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[legion999]

Elhanan wrote...

legion999 wrote...

Jailtime? Are you serious?

Yes, but this is simply an expression. My desire is that the ones that broke the agreement receive the full weight of penalties such a pledge allows. If jail time is included, so be it.

I'm not sure the NDA they sign is that legally binding though. Couldn't you just claim you didn't agree to it?

[Elhanan]

Skelter192 wrote...

This is worse than the actual video.

Still have not seen it, but expected no less from one such as yourself. Have fun badmouthing your next MMO....

[Elhanan]

legion999 wrote...

I'm not sure the NDA they sign is that legally binding though. Couldn't you just claim you didn't agree to it?

Possibly, but if it is binding, these liars may jeopardize using any future Bethesda related products (ie; the banner name that all fall under in business), penalties, etc. Plus, they sold their word for 20 min of infamy; mine is personally valued more, I hope.

[blaidfiste]

legion999 wrote...

Elhanan wrote...

legion999 wrote...

Jailtime? Are you serious?

Yes, but this is simply an expression. My desire is that the ones that broke the agreement receive the full weight of penalties such a pledge allows. If jail time is included, so be it.

I'm not sure the NDA they sign is that legally binding though. Couldn't you just claim you didn't agree to it?

You have to agree to the NDA before installing the beta client.  It won't install otherwise.  Worst case scenario the leaker loses beta access.

[Morroian]

blaidfiste wrote...

Skelter192 wrote...

blaidfiste wrote...

Skelter192 wrote...

So someone leaked gameplay of the beta test...yup.

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Uploaded elsewhere.

Removed from there as well [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/bandit.png[/smilie]

Found it here

Gone from there as well

[blaidfiste]

Morroian wrote...

blaidfiste wrote...

Skelter192 wrote...

blaidfiste wrote...

Skelter192 wrote...

So someone leaked gameplay of the beta test...yup.

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Uploaded elsewhere.

Removed from there as well [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/bandit.png[/smilie]

Found it here

Gone from there as well

Took them long enough, found another

[Morroian]

Um thats a Rick Astley video, thanks for subjecting me to that.

[Morroian]

LTD wrote...

I didn't even mind visuals. What depressed me was the this very strong impression I can imagine exactly how the game plays and what it feels like to play it.
...Answer to both being JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER UNIMAGINATIIVE MMO/LOW-EFFORT ACTION RPG OUT THERE.

TOS games really should be designed with 1st person in mind, 1st and foremost. It'd bring pretty exiting tactical elements to PvP combat and stuff.

Tactical elements with a more restricted view? Melee combat pretty much requires 3rd person with action combat. In terms of combat the game appears to combine elements of TES combat with games like Guild Wars 2 which is not exactly generic at this point. And its taking combat a step further than GW2 did with active blocking and far more of a deck building aspect than GW2 managed. Plus the ability to equip any armor or any weapon on any class again is not exactly generic in an mmo. 

Then there's the RvR PvP, which is looking better than GW2 and may be the best implementation of it since Dark Age of Camelot.

[blaidfiste]

Morroian wrote...

Um thats a Rick Astley video, thanks for subjecting me to that.

Go ahead, ruin my trap   But seriously there was nothing new in that leaked footage.  You can get a good sense of how the game plays by looking at the official videos.

[Chromie]

Morroian wrote...

LTD wrote...

I didn't even mind visuals. What depressed me was the this very strong impression I can imagine exactly how the game plays and what it feels like to play it.
...Answer to both being JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER UNIMAGINATIIVE MMO/LOW-EFFORT ACTION RPG OUT THERE.

TOS games really should be designed with 1st person in mind, 1st and foremost. It'd bring pretty exiting tactical elements to PvP combat and stuff.

Tactical elements with a more restricted view? Melee combat pretty much requires 3rd person with action combat. In terms of combat the game appears to combine elements of TES combat with games like Guild Wars 2 which is not exactly generic at this point. And its taking combat a step further than GW2 did with active blocking and far more of a deck building aspect than GW2 managed. Plus the ability to equip any armor or any weapon on any class again is not exactly generic in an mmo. 

Then there's the RvR PvP, which is looking better than GW2 and may be the best implementation of it since Dark Age of Camelot.

I'll also add there WILL BE a proper first person mode with animated hands and all. It's just not implemented yet.

[LTD]

Much like Morroian implied, if game is mostly designed with over-the-shoulder balloon camera in mind, 1st person is inevitably much worse and less competitive option in any and all ways. You don't want to do anything with it, you inevitably have harder time seeing enemies and suches. In this environment, 1st person is mostly about taking screenshots and enjoying atmospherics.

It'd be awesome to have an MMO where 1st person view is an actual game element. It'd enable better use of terrain for cover and so forth. Imagine environment where, for once stealth means you literally sneak behind someone using LOS, terrain and suches rather than some infinitely lame "turn invisible!" gimp talent. Seeing less could be more. In 3rd person, you always see everything. Specially if you play a ranged class. It's just too easy and fast to pan camera wildly about both axis.

Modifié par LTD, 16 avril 2013 - 06:49 .

[Morroian]

FWIW someone gave me some verbal feedback on the beta today that then game is fantastic and that the video is clearly a misrepresentation of it.

[LTD]

Some more leaked footage.
http://www.betacake....w-leaked-video/

It is very difficult to feel in any way exited about this game. Hating how combat looks. Who knows, might be best things since sliced bread with hands-on. Pretty sure I skip this one though, yeah.

[Chromie]

I'm going to give it a try before I judge it too harshly. Still it does worry me what I've seen.

[Morroian]

LTD wrote...

Some more leaked footage.
http://www.betacake....w-leaked-video/

It is very difficult to feel in any way exited about this game. Hating how combat looks. Who knows, might be best things since sliced bread with hands-on. Pretty sure I skip this one though, yeah.

Why would you rely on a couple of leaked videos where you have no idea about the the quality control? That video doesn't look that much different to low level gameplay in other mmos. The guy who leaked the first clearly wanted to try and discredit the game.

What sort of combat do you like?

[Jaison1986]

New gameplay video: www.youtube.com/watch
It looks, kind of good actually. But god, the animations look extremely awkward. And for last, oh no, I will not accept the lockpick system from Oblivion again, just... no.

Modifié par Jaison1986, 18 mai 2013 - 12:54 .

[Joy Divison]

Jaison1986 wrote...

New gameplay video: www.youtube.com/watch
It looks, kind of good actually. But god, the animations look extremely awkward. And for last, oh no, I will not accept the lockpick system from Oblivion again, just... no.

Words cannot express the level of hate I had for the Oblivion lockpick system.

[Volus Warlord]

Joy Divison wrote...

Jaison1986 wrote...

New gameplay video: www.youtube.com/watch
It looks, kind of good actually. But god, the animations look extremely awkward. And for last, oh no, I will not accept the lockpick system from Oblivion again, just... no.

Words cannot express the level of hate I had for the Oblivion lockpick system.

OH NO! YOU BROKE A PICK! START THE HELL OVER!

It actually wouldn't have been that bad, except you couldn't find picks ANYWHERE unless you were Thieves Guild or Dark Brotherhood. You found one pick in a loot chest! That'll get you a full 10 seconds! So then in, Skyrim everybody sells them. Lol. But you do loose the lockpick spells. I loved those.

[Joy Divison]

Volus Warlord wrote...

Joy Divison wrote...

Jaison1986 wrote...

New gameplay video: www.youtube.com/watch
It looks, kind of good actually. But god, the animations look extremely awkward. And for last, oh no, I will not accept the lockpick system from Oblivion again, just... no.

Words cannot express the level of hate I had for the Oblivion lockpick system.

OH NO! YOU BROKE A PICK! START THE HELL OVER!

It actually wouldn't have been that bad, except you couldn't find picks ANYWHERE unless you were Thieves Guild or Dark Brotherhood. You found one pick in a loot chest! That'll get you a full 10 seconds! So then in, Skyrim everybody sells them. Lol. But you do loose the lockpick spells. I loved those.

More like: "Oh No!  I listened to too much heavy metal music and i can't hear the *ping*.  Now I've got to start the hell over!"

Modifié par Joy Divison, 18 mai 2013 - 07:45 .

[Volus Warlord]

Skelter192 wrote...

I'm going to give it a try before I judge it too harshly. Still it does worry me what I've seen.

I think it'll be better than TOR...

Modifié par Volus Warlord, 19 mai 2013 - 12:46 .

[Enigmatick]

Volus Warlord wrote...

Skelter192 wrote...

I'm going to give it a try before I judge it too harshly. Still it does worry me what I've seen.

I think it'll be better than KOTOR...

I think you mean SWTOR and since it isn't sacrificing everything that makes it intresting just to be a MMO you are probably right. Still gonna **** the lore over though

[Chromie]

Volus Warlord wrote...

Skelter192 wrote...

I'm going to give it a try before I judge it too harshly. Still it does worry me what I've seen.

I think it'll be better than TOR...

My **** is better than TOR.

[Roflbox]

 Some first person action in this interview. Looks pretty unlike Skyimr.

[BouncyFrag]

"Completing A Daedric Quest" from IGN with commentary. Its looking worlds better than earlier footage.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=0c6IsgR5VlY

[Chromie]

BouncyFrag wrote...

"Completing A Daedric Quest" from IGN with commentary. Its looking worlds better than earlier footage.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=0c6IsgR5VlY

Looks better than Skyrim.