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[Ace_Blazer]

I dunno how to do what's happening in the video. I just played Cerberus on Gold and my Sabotage was doing nothing except hacking turrets and the occasional Atlas that fired maybe one shot if I was lucky. I could only use it as a stagger weapon to steady phantoms for my sniper...

I was also playing FBWGG and all of my targets ended up exploding due to being killed while under sabotage, and I saw hardly any [Sabotage] kills.  Does this backfire not affect synthetics as much?

EDIT: Wait I get it.  I had Berserk.  Tech vulnerability affects backfire? Ok...time to promote.

Modifié par Ace_Blazer, 06 mai 2012 - 10:37 .

[tytanowy]

Ace_Blazer wrote...

I dunno how to do what's happening in the video. I just played Cerberus on Gold and my Sabotage was doing nothing except hacking turrets and the occasional Atlas that fired maybe one shot if I was lucky. I could only use it as a stagger weapon to steady phantoms for my sniper...

I was also playing FBWGG and all of my targets ended up exploding due to being killed while under sabotage, and I saw hardly any [Sabotage] kills.  Does this backfire not affect synthetics as much?

EDIT: Wait I get it.  I had Berserk.  Tech vulnerability affects backfire? Ok...time to promote.

Backfire doesn't affect synthetics at all. Sabotage hacks them. Backfire affects ALL organics.
Backfire benefits from Tech v.
Backfire unfortunately doesn't give you any 'points' or 'Tech kills' when enemy is killed.

Modifié par tytanowy, 06 mai 2012 - 10:51 .

[Tankcommander]

I am still having trouble figuring out how backfire works. The QI is super useful for hacking, and apparently now for backfire, but is it a damage over time thing where the enemy takes damage every time he shoots? The phantom seems to act this way, but Nemesis and Troopers just get the one shock immediately after. I'm also noticing no effect on Brutes and Banshees.

Any good ideas for a 6/3/5/6/6 build? I want to keep my hacking ability and ridiculous weapon bonuses, but reap the benefits of sabotage if at all possible.

[Mr. Heavy]

Tried this build on silver v Cerberus. Dominated, and scored dead last by a substantial margin. Kind funny really.

[RamsenC]

I was destroying Brutes, Banshees, and Reavers with ease with Backfire. I'd need to test it solo to be sure, but it seems to effect all non-synthetics. .

Modifié par RamsenC, 06 mai 2012 - 05:30 .

[january42]

HolyAvenger wrote...

The whole no score if they die simply from backfire is dumb.

What weapon would you recommend for best synergy with a sabotage-focussed QI?

You mean I could be scoring more? wow.


I've had some good luck with the paladin.  This is because I pick the "extra power" evo on tac-cloak.  The idea is that you sabotage something and then shift targts to something else so it can shoot stuff.

The paladin basicly hits like a Valiant but weighs less, and you arn't getting the +40 damage anyway.

It's awsome vs geth, as you can hold down entire spawn points by your self with the chaos hacked units cause. It's actually quite good vs Cerberus on gold also.   I actually do worse with the build on silver, as Cerberus doesn't have nearly as much stuff that can be hacked. On gold you can lock down an area with a hacked turret or atlas if you have to.

Any,  the Quarina Hacker is one of my favorite charachters. Lots of fun to play.   I speck for hacking, but if you speck for backfire it works like a SI.  Cloak=>Zap+shoot.   Humans get the short end of the stick here.

Modifié par january42, 06 mai 2012 - 05:37 .

[chcknwng]

january42 wrote...

HolyAvenger wrote...

The whole no score if they die simply from backfire is dumb.

What weapon would you recommend for best synergy with a sabotage-focussed QI?

You mean I could be scoring more? wow.


I've had some good luck with the paladin.  This is because I pick the "extra power" evo on tac-cloak.  The idea is that you sabotage something and then shift targts to something else so it can shoot stuff.

The paladin basicly hits like a Valiant but weighs less, and you arn't getting the +40 damage anyway.

It's awsome vs geth, as you can hold down entire spawn points by your self with the chaos hacked units cause. It's actually quite good vs Cerberus on gold also.   I actually do worse with the build on silver, as Cerberus doesn't have nearly as much stuff that can be hacked. On gold you can lock down an area with a hacked turret or atlas if you have to.

Any,  the Quarina Hacker is one of my favorite charachters. Lots of fun to play.   I speck for hacking, but if you speck for backfire it works like a SI.  Cloak=>Zap+shoot.   Humans get the short end of the stick here.

With organics, just hack it and shoot it with any weapon. If your sabotage is powerful enough to finish them, the kill will register with your weapon. You can consistently score very high since you are OSK almost all spawns.

[XCPTNL]

Does the Quarian passive power damage boost the damage of backfire?

[OniGanon]

Korjyan wrote...

Does the Quarian passive power damage boost the damage of backfire?

Yes. It also boosts the damage of the explosion when a hacked synthetic is destroyed, assuming you take that evolution (and you should).

Modifié par OniGanon, 06 mai 2012 - 06:21 .

[XCPTNL]

I was only intending to use Sabotage to Level 4 actually.

[OniGanon]

Oh.

Well just so you know, Backfire will only do half the damage seen in the video without Tech Vulnerability.

[Sable Dove]

I don't get it. Am I using a different Sabotage?
I tried it out in Silver, with pretty much the build you described, but it didn't do anything to Husks, Brutes, Banshees, or Ravagers (except setting up tech bursts), and it didn't do anywhere close to the amount of damage in the video.

[XCPTNL]

OniGanon wrote...

Oh.

Well just so you know, Backfire will only do half the damage seen in the video without Tech Vulnerability.

Thanks for the info. Didn't know that. Then I guess I'll have to max it and maybe go 4/6/6/6/4 instead.
Currently I'm waiting if there will be a male Quarian Infiltrator with the same skill set in the next DLC. Because I don't really like that female model that much. Then I'll give it a try and maybe the Quarian will get a place on my playlist at the side of the Salarian and Geth.

[WaffleCrab]

with your build, hell yeah its situational. If you take the extra damage, explosion and teach damage weakness aproach, you can keep using it all the time as long as there is someone else in the team who can deal tech damage.

[OniGanon]

Sable Dove wrote...

I don't get it. Am I using a different Sabotage?
I tried it out in Silver, with pretty much the build you described, but it didn't do anything to Husks, Brutes, Banshees, or Ravagers (except setting up tech bursts), and it didn't do anywhere close to the amount of damage in the video.

Sabotage oneshotted Husks on Gold even before this buff, so I dunno...

I can only assume that when you say 'pretty much the build you described' you really mean to say 'a totally different build with Duration and Beserk evolutions in Sabotage and/or using Sabotage outside of Cloak.'

If you build the way I described - if you have rank 6 Sabotage with Backfire and Tech Vulnerability, Rank 4+ Cloak with Damage evolution, rank 5+ Quarian passive with full Power Damage - and always use Sabotage while under Cloak, you will do the damage seen in the video.

I can 100% guarantee you Backfire does damage Husks, Ravagers, Brutes and Banshees.

[wicked_being]

I got kicked after a match because my teammates thought I was doing nothing and not shooting at all. Fighting against Cerberus and watching enemies mysteriously die was the most fun I've had in weeks.

[zerozen00]

Korjyan wrote...

...Because I don't really like that female model that much...

dem hips... What's not to like?

/zen

Modifié par zerozen00, 09 mai 2012 - 04:41 .

[underm1nd]

Yeah backfire specced quarian infiltrator with a talon is amasing, but after most gold games either some tries to kick me or the host leaves because i get 1st place with only an assist gold medal and bronze kills medal... even though every time i get atleast a bronze revive badge. I really dont know if backfire not giving you points for a kill unless you damage the target with something else before is intentional or not.

[kiltysue]

Probably, it's best that backfire stays bugged for the
kill chart. People care too much about it, and if they
start seeing more high scores, they're going to cry for
nerfs. Let the salarian and geth infiltrators keep their
chart topping. The quarian backfire infiltrator is more fun.

If you want to kill yourself laughing, try a silver or gold
solo run, and try to keep your score as low as possible.

[Dervim]

Errrr...I've tried QI to see what fuss was about and while I was roflstomping almost everything, Sabotage wasn't really doing any damage at all to armored targets like Ravagers, Brutes and Banshees. It did took down barrier off Banshee but it did no further damage.

By the way, does anybody knows if sticky nade counts as tech damage and if so, does it gets affected by Sabotage 100% vulnerability effect(which I do have)?

[Dharvy]

Dervim wrote...

Errrr...I've tried QI to see what fuss was about and while I was roflstomping almost everything, Sabotage wasn't really doing any damage at all to armored targets like Ravagers, Brutes and Banshees. It did took down barrier off Banshee but it did no further damage.

By the way, does anybody knows if sticky nade counts as tech damage and if so, does it gets affected by Sabotage 100% vulnerability effect(which I do have)?

From just playing gold with my QI I think Sabotage seems to be less effective with each use. Sort of like when you hack the first time its good but after a second hack on the same target its less effective and a third seems not to do anything at all. Same with stasis if you stasis a phantom 2 times you can't seem to stasis it a third. But yes I've seen it strip banshees shields but at most I seen it take about 3 bars of armor from it. I run with a claymore x so I cloak then sabotage and shoot then reload cancel and shoot til dead. Depends on how close I am but a brute goes down in about  1 cloak sabotage and 1-3 shots, same with a ravager, the banshe not so much and after constant use it only seems to take about a bar or two of armor from it. 

[Dervim]

Ah, I see. So I can't just spam Banshee to death with it.