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[Dexi]

People need to understand that between ME1 and ME3, Shepard learns a lot of the Reapers.

They do have a point: synthetics can at some point wipe out all organics, and destroying the Reapers would solve the Reaper problem but won't solve the general synthetic problem.

Even though Shepard is out to kill all of them, THAT would be a stalemate, because sooner or later they'll face the same problem.

In the end, TIM might have been right: controlling the Reapers, just for the purpose of aiding the organics could do much better, as the OP said: make them rebuild the relays, share their technology and then kill them.

The difference between what Shepard would be doing and what TIM would be doing is that TIM wanted power, he wanted to "uplift" humanity, but really he just wanted power over everybody else, whilst Shepard would help rebuild the Galactic Civilization, for everybody's benefits.




As for Synthetis, theoretically it's even better because it's solves the organics vs synthetics problem altogether: no more synthetics or organics, just similar hybrids with no reason to distinguish themselves among themselves.

[0x30A88]

coolbeans wrote...

"You can choose to control the Reapers, but then you will die"

"How can I control them If I die?"

*Shrug*

Ah space magic, you are a harsh ****.

I bet it's kinda like this: (Spoiler for those who haven't finished ME3)
http://i41.tinypic.com/j5dx0j.jpg

[trustno1n]

I must say, it's a brilliant solution...

[poerksen]

Synthesis is bullcrap. How would that even work? Im not a genetecist or anything, but how can you add synthetic parts to DNA? Isn't life created from inorganic matter aswell? Ultimately new life would be created that is not partly synthetic?

Control and Destroy also make no sense.

[TMA LIVE]

I somewhat agree that using Control to Destroy the Reapers should be an expanded option in the Extended Cut:

http://social.biowar...ndex/11842598/1

Though if I was in control, I wouldn't waste time with the power I have over them, because who knows how long Shepard can remain Shepard, and stay sane or in control. So I'd kill them right away.

[Berkilak]

Dexi wrote...

People need to understand that between ME1 and ME3, Shepard learns a lot of the Reapers.

Actually, Shepard learns a lot of about the Reapers in 1 & 2 (crytic as it is), but all of that is overridden in the last five minutes of ME3.

[Armannen]

TMA LIVE wrote...
[...]
Though if I was in control, I wouldn't waste time with the power I have over them, because who knows how long Shepard can remain Shepard, and stay sane or in control. So I'd kill them right away.

 

Yes, this!

The thing with control is, how would Shepard not go nuts?
I mean, even assuming Astroboy is telling the truth, and Shepard becomes the superreaper computer; what link to his allies does he even have left? He'd be a freaking god. 

My interpretation is the control ending has shepard nobly sacrificing himself to make the reapers leave and maybe help rebuild, only to at some point start seeing things from a "neutral defender of the galaxy"(aka reaper) view. Let's say that when done with this realm he heads for the core of a star.

He starts thinkin...computing, "What the hell are we doing? We have the power to do everything, and we choose to squander this potential? Leave the organics fumbling towards their own destruction?"
And then Shepreaper orders the death of everyone in order to save everyone.
Except Verner, who is also ascended to reaperform and finally becomes Shepard bff. 

(still less of a compromise to reaper agenda than synthesis if you ask me though)

[Han Shot First]

Shepard isn't the first person to be turned into Reaper goo and to have had his conciousness uploaded to the machines. Many of the people throughout the millenia who fell victim to the Reapers and were harvested, would have opposed the Reapers just as fiercely as Shepard had. Yet after being joined to the Reaper group conciousness they became just as determined to wipe out organics as all the Reapers that came before them. What reason do we have to believe that Shepard would be any different? He would no longer be human. He wouldn't even be himself really, he'd be joined with the conciousness of millions of other individuals who were harvested, as well as AI processes.

The Control Enging is a species of defeat. Shepard fails in his mission, the Reapers survive, and there is no guarantee that the galaxy has been saved for all time. The threat of annihilation will always hang over it.

I personally would never pick the Control Enging unless I had created a playthrough where I intended to lose the game.

Modifié par Han Shot First, 04 mai 2012 - 08:07 .

[Legion64]

Actually I believe the Catalyst said Shepard was the first Organic to get as far as he did.

[ME 3]

if only you could control the reapers to "convince" bioware into making a different ending/s....

[HunterX6]

KyuzoS7 wrote...

how do you know you actually controlled them? your half dead as it is i doubt you could battle it out with reaper minds and win

one word "crucible" even the catalyst says that the crucible "changed him/it"

[Legion64]

I am pretty sure when the Reapers left Earth, that must have been under Shepard's influence.

[Tim Skijwalker]

 you posted this in a no ME3 spoilers allowed section

good job

[THE NOOBIE NOOB WHO TYPES IN CAPS]

Aryck1095 V2 wrote...

I'd just make them start shooting each other while screaming "who's assuming direct control now b*tch!"

I would LOL so hard if there as an ability to control reapers in'game ( take brute for a Joyride )
BTW I totally agree that after control, you could do whatever you want  with the reapers, but is there a guarantee that they'll let you control them?

[Ghost]

I was thinking the sun part for awhile now.

[Fedi.St]

3 years old gamer. neeext.

[LegionMan]

You can't spell Control[l] without Trol[l].  But seriously why are still still debating which ending is "best"
Also, OP is indoctrinated :-O

Modifié par LegionMan, 06 mai 2012 - 02:12 .

[Xellith]

The catalyst says that eventually Synthetics will destroy ALL organics.

Here are your new options:
1. If you believe him - he is a synthetic. Your best option is to destroy the reapers.
2. If you do not believe him - he is a reaper. Your best option is to destroy the reapers.

Unless the reapers are organics in which case its a whole new ball game.  Organic minds in a synthetic shell is a pretty annoying problem to figure out.

Modifié par Xellith, 06 mai 2012 - 03:22 .

[Legion64]

LegionMan wrote...

You can't spell Control[l] without Trol[l].  But seriously why are still still debating which ending is "best"
Also, OP is indoctrinated :-O

No, NO! All of you, so self righteous! Do you think posting that picture was easy?! There were sacrifices!

[cyrslash1974]

I don't consider control as the best choice, even if I respect your opinion and your solution proposed.

At this stage, I prefer destroying these bast... the reaper, but I think that no solution proposed by BlueBoy is a good one.