER  team working on it...IS Bioware really that unsure or disorganized about what to even do with EC???  

Widely reported by anyone but Bioware. In fact when presented with the claim that EC wouldn't have anything other than cinematics and cutscenes Mr Gamble responded with "Who told you that?", when faced with the "widely reported" claim his response was (3 weeks ago) "Well they know more than me then".

Simple fact is we have no idea what is and is not in EC, and no ammount of "widely reported" nonsense articles changes that. At the point this forum kept saying "widely reported" the people behind the project itself were still hashing out what to put into it. This was made clear by their own admission and reported by Weekes who was attending writers meetings around that time, which he hinted to had something to do with the EC.

Seriously, the amount of missinformation surrounding EC is tremendous.

and who's fault would it be???  

[harrier25699]

@OP

Don't forget that it has to be rolled out simultaneously across all platforms, meaning Microsoft and Sony approvals which on their own cost time and money.

[bluewolv1970]

tilusN7 wrote...

As far as i'm concerned the longer the better. As hard as it is to wait to see what happens, I'd rather a good quality piece of work that actually satisfies me than another rush job.

I agree if longer=better, my original poiint is I am not clear how longer does equal better in this case to be honest, sometimes longer is just longer...perhaps if Bioware explained what they were doing gave a rough outline of what the EC entails it would be clear...I mean if they said "we are completely reworking Priority Earth" - I would not mind if it took till Christamas...

Modifié par bluewolv1970, 03 mai 2012 - 06:17 .

[Reorte]

bluewolv1970 wrote...

I agree if longer=better, my original poiint is I am not clear how longer does equal better in this case to be honest, sometimes longer is just longer...perhaps if Bioware explained what they were doing gave a rough outline of what the EC entails it would be clear...I mean if they said "we are completely reworking Priority Earth" - I would not mind if it took till Christamas...

It suggests that they are taking care and not just rushing it by writing a few text epilogues based on the first idea that comes to mind. It's the one thing that gives me some hope, that they are at least giving themselves enough time to get it right.

[UrgentArchengel]

It's probably a hell of a lot bigger then we imagine. Like beyond just the ending. This could be an Extended Cut of the whole game. That or they are having drunken sexy parties. Which is equally awesome.

[richard_rider]

I'll wait, 6 months, hell, I'll wait a year, if they fix it, and they do it right.

[havoc373]

The reason its taking longer than Stolen Memories is quite simple. Stolen memories was planned before launch and was already in development when mass effect 2 launched.
The Extended cut wasent a sure thing till near the end of march/early april. That means the planning and resource allocation stage began early april. So far they have had 1 month to plan the whole thing and write it. I think they are getting to the point where they are starting to implement small stuff.

[Taboo]

havoc373 wrote...

The reason its taking longer than Stolen Memories is quite simple. Stolen memories was planned before launch and was already in development when mass effect 2 launched.
The Extended cut wasent a sure thing till near the end of march/early april. That means the planning and resource allocation stage began early april. So far they have had 1 month to plan the whole thing and write it. I think they are getting to the point where they are starting to implement small stuff.

Listen to this man/woman.

They understand.

[Oldbones2]

Optimystic_X wrote...

They haven't even finished the voice work yet. Tricia Helfer is starting new lines for EDI on Monday for instance.

You don't know that her VO work is for the EC DLC.


My thoughts OP, are that they are only devoting a very small amount of resources and personal to this project, while they concentrate on Omega and other DLC.

[Reorte]

Oldbones2 wrote...
You don't know that her VO work is for the EC DLC.

My thoughts OP, are that they are only devoting a very small amount of resources and personal to this project, while they concentrate on Omega and other DLC.

I doubt that. Any DLC at all must be in doubt until we know how well the EC has gone down. That's why it's coming before anything else (other than the MP DLC which was probably almost ready anyway). The fact that the EC is happening at all and will be free strongly suggests that it's being viewed as essential to make further paying DLC viable.

[httinks2006]

This is only if you believe it hadn't already been made to some extent for paid dlc orginally and that they are not waitng for the storm to subside before they release it

[Garlador]

I like to believe they realized just how much work it's going to take to fix that stupid ending. They thought originally "oh, just some minor clarification is all they need" and then the outcry and the plotholes stacked up higher and higher and then they went "oh crap, this ending is really awful. We have no idea how to fix this. This is going to take a LOT of work. Call everyone back; we have an emergency on our hands. How did this mess happen?"

At least, I'd like to THINK so.