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[Rasputin17]

Rasputin17 wrote...
I also don't think your being honest with me or yourself.



Presumptuous and ignorant. If you aren't willing to acknowledge another person's point of view as legitimate, then you make no case for them to consider yours.



You think your really smart don't you? You give no context to my words and tell me " if you arent willing to acknowledge another persons point of view they should not consider yours? Again, words that are only wind. What point of view is this exactly? The point of view that denies the reason most people play FBW Geth is because of easy credits? I have not acknowledged your point of view because you have failed to give me one. You deny my points of view without ever even acknowledging them

[Tiamatshade]

No, it's showing how flawed your arguments are, and the fact that you're disputing even that makes you predictable.

Big words usually have a meaning. I'll boil it down for you, so you don't gloss them over. You are being presumptuous in taking liberties in what you observe as fact. You're acting omniscient because you claim to know what people are thinking, aka knowing everything.

People do play FBWGG for credits. That's not at dispute. Even people who disagree with your solution-suggestion agree on this. It's not news that people who still play it despite how boring it gets are farmers. However, I will not join you on the Assumption Boat and say they aren't having fun doing it, because some of them *might* actually enjoy it.

I am calling you a troll not to be insulting, but merely to compare you to someone who constantly ignores what people say just to get a rise out of them. Trolls also ignore facts and spout ignorant blather because they know even reasonable people can't help but disagree with such statements. That's why I had my suspicions of you as a troll. If this is, in fact, not true, then you have my apologies and perhaps a little understanding as to why you look a lot like one right now.

Have you ever considered the possibility that I'm against any suggestion of balancing, because I believe there's no need for balance? My past three posts, and countless other posts you've quoted, have suggested ways to keep this so-called problem from distressing you. We are arguing that it is, in fact, not a problem.

I will agree with you, like a dozen original posters to threads nearly identical to this one, that FBWGG are pervasive in mp. But there are tried and true solutions that you yourself can effect without arguing that anyone who disagrees with you is a farmer.

I would normally suggest you re-read this thread once in its entirety to see some of the alternate suggestions people have made to your idea. But if that's too much work, or it seems like such a ludicrous suggestion would be dancing around the issue, I'll reiterate once more for your convenience:

1) Host your own game. No, this doesn't take forever, and it's a legitimate alternative.
2) Find some friends and group up with them on game settings that aren't FBWGG. I know friending a random stranger from the internet is a scary and foreign undertaking, but it's part of what the internet, and multiplayer in general, encourages.
3) Not to be a smartass or anything, but take it off Gold and go down a notch to Silver. If you're not all about farming credits, and it seems like you might not be (see, no assumptions there), you're just trying to play the game and have fun. Sure, silver's not on the level of challenging gameplay that gold is, but it's an alternative to the stress of doing nothing or (4):
4) Lobby hop.

[Rasputin17]

xtorma wrote...

Rasputin17 wrote...

Tiamatshade wrote...

Rasputin17 wrote...
How often do you play Gold? Are you denying the fact it takes much more time to find a random game that isn't FBW Geth? Even if you don't think its a "problem" its a fact that it takes longer to find games other then FBW Geth. 

Holy cow, Ras, I could have sworn it was maybe last night or the night before you were posting in an extremely similar thread with nearly the same complaint.

And I most likely responded as many people do, (and have been dismissed or ignored), with the suggestion that you find friends and group up with them to run something other than FBWGG.

This in general goes out to puggers: if you keep complaining about needing just -one- of the solutions to this so-called problem, and keep ignoring other respondents, you're going to come off as very short-sighted or very dumb.

People in mmo's avoid the drama of pugging by playing with friends. And we're not talking RL friends; just look up people in those "WTB Gold-Quality Players" threads, and start with "Hi."

I am being very fair in my requests. Your the one who won't give an inch and that makes it so everyone is forced to basically play FBW Geth.

So you are saying everyone is being forced to play FBWGG? I havent played that map in quite some time, did i miss the memo or something?

I am giving my point of view from my extensive time with the game. I can say 8 out of 10 games I try and play are FBW Geht but you will all ignore me. That is why I am making a video.

[Creston918]

Rasputin17 wrote...

SNIP

Just back up a second. Look at how upset you and other posters are getting about even the idea of more balance. It just goes to show how easy FBW Geth is compared to anything else in the game.

The reason it's easy is because most people farm there. Thus, most of the farmers know how it works. Since you obviously don't farm, you therefore don't know this, but you can farm just as easily on other maps, and even against Cerberus. (not the Reapers though. Never them! Brrrr.)

The problem with that is that most farmers don't know how those maps work, because they're all farming FBWGG. So if I set up a different farm map, I either have to accept the fact that I will likely not have anyone who knows how to do it (and thus we'll fail), or I have to talk for five minutes telling people what to do, what to guard, what to look for, etc.

So yes, FBWGG is easiest, I will admit that, but not in such a way that it's "fixable." It's easiest because everyone knows what they're doing. If EAware "fixes" FBWGG, then soon you will be back complaining that everyone is now farming FBDCG. Or FBGGG. The farm crowd will move on to the next thing, and create a ton of matches on the next thing. So how does fixing one farm spot actually do anything FOR YOU? You'll still get the same result you claim to get, which is that it's absolutely impossible to ever get another game going.

So why bother with nerfing it? Or do you want ALL farming nerfed?  Again, because YOU don't like it doesn't mean it's therefore a bad mechanism. You want more Respec cards to drop, and I don't. Well, I'm more important than you, therefore, no more Respec cards should drop.

See how stupidly arrogant that is?

Otherwise you and others would not become so enraged when its brought up.

Yeah, enraged. Dude, I'm sitting here just absolutely *QUAKING* in anger. :innocent:

I also don't think your being honest with me or yourself. I play almost every night. It is almost always FBW Geth, it takes time to search for another game or try and host one. Many players will leave when the figure out I am not trying to cheese. The fact you will not admit this is a fact makes it very hard for me to respect your point of view. I know its true because I see it every night. You probably don't notice it because thats what you want. The one or two times its something else probably stand out to you more then the last ten games you played.

I don't actually farm all that much anymore, because I already (FINALLY) have the characters I really wanted, and most nights I just play Silver. However, those few times when I want to play a Gold match, it takes me three to five minutes to get going.

Now, if you're impatient enough that 5 minutes is too long to wait, then yeah, I can see how annoying it is. Solution: Join up with friends from the board here, and play with them.

As for whether you respect my point or not, whatever. You have a problem with something and you want that something to be changed to suit YOU, and screw what everyone else wants. If the majority of games are FBWGG, then, gasp, maybe that's what the majority of people want to play? So who are you to demand changes to the way the majority of people want to play?

There are several ways for you to not run into this problem, and YOU refuse to accept those solutions because they're not good enough for you, and so EAware should fix things the way YOU want them fixed. The arrogance practically wafts from your posts.

Again, its obvious to me that it has become far to big a crutch for too many people. They will not let us balance the level. They will claim we will move on to a new spot when I know that isn't true.

If you never farm, how do you know it isn't true? FBDCG is just as easy to farm with two Salarian Engies and two adepts as FBWGG. Glacier works ALMOST just as well as White, it just requires a bit more team work since the Geth can come down the stairs and walk straight into your hiding spot, so you have to be more careful. Once people get used to playing there, it'll be just as easy. if anything it might be easier, because the map is smaller, and the Infiltrator doesn't have to run so far to get to the objectives.

That's the point with what you are asking for. You want ONE particular spot on a map to get nerfed, because in your narrow view of the world (to which all other views must apparently be subject), FBWGG is the ONLY place in the entire world that can be farmed, and thus if Bioware just fixes that (probably by deleting the whole map, since there's like four fine farm spots on it.) then everything will be well again, there will never be any more farming, and you can finally get those Gold lobbies that are just sitting there waiting for you to join at which point they immediately go ready, and you can be off and running in 0.0037 seconds.

When in fact, nothing like that would happen. You'd break one farm spot, and the community would farm elsewhere, and you would be back on here whining about the exact same thing two days later.

You know what other game was really heavily farmed? Guild Wars. And every single time the devs mega-nerfed both the farm spots and the typical solo farm builds, the community found another one in less than a day. And they kept nerfing and kept nerfing and kept nerfing and kept nerfing, until eventually half the builds in the game had become useless, and just trying to run through doing missions was impossible, because every monster had been turned into this mega, magic-annulling Death Machine that would rape entire parties in five seconds.

And then they had to spend the next three expansions undoing all those nerfs and mega monster buffs again.

If the community wants to farm, IT WILL FARM. And other than you being "forced" to take a few very simple solutions to avoid farming groups, it doesn't affect you in the slighest. You're not on a shared economy or anything. People can't flood your games with legendary equipment (or if they do, they're on your side, so all they're doing is helping you) So why does it bother you, other than that you're being extremely petulant over having to wait a bit longer in the lobby?

So, all I ask is for an incentive to make the community open up to other maps/enemies. If you make it so other maps give more credits then those that can handle it will start to explore other options. Right now, everyone thinks well I could spend an hour doing random and getting 70,000 credits or I could do 3 games of FBW Geth and get three times that amount.

Right. So why do you have such a problem with this simple idea? Some people want to farm credits, so they farm credits. You don't want to farm credits, which is fine, but apparently your will is somehow iron-clad and thus valid for the entire community?

And if they break FBWGG, we'll farm somewhere else. And we'll get (averaged) 2.89 times the 70K credits per hour. But your terrible luck in lobbies will still hold.

Again, what really bothers me is the lack of honesty.

No, what ticks you off is how we like to play differently than you. If you want to talk about honesty, start with yourself. You don't care that I'm farming, you're pissed off that the large part of the community farming means you have to spend an extra 2 minutes in a lobby before you can play.

People will come on here and write pages about how and why it needs to be left alone, obviously ticked off that I want more balance. Yet, they never admit a simple truth.

You really are quite full of yourself, aren't you? I love how you presume to speak for everyone in the community.

"FBW Geth is a very efficent, safe and easy way to earn tons of credits. Anything, you don't kill right off the bat will walk right up to the desk and someone will grab them and that will be it. This allows me to earn credits and at the same time not have to use up medi gel, bonuses and ect. I am now able to get all the weapons I want and need."

And after you finally convince EAware to nerf it, two days later you'll be back with the following statement: "FB Glacier geth is a very efficent, safe and easy way to earn tons of credits.
Anything, you don't kill right off the bat will walk right down the stairs up to the desk  and someone will grab them and that will be it. This allows me to
earn credits and at the same time not have to use up medi gel, bonuses
and ect. I am now able to get all the weapons I want and need."

At which point they'll fix that, and you'll come back with a "FB Dagger Cerberus is a very efficent, safe and easy way to earn tons of credits.
Anything, you don't kill right off the bat will walk right down the corridors to the central hub, where they will be decoyed or stasis'ed, allowing them to be killed at will. This allows me to
earn credits and at the same time not have to use up medi gel, bonuses
and ect. I am now able to get all the weapons I want and need."

et cetera et cetera.

1) Host your own game, and stop being so impatient that you can't sit there for three minutes.
2) Start a thread called "Tired of all those p*ssy farmers like me? Wish everyone would play just the way YOU want to play? Join me, and you can all play the way *I* want to play!", find a dozen good players, and play with them.
3) Stop pretending to know what everyone thinks and feels and that your opinion is somehow more valid than anyone else's. Last I checked, I paid the same amount of money for this game as you did, and I'm not asking YOU to change the way you play to suit me.
4) Stop whining.

[AgentChaos]

holy **** wall of text

[Rasputin17]

Creston918 wrote...

Rasputin17 wrote...

SNIP

Just back up a second. Look at how upset you and other posters are getting about even the idea of more balance. It just goes to show how easy FBW Geth is compared to anything else in the game.

The reason it's easy is because most people farm there. Thus, most of the farmers know how it works. Since you obviously don't farm, you therefore don't know this, but you can farm just as easily on other maps, and even against Cerberus. (not the Reapers though. Never them! Brrrr.)

The problem with that is that most farmers don't know how those maps work, because they're all farming FBWGG. So if I set up a different farm map, I either have to accept the fact that I will likely not have anyone who knows how to do it (and thus we'll fail), or I have to talk for five minutes telling people what to do, what to guard, what to look for, etc.

So yes, FBWGG is easiest, I will admit that, but not in such a way that it's "fixable." It's easiest because everyone knows what they're doing. If EAware "fixes" FBWGG, then soon you will be back complaining that everyone is now farming FBDCG. Or FBGGG. The farm crowd will move on to the next thing, and create a ton of matches on the next thing. So how does fixing one farm spot actually do anything FOR YOU? You'll still get the same result you claim to get, which is that it's absolutely impossible to ever get another game going.

So why bother with nerfing it? Or do you want ALL farming nerfed?  Again, because YOU don't like it doesn't mean it's therefore a bad mechanism. You want more Respec cards to drop, and I don't. Well, I'm more important than you, therefore, no more Respec cards should drop.

See how stupidly arrogant that is?

Otherwise you and others would not become so enraged when its brought up.

Yeah, enraged. Dude, I'm sitting here just absolutely *QUAKING* in anger. :innocent:

I also don't think your being honest with me or yourself. I play almost every night. It is almost always FBW Geth, it takes time to search for another game or try and host one. Many players will leave when the figure out I am not trying to cheese. The fact you will not admit this is a fact makes it very hard for me to respect your point of view. I know its true because I see it every night. You probably don't notice it because thats what you want. The one or two times its something else probably stand out to you more then the last ten games you played.

I don't actually farm all that much anymore, because I already (FINALLY) have the characters I really wanted, and most nights I just play Silver. However, those few times when I want to play a Gold match, it takes me three to five minutes to get going.

Now, if you're impatient enough that 5 minutes is too long to wait, then yeah, I can see how annoying it is. Solution: Join up with friends from the board here, and play with them.

As for whether you respect my point or not, whatever. You have a problem with something and you want that something to be changed to suit YOU, and screw what everyone else wants. If the majority of games are FBWGG, then, gasp, maybe that's what the majority of people want to play? So who are you to demand changes to the way the majority of people want to play?

There are several ways for you to not run into this problem, and YOU refuse to accept those solutions because they're not good enough for you, and so EAware should fix things the way YOU want them fixed. The arrogance practically wafts from your posts.

Again, its obvious to me that it has become far to big a crutch for too many people. They will not let us balance the level. They will claim we will move on to a new spot when I know that isn't true.

If you never farm, how do you know it isn't true? FBDCG is just as easy to farm with two Salarian Engies and two adepts as FBWGG. Glacier works ALMOST just as well as White, it just requires a bit more team work since the Geth can come down the stairs and walk straight into your hiding spot, so you have to be more careful. Once people get used to playing there, it'll be just as easy. if anything it might be easier, because the map is smaller, and the Infiltrator doesn't have to run so far to get to the objectives.

That's the point with what you are asking for. You want ONE particular spot on a map to get nerfed, because in your narrow view of the world (to which all other views must apparently be subject), FBWGG is the ONLY place in the entire world that can be farmed, and thus if Bioware just fixes that (probably by deleting the whole map, since there's like four fine farm spots on it.) then everything will be well again, there will never be any more farming, and you can finally get those Gold lobbies that are just sitting there waiting for you to join at which point they immediately go ready, and you can be off and running in 0.0037 seconds.

When in fact, nothing like that would happen. You'd break one farm spot, and the community would farm elsewhere, and you would be back on here whining about the exact same thing two days later.

You know what other game was really heavily farmed? Guild Wars. And every single time the devs mega-nerfed both the farm spots and the typical solo farm builds, the community found another one in less than a day. And they kept nerfing and kept nerfing and kept nerfing and kept nerfing, until eventually half the builds in the game had become useless, and just trying to run through doing missions was impossible, because every monster had been turned into this mega, magic-annulling Death Machine that would rape entire parties in five seconds.

And then they had to spend the next three expansions undoing all those nerfs and mega monster buffs again.

If the community wants to farm, IT WILL FARM. And other than you being "forced" to take a few very simple solutions to avoid farming groups, it doesn't affect you in the slighest. You're not on a shared economy or anything. People can't flood your games with legendary equipment (or if they do, they're on your side, so all they're doing is helping you) So why does it bother you, other than that you're being extremely petulant over having to wait a bit longer in the lobby?

So, all I ask is for an incentive to make the community open up to other maps/enemies. If you make it so other maps give more credits then those that can handle it will start to explore other options. Right now, everyone thinks well I could spend an hour doing random and getting 70,000 credits or I could do 3 games of FBW Geth and get three times that amount.

Right. So why do you have such a problem with this simple idea? Some people want to farm credits, so they farm credits. You don't want to farm credits, which is fine, but apparently your will is somehow iron-clad and thus valid for the entire community?

And if they break FBWGG, we'll farm somewhere else. And we'll get (averaged) 2.89 times the 70K credits per hour. But your terrible luck in lobbies will still hold.

Again, what really bothers me is the lack of honesty.

No, what ticks you off is how we like to play differently than you. If you want to talk about honesty, start with yourself. You don't care that I'm farming, you're pissed off that the large part of the community farming means you have to spend an extra 2 minutes in a lobby before you can play.

People will come on here and write pages about how and why it needs to be left alone, obviously ticked off that I want more balance. Yet, they never admit a simple truth.

You really are quite full of yourself, aren't you? I love how you presume to speak for everyone in the community.

"FBW Geth is a very efficent, safe and easy way to earn tons of credits. Anything, you don't kill right off the bat will walk right up to the desk and someone will grab them and that will be it. This allows me to earn credits and at the same time not have to use up medi gel, bonuses and ect. I am now able to get all the weapons I want and need."

And after you finally convince EAware to nerf it, two days later you'll be back with the following statement: "FB Glacier geth is a very efficent, safe and easy way to earn tons of credits.
Anything, you don't kill right off the bat will walk right down the stairs up to the desk  and someone will grab them and that will be it. This allows me to
earn credits and at the same time not have to use up medi gel, bonuses
and ect. I am now able to get all the weapons I want and need."

At which point they'll fix that, and you'll come back with a "FB Dagger Cerberus is a very efficent, safe and easy way to earn tons of credits.
Anything, you don't kill right off the bat will walk right down the corridors to the central hub, where they will be decoyed or stasis'ed, allowing them to be killed at will. This allows me to
earn credits and at the same time not have to use up medi gel, bonuses
and ect. I am now able to get all the weapons I want and need."

et cetera et cetera.

1) Host your own game, and stop being so impatient that you can't sit there for three minutes.
2) Start a thread called "Tired of all those p*ssy farmers like me? Wish everyone would play just the way YOU want to play? Join me, and you can all play the way *I* want to play!", find a dozen good players, and play with them.
3) Stop pretending to know what everyone thinks and feels and that your opinion is somehow more valid than anyone else's. Last I checked, I paid the same amount of money for this game as you did, and I'm not asking YOU to change the way you play to suit me.
4) Stop whining.

I don't know why you expect me to read all that when you haven't read a word of what I have had to say. Over and over again. Everyone farms FBW Geth so I have too. They do so because its easy for them to earn credits. Give different maps more credits each week and more credits for Random/Random and more people will branch out  to other maps. I will be happy because I will be able to play on other maps other then FBW without waiting a half hour. The people who like to camp at FBW Geth over and over will have nothing change. The only reason I could see being against it is if you are upset less people will be on that map.Thats all I have to say on the matter at the moment.

Modifié par Rasputin17, 04 mai 2012 - 07:35 .

[Dr.Sid]

They actually are nerfing it. Decoy got nerfed, and AI got boosted (a bit). Hunters especially ale a lot better then month ago.

[Drawrof]

Stealth u/u/gold

All you need is one friend. Play 1 round of u/u/silver. If the other two players are competent quietly switch next match to u/u/gold. Play match like any other silver and after you extract don't be surprised when pubs send message thanking you.

Gold is no different than silver just tougher and more mobs. Most great gold players don't camp they just kill stuff and survive better than the average player. I find many have a preconceived opinion of gold that it must be camped. Using stealth u/u/gold it drops this fear and allows players to just have fun with teammates.

[Cyonan]

Rasputin17 wrote...
I don't know why you expect me to read all that when you haven't read a word of what I have had to say. Over and over again. Everyone farms FBW Geth so I have too. They do so because its easy for them to earn credits. Give different maps more credits each week and more credits for Random/Random and more people will branch out  to other maps. I will be happy because I will be able to play on other maps other then FBW without waiting a half hour. The people who like to camp at FBW Geth over and over will have nothing change. The only reason I could see being against it is if you are upset less people will be on that map.Thats all I have to say on the matter at the moment.

No, you don't have to play it. You can find friends, you can host your own game and just deal with the wait times that you get for playing the less popular setup.

The only person that's telling you that you're forced to play FBW/G/G is you, and because of that you feel like you want to tell other people to play the way you want them to.

[Tiamatshade]

*waits patiently for Ras to respond to Tia's reply*

[AzuraAngellus]

No way Bioware will change anything here. It isn't broken. There's no glitch being abused. People found a good tactic to farm, and people will ALWAYS do that.

[Xetto]

Rasputin17 wrote...

How often do you play Gold? Are you denying the fact it takes much more time to find a random game that isn't FBW Geth? Even if you don't think its a "problem" its a fact that it takes longer to find games other then FBW Geth. 

Well maybe you are looking at this the wrong way... As it seems the MAJORITY of players likes FBW Geth more than the other maps/enemies. So maybe its EVERYTHING ELSE that needs fixing!

Modifié par Tecco, 04 mai 2012 - 08:00 .

[a ViciousFerret]

This argument is more boring than the Prothean argument. Glad I didn't get involved in this one at the start...

Anyway, I proposed this a while ago:

someone suggested in another thread that we could have a public community galactic readiness map in addition to our private one. When people complete a match they add a point to the map they just played region and over time due to thousands of people playing the game, the overall percentage of the general region goes up. But when a region gains a percentage, the other regions also lose points thus lowering their percentage. Therefore, regions percentage will always be moving and changing daily.

Everybody following so far? Ok, now let us say the regions with the lowest percentage are the regions that are in most need of fresh troops to take down enemies. Thus the maps located in the lower % regions gain an experience and credit multiplier. Conversely, the regions with the very high %, give out less experience and credits.

The community galactic map could be swapped with your personal galactic map in the same place it currently is using the triggers. (or mouse for PC)

This would end FBW/G/G farming as FBW would give out less credits and most farmers are going to(or should anyway) attempt to try their luck in other maps in their attempt to gain more credits.

[Wesus]

A rasputin17 thread with whine



Ow i still got it...



OT :
1) search for any other map than fbw
2) search reapers/Cerberus
3) wait max. 3 minutes b4 ur in-game
4) ????
5) profit.

[BoomDynamite]

John Epler wrote...

Using image memes to insult other posters is treated exactly the same as insulting them in a post.

Let's stay civil.

Sorry...

[AldarionnEB]

a ViciousFerret wrote...

This argument is more boring than the Prothean argument. Glad I didn't get involved in this one at the start...

Anyway, I proposed this a while ago:

someone suggested in another thread that we could have a public community galactic readiness map in addition to our private one. When people complete a match they add a point to the map they just played region and over time due to thousands of people playing the game, the overall percentage of the general region goes up. But when a region gains a percentage, the other regions also lose points thus lowering their percentage. Therefore, regions percentage will always be moving and changing daily.

Everybody following so far? Ok, now let us say the regions with the lowest percentage are the regions that are in most need of fresh troops to take down enemies. Thus the maps located in the lower % regions gain an experience and credit multiplier. Conversely, the regions with the very high %, give out less experience and credits.

The community galactic map could be swapped with your personal galactic map in the same place it currently is using the triggers. (or mouse for PC)

This would end FBW/G/G farming as FBW would give out less credits and most farmers are going to(or should anyway) attempt to try their luck in other maps in their attempt to gain more credits.

I.....like this idea. A lot. It would reward players who already enjoy playing on other maps besides Fire Base White, and it would give farmers a reason to change up which maps they are playing. It would need to be balanced properly to incentivise playing on certain maps enough for farmers to move away from their preferred spot, but assuming they did that well it could work.

[a ViciousFerret]

What more incentive do you need? You are getting significantly less credits on FBW than you would on other maps. (especially since FBW is currently like 80% of all online matches on Gold)

Also, I think Random Map should always give the same amount of credits. I mean it isn't your fault if you had a Random Map and got FBW, you shouldn't be getting less credits because of it.

Modifié par a ViciousFerret, 04 mai 2012 - 10:49 .

[Nocturnalfox]

I don't deny that people would farm other maps if it was done that way.
But it would push them out of their comfort zone if the maximum amount could by on moon level with reapers as your enemies or even cerberus.

My point is valid, it IS galaxy at war, not war at FBW against synthetics.

What I suggest is credit incentives to play other maps and enemies and credit deduction for playing the most common.

Modifié par Nocturnalfox, 05 mai 2012 - 01:24 .

[lordshenlong]

*points to 200 people who don't farm FBW* (not all the time at least, infrequently at best)

if you play public then you're gonna get alot of bad teams, farmers and abusive players (and other bad things)

Give it up, it's bad for you.

The public games won't change.

Modifié par lordshenlong, 05 mai 2012 - 01:30 .

[astheoceansblue]

I haven't played FBW Geth for about a couple of weeks at least. I last used it to level a promoted class.

Since then I've joined games, hosted games, organised games via the forums, and not once have I been forced to play a map/enemy type I haven't wanted to.

There's really no issue with FBWg ruining anything.

[Bamford38]

astheoceansblue wrote...

I haven't played FBW Geth for about a couple of weeks at least. I last used it to level a promoted class.

Since then I've joined games, hosted games, organised games via the forums, and not once have I been forced to play a map/enemy type I haven't wanted to.

There's really no issue with FBWg ruining anything.

There definitely is on xbox

[lordshenlong]

Bamford38 wrote...

astheoceansblue wrote...

I haven't played FBW Geth for about a couple of weeks at least. I last used it to level a promoted class.

Since then I've joined games, hosted games, organised games via the forums, and not once have I been forced to play a map/enemy type I haven't wanted to.

There's really no issue with FBWg ruining anything.

There definitely is on xbox

as i keep saying, only if you play publics.

[Bamford38]

lordshenlong wrote...

Bamford38 wrote...

astheoceansblue wrote...

I haven't played FBW Geth for about a couple of weeks at least. I last used it to level a promoted class.

Since then I've joined games, hosted games, organised games via the forums, and not once have I been forced to play a map/enemy type I haven't wanted to.

There's really no issue with FBWg ruining anything.

There definitely is on xbox

as i keep saying, only if you play publics.

Im a bar manager. Sometimes the only time i get to play is after 3-4am. So i dont really have a lot of choice.

The worst thing is that FBWGG is actually a fun game to play if people arent camped at the back. But everyone insticntively runs to that area. So its literally impossible to play that map and enemy as anything but a farming game.

Thats why farmers are runing the game, theyve made that map and enemy impossible to enjoy.

Everyone should also be aware that theres a very simiar exploit appearing on firebase condor. I got put into over 5 games last night with people farming that map. But im kinda hoping the farmers change to that map and stop using FBW.

[xtorma]

I went in game, set my filter to r/r/gold. I joined 14 games. I only counted and wrote down the games that had 4 players in 2 minutes or less (thank you g15 keyboard) of those 14 games 2 were fbwgg, and 1 was a game in progress with no salarians and they were not in the farm spot.

People much prefer to play against cerberus on the games where they made a choice.

Modifié par xtorma, 05 mai 2012 - 01:45 .

[Kevidabu]

Make it so that ALL geth can auto-kill by suplex.