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Then be sure to back it up... don't let that evil syntheic bastard, alias LEGION, upload the Reaper code to give all his people intelligence. He's forcing that choice on all his people, against their will!!! Who gave him the right to decide what's best for everyone? Give him what he deserves: a knife in the back, and then shoot him like the mad dog that he is.

*EDIT*

Also, your morality commands you to go back and replay ME1 and KILL URDNOT WREX! if you haven't already. Why, you ask? Because, did you not see his tyranny on Tuchanka in Mass Effect 2?? Look at what he's doing! He's forcing his people to do what HE wants, and what HE thinks is right for them! Like Fortack, who's genius is wasted on frivilous things. Like.. agricultural and medicinal improvements! And remember that grouchy mechanic. He speaks glowingly of Wreav, that he's a leader who respects tradition.

And worse yet, Wrex wants to unite the clans O.O ... he wants to take away the thing that makes them unique! And for what? His vision of them as a unified race. Gee, that sounds A LOT like Hitler **** Germany!!! Whoah, okay, I don't think I even need to go on at this point. If there's one thing that the BSN understands, it's the evil that is The Fuhrer. It is Godwin's LAW afterall, not Godwin's hypothesis.

So, support self-determinism! Long live URDNOT WREAV!!!!


**EDIT #2**

Once you're done killing Wrex in ME1, you're done. That's it. End of series. You're not going to play ME2. You know why? Because look at the way it began! The Illusive Man, that sick bastard defied nature and brought your corpse back from the dead =O

Worse yet, he used cybernetics to do it. I repeat, he forced synthetics into you without your consent. And if you play ME2, you accept it. Unless of course you're a dirty renegade, remember that line where Shepard responds to TIM asking him/her "how are you feeling?" The dialogue wheel gives you the option to say [Good] on the bottom right (renegade) and Shepard goes on to say "I noticed a few upgrades." UPGRADES? EX-SQUEEZE ME??? You're trying to tell me that forcing me to become partly synthetic is good?! Proposterous! Only a renegade monster would have this line of thinking, but the rest of us white-knights know better.

Why all this monstrosity? TIM was thinking it would be best for humanity, and that you could help him save them from the Collectors. So as usual, we see another tyrant doing what HE thinks is best for everyone, smh.

Burn your copy of ME2, don't let TIM get his way!



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Modifié par HYR 2.0, 04 mai 2012 - 08:18 .


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FatalX7.0

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All of his people? No.

And you could destroy them instead.

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Modifié par The Angry One, 03 mai 2012 - 09:15 .


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Legion had the choice of giving his people individuality or letting them all die...

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Legion is networked into all other geth. They're a hive mind. When he made that decision, it was a decision decided by ALL geth. He didn't force it on anyone. They chose it together.

Shepard, with his organic brain and non-hive mind, has no such connection and ability to decide with everyone.

I still wanted to have words with Legion about using Reaper code in the first place but it has nothing to do with allegedly "forcing" it on his people.

Modifié par EsterCloat, 03 mai 2012 - 09:17 .


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An English Gamer wrote...

Legion had the choice of giving his people individuality or letting them all die...

No he didn't; he finishes uploading the code after the geth are already safe.

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EsterCloat wrote...

Legion is networked into all other geth. They're a hive mind. When he made that decision, it was a decision decided by ALL geth. He didn't force it on anyone. They chose it together.

Shepard, with his organic brain and non-hive mind, has no such connection and ability to decide with everyone.


Good point, at the very least he would've had consensus with the Primes from the previous mission, which are each a networked collection of Geth.

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Fail thread is fail.

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The Angry One wrote...

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"Treating every species like one's own is racist. Even benign anthropomorphism".

Needs to be on a shirt.

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EsterCloat wrote...

Legion is networked into all other geth. They're a hive mind. When he made that decision, it was a decision decided by ALL geth. He didn't force it on anyone. They chose it together.

Shepard, with his organic brain and non-hive mind, has no such connection and ability to decide with everyone.

I still wanted to have words with Legion about using Reaper code in the first place but it has nothing to do with allegedly "forcing" it on his people.


Legion consists of a thousand+ Geth programs.

There are the Geth and there are the Heretics.

Modifié par FatalX7.0, 03 mai 2012 - 09:21 .


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EsterCloat wrote...

Legion is networked into all other geth. They're a hive mind. When he made that decision, it was a decision decided by ALL geth. He didn't force it on anyone. They chose it together.

Shepard, with his organic brain and non-hive mind, has no such connection and ability to decide with everyone.

I still wanted to have words with Legion about using Reaper code in the first place but it has nothing to do with allegedly "forcing" it on his people.


Nope! He's only networked to around 1k programs, a very small total population of the geth.

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Synthesis forces everyone to be the same. Uploading the reaper code gives the geth individuality aka the opposite of synthesis.

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ArchDuck wrote...

Fail post is fail.


Fixed it for you! :wizard:

Oh, there I go again. Correct a mistake without the individual's consent.

WHAT HAVE I DONE???

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FJVP wrote...

Synthesis forces everyone to be the same. Uploading the reaper code gives the geth individuality aka the opposite of synthesis.


The thread is about rewriting the heretics in ME 2.

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HYR 2.0 wrote...

EsterCloat wrote...

Legion is networked into all other geth. They're a hive mind. When he made that decision, it was a decision decided by ALL geth. He didn't force it on anyone. They chose it together.

Shepard, with his organic brain and non-hive mind, has no such connection and ability to decide with everyone.

I still wanted to have words with Legion about using Reaper code in the first place but it has nothing to do with allegedly "forcing" it on his people.


Nope! He's only networked to around 1k programs, a very small total population of the geth.


If he didn't upload the code the Quarians would wipe the Geth out. And Shepard is one person yet he changes EVERY BEING in the galaxy.

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You know, if there was an option to tell Legion to stop uploading the code after you've already called off the quarian fleet, I'm sure many people would have taken it.

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FJVP wrote...

Synthesis forces everyone to be the same. Uploading the reaper code gives the geth individuality aka the opposite of synthesis.


LOL! Did Joker look the same as EDI and/or random NPC walking out of the Normandy to you?

Nice try. No wait, actually, very poor try.

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HYR 2.0 wrote...

EsterCloat wrote...

Legion is networked into all other geth. They're a hive mind. When he made that decision, it was a decision decided by ALL geth. He didn't force it on anyone. They chose it together.

Shepard, with his organic brain and non-hive mind, has no such connection and ability to decide with everyone.

I still wanted to have words with Legion about using Reaper code in the first place but it has nothing to do with allegedly "forcing" it on his people.


Nope! He's only networked to around 1k programs, a very small total population of the geth.

Legion can upload the Reaper code to all other geth which means he has a connection to all other geth which means he is networked to all other geth. I doubt it's a one way connection that he can only upload to so he could easily ask all other geth, "Do we use Reaper code to not die?" with no reason not to.

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I disliked the fact that the Geth 'had' to take the upgrades and embrace individuality to survive. The Galaxy lost a very unique and interesting racial outlook when that pinocchio knockoff was stamped out.

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HYR 2.0 wrote...

EsterCloat wrote...

Legion is networked into all other geth. They're a hive mind. When he made that decision, it was a decision decided by ALL geth. He didn't force it on anyone. They chose it together.

Shepard, with his organic brain and non-hive mind, has no such connection and ability to decide with everyone.

I still wanted to have words with Legion about using Reaper code in the first place but it has nothing to do with allegedly "forcing" it on his people.


Nope! He's only networked to around 1k programs, a very small total population of the geth.


Also, the Primes. Also, he may have been communicating with the other Geth. The fact that he can distribute his personality among them strongly hints that. They may have all reached consensus.

And yeah, it was still one species. Legion's species.
Shepard decides the fate of every being in the galaxy.

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HYR 2.0 wrote...

FJVP wrote...

Synthesis forces everyone to be the same. Uploading the reaper code gives the geth individuality aka the opposite of synthesis.


LOL! Did Joker look the same as EDI and/or random NPC walking out of the Normandy to you?

Nice try. No wait, actually, very poor try.


<facepalm>

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 Yep I killed the heretics. On top of the morality of rewriting, you had the possibility of reaper influence on the clean geth.

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HYR 2.0 wrote...

FJVP wrote...

Synthesis forces everyone to be the same. Uploading the reaper code gives the geth individuality aka the opposite of synthesis.


LOL! Did Joker look the same as EDI and/or random NPC walking out of the Normandy to you?

Nice try. No wait, actually, very poor try.


Yeah, he was green and glowy like everything and everyone else.

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Legion could interact instantly with a component of the Geth network, at the very least it could be a shared decision. Plus legion is deciding the fate of his own people without impacting on the diversity of the other species.

Commander Shepard is effectively deciding the future of every individual organic/synthetic species in the galaxy.

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I happen to agree. But synthetics not being like organics doesn't mean that this is necessarily different. You might believe that killing the geth is no big deal because they are machines, but if you try to side with the quarians on that mission, Legion will fight you for the right to survive. If he saw himself as just a machine, what would it matter?