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#51
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cly57 wrote...

If people don't like that map, why don't they play another one? I will never understand the problem people have with FBWGG. In just about every map there is typically one or two places that the entire team could just bunker down and finish the whole match.

Boring? Yes. Doable? Absolutely.

If people want to utilize part of a game that they paid for a certain way, let them. If people don't want to play with them - fine. Everyone has a choice - as it should be.


try to find a Gold mtch.

go ahead, try it.

You will get nothing but FBWGG lobbies, and if you try to make one yourself, the lobby will never fill because everyone that ends up joining is searching for a FBWGG lobby.

That's why people are complaining about it.

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QQ more

regularly fill my games with friends on random Golds...

btw when we get White/Geth we fail and restart.. lol

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Nocturnalfox wrote...

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Nocturnalfox wrote...

It is going to happen, but how long until it does.
Personally I would like "map rotations" where certain maps earn more EXP/credits on a weekly basis and other maps earn less.

I would also prefer to see a new (OP) unit in the Geth arsenal and a little more intelligence overall (ie not walking up to cover just to get yanked over).


What makes you think it's "going to happen"?


Because EA/BW wont keep this microtransactions which allows for free stuff if it is all so easily obtained.
So I am suggesting making it harder- because I actually care about the game and MP longetivity.


People can obtain credits on a regular gold game in the same amount of time, if not quicker than FBWGG. And there's maps where it can be done faster and more efficiently. So are they going to nerf all the maps because it's easy?

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Brettic wrote...

cly57 wrote...

If people don't like that map, why don't they play another one? I will never understand the problem people have with FBWGG. In just about every map there is typically one or two places that the entire team could just bunker down and finish the whole match.

Boring? Yes. Doable? Absolutely.

If people want to utilize part of a game that they paid for a certain way, let them. If people don't want to play with them - fine. Everyone has a choice - as it should be.


try to find a Gold mtch.

go ahead, try it.

You will get nothing but FBWGG lobbies, and if you try to make one yourself, the lobby will never fill because everyone that ends up joining is searching for a FBWGG lobby.

That's why people are complaining about it.


That's a lie. 
I played all random gold games yesterday and out of the 7-8 I played, ONE of them was a FBWGG match. And if that's a problem, host your own game. 

Quit crying when there's a few easy solutions right in front of you.

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Walk2k wrote...

QQ more

regularly fill my games with friends on random Golds...

btw when we get White/Geth we fail and restart.. lol

Actually it seems to be the rest of the thread QQ

I merely suggested one or two slight changes and they are crying about it. :lol:

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As has been already stated, chances are they won't do anything about it. It is trivial really to 'fix' this 'problem', if they really wanted to. Just introduce a small spawn with a variable number of hunters and pyros, depending on wave, behind the room, regardless of player presense and/or equip the Geth with grenades. The thing is, even if they do that, players would simply find another map and spot to bunker (Hydra's control room comes to mind).

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Brettic wrote...

cly57 wrote...

If people don't like that map, why don't they play another one? I will never understand the problem people have with FBWGG. In just about every map there is typically one or two places that the entire team could just bunker down and finish the whole match.

Boring? Yes. Doable? Absolutely.

If people want to utilize part of a game that they paid for a certain way, let them. If people don't want to play with them - fine. Everyone has a choice - as it should be.


try to find a Gold mtch.

go ahead, try it.

You will get nothing but FBWGG lobbies, and if you try to make one yourself, the lobby will never fill because everyone that ends up joining is searching for a FBWGG lobby.

That's why people are complaining about it.


random/random rooms sometimes take a bit longer to fill up, but the players that join tend to be worth the wait.   Join a FBW/G and you usually get bronze level players.   Players who don't farm would know that.

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Fjortis wrote...

Brettic wrote...

cly57 wrote...

If people don't like that map, why don't they play another one? I will never understand the problem people have with FBWGG. In just about every map there is typically one or two places that the entire team could just bunker down and finish the whole match.

Boring? Yes. Doable? Absolutely.

If people want to utilize part of a game that they paid for a certain way, let them. If people don't want to play with them - fine. Everyone has a choice - as it should be.


try to find a Gold mtch.

go ahead, try it.

You will get nothing but FBWGG lobbies, and if you try to make one yourself, the lobby will never fill because everyone that ends up joining is searching for a FBWGG lobby.

That's why people are complaining about it.


That's a lie. 
I played all random gold games yesterday and out of the 7-8 I played, ONE of them was a FBWGG match. And if that's a problem, host your own game. 

Quit crying when there's a few easy solutions right in front of you.


I see you are on the PS3.

Maybe it's different over there.

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i dont see this happening its not a problem for bioware. its an issue for the player looking for a match who either doesnt want to or,*most unlikely* cant host..trying to fix this would require time from biowares employees which in turn means they have to be paid for that time..unlikely to happen

Modifié par Elindile, 04 mai 2012 - 01:25 .


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Brettic wrote...

Fjortis wrote...

Brettic wrote...

cly57 wrote...

If people don't like that map, why don't they play another one? I will never understand the problem people have with FBWGG. In just about every map there is typically one or two places that the entire team could just bunker down and finish the whole match.

Boring? Yes. Doable? Absolutely.

If people want to utilize part of a game that they paid for a certain way, let them. If people don't want to play with them - fine. Everyone has a choice - as it should be.


try to find a Gold mtch.

go ahead, try it.

You will get nothing but FBWGG lobbies, and if you try to make one yourself, the lobby will never fill because everyone that ends up joining is searching for a FBWGG lobby.

That's why people are complaining about it.


That's a lie. 
I played all random gold games yesterday and out of the 7-8 I played, ONE of them was a FBWGG match. And if that's a problem, host your own game. 

Quit crying when there's a few easy solutions right in front of you.


I see you are on the PS3.

Maybe it's different over there.


Perhaps. 
The FBWGG players are still there, definitely. But I myself never have really had a problem finding people who don't want to farm and actually want to play. 

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RANDOMvGRENADE wrote...

Brettic wrote...

cly57 wrote...

If people don't like that map, why don't they play another one? I will never understand the problem people have with FBWGG. In just about every map there is typically one or two places that the entire team could just bunker down and finish the whole match.

Boring? Yes. Doable? Absolutely.

If people want to utilize part of a game that they paid for a certain way, let them. If people don't want to play with them - fine. Everyone has a choice - as it should be.


try to find a Gold mtch.

go ahead, try it.

You will get nothing but FBWGG lobbies, and if you try to make one yourself, the lobby will never fill because everyone that ends up joining is searching for a FBWGG lobby.

That's why people are complaining about it.


random/random rooms sometimes take a bit longer to fill up, but the players that join tend to be worth the wait.   Join a FBW/G and you usually get bronze level players.   Players who don't farm would know that.


Hasn't been my experience, hell when I could play the other day, I made one cause I got sick of only findign FBWGG lobbies over and over, waited for it to fill, when it finally did i noticed two AA and a HI, so I went AJ to set up detonations for the adepts.

The whole match they would not detonate my reaves, they spent their whole time stasising stuff and headshotting them with their carnifex/phalanx and the HI wouldn't disable the devices.

We only made it to wave 8.

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I would love it to be nerfed in some way. Give geths grenades, make them immune to being grabbed, make them ignore decoy, or make geth primes put their turrets behind cover with the campers.

People farming doesnt affect me in any way, it doesnt upset me, and it doesnt ruin my gaming experience.

I just want them to nerf it so it pisses off the farmers..............thats all.

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try to find a Gold mtch.

go ahead, try it.

You will get nothing but FBWGG lobbies, and if you try to make one yourself, the lobby will never fill because everyone that ends up joining is searching for a FBWGG lobby.


Must be AMERICANZ who are doing that, since when I play during Aussie primetime all I find are Random/Random/Gold, or anything but FBW:Geth. I actually literally found a FBW:Geth gold game, which filled, and then the host quit while we all readied up. @_@

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I commend anyone that can sit in that basement all day and play against only Geth. Incredibly boring. That being said though... It doesn't really need to be "nerfed" since it's playing the actual game. Not like it's an exploit to camp one side of the map. You can use that same strategy on pretty much every map. I don't see the appeal of it. Not like you average 15 minute runs on it or anything.

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It might just be a PS3 issue, but the majority of the time when you enter "R/R/G" you will get "FBW/G/G"
I have been in a cerberus playlist now for about 4 matches because I searched R/C/G
I tried to search reaper matches and it kept putting me in silver and FBWGG

I would like to see a little diversity and with the operations being bi monthly (Weekends) there is a whole lot of days to fit stuff into.

And I think a lot of people would QQ less if they got more credits by branching out and playing other less played maps and enemies, then again they might QQ more because they would earn less fighting a particular faction on a particular map all the time.


See, it is a double edged sword.

So the suggestion is:
The 2 least played maps= 15% credit increase
The 2 most played maps= 20% credit decrease
Least played faction= 15% credit increase
Most played faction= 20% credit decrease


Basically a tax for taking the easy route and a bonus for taking the hard route. And nothing gained or lost for the middle ground.

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All they need to do is put a spawn point near/on the catwalks.

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What? Playing with clueless randoms from bronze is not nerf enough? What's wrong with you?

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Fixing the Geth AI is the only way around it. Fixing the map will just lead to a new map being the spot to farm.

Or at least give them more incentive to play elsewhere.

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If Bioware would want it to stop all they would have to do is remove the counters downstairs.

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Radwar wrote...

If Bioware would want it to stop all they would have to do is remove the counters downstairs.


 A big empty room wouldn't make sense though, would it?

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Nocturnalfox wrote...

It might just be a PS3 issue, but the majority of the time when you enter "R/R/G" you will get "FBW/G/G"
I have been in a cerberus playlist now for about 4 matches because I searched R/C/G
I tried to search reaper matches and it kept putting me in silver and FBWGG

I would like to see a little diversity and with the operations being bi monthly (Weekends) there is a whole lot of days to fit stuff into.

And I think a lot of people would QQ less if they got more credits by branching out and playing other less played maps and enemies, then again they might QQ more because they would earn less fighting a particular faction on a particular map all the time.


See, it is a double edged sword.

So the suggestion is:
The 2 least played maps= 15% credit increase
The 2 most played maps= 20% credit decrease
Least played faction= 15% credit increase
Most played faction= 20% credit decrease


Basically a tax for taking the easy route and a bonus for taking the hard route. And nothing gained or lost for the middle ground.

I believe it is more a problem for ps3 users with the lower player base, not the rest of us. Since we have enough players that don't farm, i think you're just unlucky. (in having a ps3, since it seems there aren't as many people on it as the other platforms)

Seriously if you don't like it, stop playing publics, it's so simple, make a "non-farming gold ps3 players wanted" thread, it will get people interested and you'll get a whole bunch of people who want to join you not playing fbw.

I made a thread about finding people who were tired of bad teams on gold and silver, it's got over 200 people from all platforms interested and now forming their own little gaming community.

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Brettic wrote...

RANDOMvGRENADE wrote...

Brettic wrote...

cly57 wrote...

If people don't like that map, why don't they play another one? I will never understand the problem people have with FBWGG. In just about every map there is typically one or two places that the entire team could just bunker down and finish the whole match.

Boring? Yes. Doable? Absolutely.

If people want to utilize part of a game that they paid for a certain way, let them. If people don't want to play with them - fine. Everyone has a choice - as it should be.


try to find a Gold mtch.

go ahead, try it.

You will get nothing but FBWGG lobbies, and if you try to make one yourself, the lobby will never fill because everyone that ends up joining is searching for a FBWGG lobby.

That's why people are complaining about it.


random/random rooms sometimes take a bit longer to fill up, but the players that join tend to be worth the wait.   Join a FBW/G and you usually get bronze level players.   Players who don't farm would know that.


Hasn't been my experience, hell when I could play the other day, I made one cause I got sick of only findign FBWGG lobbies over and over, waited for it to fill, when it finally did i noticed two AA and a HI, so I went AJ to set up detonations for the adepts.

The whole match they would not detonate my reaves, they spent their whole time stasising stuff and headshotting them with their carnifex/phalanx and the HI wouldn't disable the devices.

We only made it to wave 8.


Two solutions for you.  

1. HOST GAMES.  Set the parameters yourself and invite friends, or screen the public pool for the team you want.  

2.  Get good enough at the game that it doesn't matter what map/enemy you play.   A lot of times all it takes is for someone that really knows their sh*t to take control of a random/random lobby and work with your team to GET BETTER.   If you think that Gold can be beat by any four guys from the player pool you are mistaken.  More time spent in lobbies building a strong team=less mission failures.  And that translates into more players better at gold and an all around better gaming environment.

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Nocturnalfox wrote...

Radwar wrote...

If Bioware would want it to stop all they would have to do is remove the counters downstairs.


 A big empty room wouldn't make sense though, would it?


The endings didn't make sense, I don't see how removing counters could be worst.

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Radwar wrote...

Nocturnalfox wrote...

Radwar wrote...

If Bioware would want it to stop all they would have to do is remove the counters downstairs.


 A big empty room wouldn't make sense though, would it?


The endings didn't make sense, I don't see how removing counters could be worst.

Kudos :lol:

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Using image memes to insult other posters is treated exactly the same as insulting them in a post.

Let's stay civil.