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[Crimzoneyed]

I'd say the 15th we will no longer see as many farming lobbies.
Diablo games involve a lot of farming for armor and weapons.
I bet 80% of all people that do farming lobbies are old wow and D1/2 veterans

[Iodine]

keginkc wrote...

Moral of the story is that I think the biggest problems with MMOs is MMO players.  Not that we're bad people, but that we're self destructive, both in terms of not giving games time to grow into what they could be, and because we thrive so much on routine that we choose to do things that will ultimately burn us out.

I think you can expand that to "I think the biggest problems with games is game players". Look how widespread farming is in ME3 now, and it's only a rudimentary "drop"/farming system. :\\

I wonder what they expect will happen once they finally get everything completely maxed after farming 8-12 hours per day, 7 days per week for 3 months straight. I HAVE TO BEAT ME3 MULTIPLAYER :V

Edit: And I speak from experience, having wasted most of my formative years playing godawful, primitive grindfest Korean MMO betas. Grind 12 hour per day, try to be the first one to max level/<some other achievement>, get burned out, jump ship when the game goes gold. Find new terrible grindfest MMO, repeat. I may have missed out on playing any sports in middle school, but at least I have less-than-fond memories of Helbreath/Redmoon/Blackmoon/RO/etc.!

Modifié par Iodine, 04 mai 2012 - 07:27 .

[HolyAvenger]

I don't intend to play Diablo, so meh. Hopefully there are still plenty of people around.

[1337haxwtg]

All you D3 fans can leave with that good ol' EA Sports sayin'.

(in all srsns, I would play D3 if I had a working computer right now. That isn't to say I'd abandon ME3, but I'd be splitting my free time)

[Sweddington1]

keginkc wrote...

Iodine wrote...

 How many "WoW killer" MMOs have been released in the past 5 years? How many are being released soon? How's SWTOR doing on that front?

I was just having that discussion with someone, about how WoW (had there never been a WoW prior to this point...) would never survive in today's MMO environment.  Because every single new release that comes out goes exactly the same way:

Stage 1) People are excited
Stage 2) Game launches, people love it
Stage 3) People play 100 hours a week and complain that they've run out of things to do after a month
Stage 4) People grind the same stuff for 40 hours a week for two more months and then complain that there isn't enough to do
Stage 5) People move onto the next game - go back to stage 1

Nobody has any patience.  And I don't mean that just in terms of waiting for content or features.  I mean that we have to do and see *everything* that a game has to offer as quickly as possible.  I think I've done well with MMOs in the past specifically because I haven't played them at launch.  For the games I played the most, I didn't start until the game was a year old.  EQ and Lord of the Rings Online, primarily.  The games I played at launch I quit within 6 months, including WoW and SWG.

SWTOR may actually be the exception to that rule because I've played from launch (am actually playing it right now, tabbed out to check on the Origin problems).  I think it's because I've stuck strictly to playing class stories.  I haven't run a single level 50 flashpoint.  I haven't run a single op.  I decided well before launch that I would wait until I decided which character I liked the most before I settled on a 'main' to raid with, and that I would be in no hurry at all to get into the gear grind.  Because that to me is the worst part of MMOs, the way we, as players, basically turn them into part-time jobs.   Maybe it's because I'm older (nearing 40) and maybe it's because I've done the MMO song-and-dance before, but I figured why do the same things in TOR that I was doing in every other MMO, the games I ultimately all ended up quitting because I got bored...


Moral of the story is that I think the biggest problems with MMOs is MMO players.  Not that we're bad people, but that we're self destructive, both in terms of not giving games time to grow into what they could be, and because we thrive so much on routine that we choose to do things that will ultimately burn us out.

Ironically I'm saying that on a multiplayer board where I've been playing the same matches on the same maps with the same characters for two months. 

Have a few points of agreement/disagreement, but overall...

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[Zorinho20_CRO]

DnVill wrote...

I'm downloading Witcher 2 atm. I'm halfway through and when I start playing it. I'll be stuck on it so bye bye.

Witcher 2 is a great game.You will enjoy.

[AleBwal]

ME3 MP was res for me, in France 

Modifié par Angel-Lightning, 04 mai 2012 - 07:45 .

[BellaStrega]

Chromatix wrote...

Grubby_The_Bear wrote...

Chromatix wrote...

R.I.P. ME3 Multiplayer 3/6/12-5/2/12

Fixed that for you

His date signified the release of Diablo 3. You fixed nothing.

Pfffft, so, you REALLY think people who play TPS-Action will switch to Action-RPG? So naive, sir, so naive.

Switch is a strong word, but some of us play both...

[mcz2345]

You are a blight on Galactic purity !

[keginkc]

I loved the first Witcher, bought Witcher 2 pre-release, played it for 3 hours, and haven't played it since. I'm apparently on the other side of the bell curve from the droves of people who hated DA2 (which I finished two or three times last year) and loved TW2, but I can't for the life of me tell you why. Something about it didn't work for me.

I need to remember sometime in July (when I finally have time...) to load the Enhanced Edition. I paid for the darn thing, I should probably try and get my money's worth.

[Sacrificial Bias]

corporal doody wrote...

this is only relevant for those with PCs....i guess.

dont think it will have much of an effect for Xbox players...if any at all...
i think those that were just sticking around for the novelty of MP would have been gone by now.

I just took a look at Diablo III to see what the fuss is all about.  Saw my cousin playing Diablo II and wasn't much that entertained by it.  Still, it's good for PC or Mac, so anyone with a computer will be playing it.

Can't imagine anyone who owns a console that wouldn't have a computer, and furthermore, I can't imagine anyone here posting on the forums wouldn't own a computer O.o

I might give it a shot, because I really have no further reason to buy more spectre packs.  Not because I've unlocked everything, but because there isn't much incentive to unlock more stuff simply because A) the remaining ultra rares suck and aren't Gold viable and any new content is likely to suck as well outside of new classes(maybe).

The Kishock and the Striker AR, the two new projectile weapons are quite useless and I have almost never seen them used even on FBWGG farming runs.  The drop rate for them also seemed unnaturally high given that I kept getting upgrades for both of them in one PSP and was spammed with them for the next 10 PSPs.  The Batarian Soldier still does that thing where he hits every enemy in a near 360 degree radius with Ballistic Blades, though I admittedly don't see it much outside of Bronze because being anywhere within 2m of cover screws up the power.  Also only occasionally see the Batarian Sentinel in Bronze games, which ought to be a testament to how much it sucks ass.

[derheidi]

Saw 2 turian soldiers with the striker on fbwgg yesterday...kinda funny to look at when you're outside.. so lonely.

And I'll play sure - every 2 weeks for one match, and maybe SP when we get the violet ending.

Let's face it. There's no longterm content in ME3 MP, and the content that exists, is quite shallow. People will eventually just stop playing it. I don't think they even anticipated MP being this successful at all.
And for what it's supposed to be, i really love(d) it.

[megawug]

Yeah, ME3 has been surprisingly fun IMHO. There's enough variation between biotics/tech/weapons to keep it interesting for awhile.

[XCPTNL]

I don't play Diablo. Played the beta and was disappointed how boring it was and how it looked like it was over 5 years Also Fantasy-like setting... like basically every other RPGish game aside from ME. So no thanks...

I am however interested how the Max Payne MP will do and also getting into Tribes Ascend more. But D3 will hardly be the end of ME3 MP... They are just so completely different. No doubt D3 will get a lot of attention and players who played other games will be playing D3 only then but there's also a lot of players who are not even remotely interested in D3.

[moteh]

screw Diablo 3, The day every other game dies for me is when Guild Wars 2 comes out, the beta weekend was freaking awesome

[lays12]

Iodine wrote...

Let's just hope we lose as many undesirables as possible. 5/15/2012 will henceforth be a day of celebration for many of us.

[Sweddington1]

Korjyan wrote...

I don't play Diablo. Played the beta and was disappointed how boring it was and how it looked like it was over 5 years Also Fantasy-like setting... like basically every other RPGish game aside from ME. So no thanks...

I am however interested how the Max Payne MP will do and also getting into Tribes Ascend more. But D3 will hardly be the end of ME3 MP... They are just so completely different. No doubt D3 will get a lot of attention and players who played other games will be playing D3 only then but there's also a lot of players who are not even remotely interested in D3.

You know, that's sort of like saying "Shakespeare is so cliche..." You do realize, of course, that Diablo is probably one of the foundation stones upon which your modern gaming experience a la rpg is based, right? Wait...that would mean...oh yeah, you weren't alive then.

[Prawny]

So it will die on the 3rd of June, and come back to life on the 5th of Marchtober?
That doesn't even make sense...

[Ben Shep]

Battlepope190 wrote...

Hopefully all the credit glitching chumps will move on to that game and try to exploit it into oblivion and leave us in peace.

Is this still happening?

why havnt they been punished?

[arathor_87]

Childish thread. I have a pre-order on Diablo 3 CE, but I also love ME and won't stop playing it only because a new game is released. Quitting is for losers!

[Lycidas]

Well it's not like 70% of the ME3 MP players haven't left already. It takes longer and longer to fill up a lobby or find one at all and most of my friends moved on weeks ago. ME just does not have much to keep people playing for very long. So yeah, I fully expect ME3 MP on PC to end up quite deserted after the D3 release. I know I can't wait to play that game.

[XCPTNL]

Sweddington1 wrote...

You know, that's sort of like saying "Shakespeare is so cliche..." You do realize, of course, that Diablo is probably one of the foundation stones upon which your modern gaming experience a la rpg is based, right? Wait...that would mean...oh yeah, you weren't alive then.

I was alive then and played a lot of Diablo 1 when it was released. I've been playing games for over 25 years now and Diablo is not a foundation stone for me personally. And for the most part I don't even like RPGs. And especially not all that fantasy stuff. I pefer SciFi settings and action orientied gameplay which is why I also play ME - although I actually prefer the multiplayer because the singleplayer is not challenging at all (okay, the multiplayer is not that challenging as well but they could at least have put as much enemies into the insanity singleplayer as they have in a gold round to make it a bit more interesting).

I just said that Diablo will hardly kill any other game. It will get a lot of attention and player bases of some games will get smaller but I doubt it will be the end of any game and especially not one that is completely different from D3. Like ME3...

[UKStory135]

corporal doody wrote...

this is only relevant for those with PCs....i guess.

dont think it will have much of an effect for Xbox players...if any at all...
i think those that were just sticking around for the novelty of MP would have been gone by now.

I agree, but some XBoxers will leave for Max Payne

[phoneixxineohp]

mcz2345 wrote...

You are a blight on Galactic purity !

And you sir...

and you...

(points to you) and YOUUUU

In all seriousness, I'm hoping that D3 is released so that Blizzard can focus on the development of the SC2 expansions.  I really don't care for D3 so I'll probably still play ME3 MP.  Meanwhile, I'm waiting for Bethesda to release an expansion DLC for Skyrim.

[RTalon235]

Sad Floppy Panda wrote...

And the Heavens opened up and The Shepard declared "Let the Heathens begone, and the Mass Effect shall flourish and all shall be joyous and merry!"

Amen !