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[Nocturnalfox]

 See's BW tag in topic, thinks it is going to be BW input. Disappointed.

[SinerAthin]

People play the game the way they want to.

Let's stop being envious and stop bashing them

Modifié par SinerAthin, 04 mai 2012 - 02:54 .

[Brettic]

RANDOMvGRENADE wrote...

Brettic wrote...

RANDOMvGRENADE wrote...

Brettic wrote...

cly57 wrote...

If people don't like that map, why don't they play another one? I will never understand the problem people have with FBWGG. In just about every map there is typically one or two places that the entire team could just bunker down and finish the whole match.

Boring? Yes. Doable? Absolutely.

If people want to utilize part of a game that they paid for a certain way, let them. If people don't want to play with them - fine. Everyone has a choice - as it should be.

try to find a Gold mtch.

go ahead, try it.

You will get nothing but FBWGG lobbies, and if you try to make one yourself, the lobby will never fill because everyone that ends up joining is searching for a FBWGG lobby.

That's why people are complaining about it.

random/random rooms sometimes take a bit longer to fill up, but the players that join tend to be worth the wait.   Join a FBW/G and you usually get bronze level players.   Players who don't farm would know that.

Hasn't been my experience, hell when I could play the other day, I made one cause I got sick of only findign FBWGG lobbies over and over, waited for it to fill, when it finally did i noticed two AA and a HI, so I went AJ to set up detonations for the adepts.

The whole match they would not detonate my reaves, they spent their whole time stasising stuff and headshotting them with their carnifex/phalanx and the HI wouldn't disable the devices.

We only made it to wave 8.

Two solutions for you.  

1. HOST GAMES.  Set the parameters yourself and invite friends, or screen the public pool for the team you want.  

2.  Get good enough at the game that it doesn't matter what map/enemy you play.   A lot of times all it takes is for someone that really knows their sh*t to take control of a random/random lobby and work with your team to GET BETTER.   If you think that Gold can be beat by any four guys from the player pool you are mistaken.  More time spent in lobbies building a strong team=less mission failures.  And that translates into more players better at gold and an all around better gaming environment.

I picked a class I don't normally ever play and am not familiar with because setting up biotic explosions for my asari adept teammates would have been the best thing to do to compliment the team, if i knew beforehand they were going to be derps and not detonate my reaves, i would have played an infiltrator or something I'm good at and just carried the match.

Instead I made the mistake of expecting teamwork in a gold match.

and I only have 1 friend and he doesn't hardly ever play. I havent had much opportunity to meet people in game because my mic wont work in the game, and i never added a bunch of people from the forums or anything. maybe I should do that, i'm thinking about it still.


but either way this isn't about me, i was just pointing out why people get upset about the FBWGG farming that everyones doing.

The issues I pointed out were it filling the gold queue with FBWGG matches, making it hard to find one that's not FBWGG, making it take longer to fill a game that is not FBWGG and it bringing bronzers in thinking they can hack it in gold because they played a few FBWGG runs and won.

Modifié par Brettic, 04 mai 2012 - 03:06 .

[Rib0flavin]

When you make A "gold " difficulty and have a high reward for people completing it. You want it to be challenging. When a tactic turns the challenge into an easily farm situation, As a developer you want to add that challenge to bring back that "risk vs reward" back.

If you don't you get people who mindlessly grind for easy credits, max out their items faster and quit. Claiming it was " Too easy"

[zthemutt]

They're not going to change anything about FBWGG or spawn mechanics or AI any sooner than changing the drop rate of Ultra-Rares or the frequency of character cards after appearance has been maxed*. Stop making threads just because you can't find a non FBWGG game.

Modifié par zthemutt, 04 mai 2012 - 03:11 .

[capn233]

Nerf the player, not the game.

[Nocturnalfox]

Changing title, updating OP- nerf was probably wrong word.

[corvette3]

It's nothing more than an exploit, they exist in many games and are quite often abused for easy lives/points/money/ammo etc.
Its not exactly easy to patch without giving the Geth themselves abilities that would probably make them downright overpowered.

[robertm2]

why do people care? if you dont want to do it then dont. they arent going to nerf it so just let it go. i get tired of doing fbwgg so i dont do it. get over it. the only thing that is going to get people to switch it up is if they start adding credit bonuses for certain maps each week. nerfing it will just cause people to find something else to farm and then people will complain about that. eventually everything will get nerfed if people like the op have their way.

[Nocturnalfox]

corvette3 wrote...

It's nothing more than an exploit, they exist in many games and are quite often abused for easy lives/points/money/ammo etc.
Its not exactly easy to patch without giving the Geth themselves abilities that would probably make them downright overpowered.

That is what it is though. An exploit.

Why that map?
Why Geth?

Because the AI is retarded and its easiest.

I suggest a few tweaks to bring it in line and "QQ you can't do that, we wont be able to be  farm credits as easily and quickly"
Maybe it is my taste in games (such as JRPGs), I quite enjoy playing it the proper way and getting those credits as they come even if it becomes a slow grind.

I understand why BW does not release patch notes until after the patch is done- most of the community whines to much <_<

[robertm2]

Nocturnalfox wrote...

corvette3 wrote...

It's nothing more than an exploit, they exist in many games and are quite often abused for easy lives/points/money/ammo etc.
Its not exactly easy to patch without giving the Geth themselves abilities that would probably make them downright overpowered.

That is what it is though. An exploit.

Why that map?
Why Geth?

Because the AI is retarded and its easiest.

I suggest a few tweaks to bring it in line and "QQ you can't do that, we wont be able to be  farm credits as easily and quickly"
Maybe it is my taste in games (such as JRPGs), I quite enjoy playing it the proper way and getting those credits as they come even if it becomes a slow grind.

I understand why BW does not release patch notes until after the patch is done- most of the community whines to much <_<

"the community whines too much" no offense  but its confusing when thats coming from the person who started a thread complaining about fbwgg. double standtard or self observation?

[UKillMeLongTime]

It might have been the team but tonight it seemed like a lot more geth were on each wave and they ignored the decoy a lot.

and I play that map every day and this afternoon it was a breeze

maybe it was the team but three adepts and a engineer should have been a breeze

[HolyAvenger]

Thing is, I'd love to FBW/G/G as if it was a proper/non-farming run. It'd be fun. That combination is totally ruined for me now.

That's why it needs a fix.


IMO they should just force spawns in behind the players. That would prevent the camping.

[X Alastar X]

I can see them nerfing credits earned on farming maps if they care enough to take that action (which i dont see happening) i do not however see them offering any credit rewards or incentives to not farm.

[zthemutt]

I'm sorry, but I lose it when people are talking about the "proper" way to play a video game. If all you want is for Bioware to change one map/enemy combination because it's how you want others to play a video game, it's my hope they make White/Geth the only combination available with Gold difficulty. **(Not really, but see how you sound from the other side?)
Also want more free stuff because we deserve it for being such patient little troopers while they were fixing the servers for us.

[X Alastar X]

And i am grateful if they choose to leave it alone largely because well....mp is not fun for me anymore. *raises hands in the air* yoh caught me fox mp bores me and all i want out of it is my blasted unlocks and given the store system and my desire to get them as quickly and painlessly as possible(given the lack of any actial fun it is still incredibly painful) the best and fastest route i see to that end is fbw/g/g

[Psycho Pisces]

Tired of FBWGG? Host your own Gold match somewhere else, simple as that.. Don't punish the community because you're too lazy to host your own matches an wait for people to join.

I host my own golds where I like, When I like.. (FBWGG is actually fun when you get to play different roles and keep it fluid). We've had several successful matches with only one Adept an tons of snipers, a successful match with all vanguards, we've even had a few batarian soldiers.. The idea is to have fun when you play.. Accusing others of whining about this is silly, you have the power to create your own matches, with your own scenarios.. *Personally I like glaciers with 3 vanguards and a geth engineer... that's just me*

[ArkkAngel007]

So...I take it that after they make a fix that you want...you'll complain about FBD/C/G? Then complain about whatever will be the next exploited map? And so on and so forth?

Just set the map you want to play on the search parameters.  Wish it was more like BF3, but baby steps obviously for a company that's a novice in mp.  That or host your own match.  Or go and do your own thing on the FBW matches instead of staying with that group if you want that challenge you so desire.

Modifié par ArkkAngel007, 04 mai 2012 - 03:54 .

[Sacramentum]

I dislike this idea.
Players should be able to play how they want, so decreasing their credits is not something they should do. However, buffing Geth AI isn't a bad idea.

[jaDanger]

Yeah, i think most people outside of overload specialists and white farmers would feel that geth are generally the hardest on gold with the one exception being that geth have no instakill, and these are usually easy to avoid except for the occasional surprise. I can get alot further soloing reapers on gold than i can against geth using pretty much any class.

[Revrant]

Nocturnalfox wrote...
It is going to happen

Nope, quit crying about it.

[Night Wraith]

 When people stop whining about it... so never.

[acfiz]

If you "fix" this camping spot then all that will happen is that people will find the next best combination to farm credits. If you want get people to stop doing this and the credit glitch, then you should fix the thing that is pushing people to look for easy credits. The retarded store system. One small change of removing character cards after all appearances are unlocked would make it a whole lot more bearable.

[Khirna]

This is stupid. I don't understand why people get in such a tizzy over things like this. White/Geth/Gold is just an easy setup to earn some credits. Why should those who play other things get more? It's like complaining about people who did nothing but firefight in Halo Reach.

Yes, it's easy to play White Geth Gold, but only if you play it by letting the enemies come to you. Deviate and you'll run the risk of dying alot because of the choke points on the map.