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[slashthedragon]

With all the romance talk around the board, I was just curious:
In fanfiction, what are some of your favorite pairings? <3

[sylvanaerie]

well my fanfiction features Teagan/Surana and most of my stories focus on those two. However, I like to read M!Hawke/Merrill, Alistair/Cousland also.
With one proviso.  I tend to ignore any 'Alistair + warden repopulating Ferelden with their anti-lore progeny'. 

Modifié par sylvanaerie, 04 mai 2012 - 12:15 .

[Knight of Dane]

Cousland - Anora through Royal marriage is one of my favorites.

I also enjoy stories with Bethany.

[LolaLei]

Cullen/Amell prior to her Warden days.

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

I want to see a Mass Effect and Star Trek Fan Fic. Are there any of those?

[brushyourteeth]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

I want to see a Mass Effect and Star Trek Fan Fic. Are there any of those?

I'm sure there are hundreds of the first and thousands of the second! try fanfiction.net to start.

[slashthedragon]

brushyourteeth wrote...

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

I want to see a Mass Effect and Star Trek Fan Fic. Are there any of those?

I'm sure there are hundreds of the first and thousands of the second! try fanfiction.net to start.

Also archiveofourown.com  a lot of quality work there.

[slashthedragon]

sylvanaerie wrote...
With one proviso.  I tend to ignore any 'Alistair + warden repopulating Ferelden with their anti-lore progeny'. 

hahaha do those exist?  omg...

[Ghost_Nappa]

mayrabgood wrote...

I would love to see a paring of Dragon Age 2 with The Witcher 2.

My Hawke would definitely fall for that sexy elf Iorveth. How I wish I could play as a female instead of Geralt in the Witcher and be able to romance Iorveth

Never played the game, but I whole hearteningly approve of that scared masked bandito of sexy....now if only we coud add Fenris into that bed for Lady Hawke's pleasure.

[sylvanaerie]

slashthedragon wrote...

sylvanaerie wrote...
With one proviso.  I tend to ignore any 'Alistair + warden repopulating Ferelden with their anti-lore progeny'. 

hahaha do those exist?  omg...

Yes, I have seen a few on FF.Net and avoid that crap like the Blight.  My pet peeves with fics written by fans is 1) Out of character--a lot fall into this category--add to this impossibly illogical characterizations (I actually read some of a very popular story someone recommended to me on the boards here before the utter stupidity of it nauseated me to the point of no return).  2) Mary Sue protagonists I just wanna strangle instead of sympathize with.  3) Anti-lore wish fulfillment storylines.

I've read some really good stories on FF.Net, but I've also read/skimmed over some really bad ones.

For some reason I don't mind them as much as long as the Author says "I realize this goes against lore, but I wanted to do this..." better than someone just assuming that Avernus is going to be working night and day for a way the Warden to be free of the taint (nothing about his research said ANYthing about removing the taint, only studying how it can be used), or how she can get knocked up by (any of several warden male characters author is fixated on romancing) without any explanation at all how 1000 years of lore can just be ignored.

Modifié par sylvanaerie, 05 mai 2012 - 02:54 .

[Ghost_Nappa]

sylvanaerie wrote...

slashthedragon wrote...

sylvanaerie wrote...
With one proviso.  I tend to ignore any 'Alistair + warden repopulating Ferelden with their anti-lore progeny'. 

hahaha do those exist?  omg...

Yes, I have seen a few on FF.Net and avoid that crap like the Blight.  My pet peeves with fics written by fans is 1) Out of character--a lot fall into this category--add to this impossibly illogical characterizations (I actually read some of a very popular story someone recommended to me on the boards here before the utter stupidity of it nauseated me to the point of no return).  2) Mary Sue protagonists I just wanna strangle instead of sympathize with.  3) Anti-lore wish fulfillment storylines.

I've read some really good stories on FF.Net, but I've also read/skimmed over some really bad ones.

For some reason I don't mind them as much as long as the Author says "I realize this goes against lore, but I wanted to do this..." better than someone just assuming that Avernus is going to be working night and day for a way the Warden to be free of the taint (nothing about his research said ANYthing about removing the taint, only studying how it can be used), or how she can get knocked up by (any of several warden male characters author is fixated on romancing) without any explanation at all how 1000 years of lore can just be ignored.

Oh dear lord thank you! I couldn't of summed it up any better...but sadly when my mind goes into female warden being preganant I automatically assume she's becoming a broodmother speeding up their calling.

I mean male wardens, at best, might turn into Larius just being a hobbled ghoul. Female wardens are gonna either end up a broodmother or, hopefully like Utha...all silent creepy and axe happy. Something that can only be solved with a fireball or arrow to the brain.

[caradoc2000]

mayrabgood wrote...

How I wish I could play as a female instead of Geralt in the Witcher

Geraldine?

[sylvanaerie]

Ghost_Nappa wrote...

sylvanaerie wrote...

slashthedragon wrote...

sylvanaerie wrote...
With one proviso.  I tend to ignore any 'Alistair + warden repopulating Ferelden with their anti-lore progeny'. 

hahaha do those exist?  omg...

Yes, I have seen a few on FF.Net and avoid that crap like the Blight.  My pet peeves with fics written by fans is 1) Out of character--a lot fall into this category--add to this impossibly illogical characterizations (I actually read some of a very popular story someone recommended to me on the boards here before the utter stupidity of it nauseated me to the point of no return).  2) Mary Sue protagonists I just wanna strangle instead of sympathize with.  3) Anti-lore wish fulfillment storylines.

I've read some really good stories on FF.Net, but I've also read/skimmed over some really bad ones.

For some reason I don't mind them as much as long as the Author says "I realize this goes against lore, but I wanted to do this..." better than someone just assuming that Avernus is going to be working night and day for a way the Warden to be free of the taint (nothing about his research said ANYthing about removing the taint, only studying how it can be used), or how she can get knocked up by (any of several warden male characters author is fixated on romancing) without any explanation at all how 1000 years of lore can just be ignored.

Oh dear lord thank you! I couldn't of summed it up any better...but sadly when my mind goes into female warden being preganant I automatically assume she's becoming a broodmother speeding up their calling.

I mean male wardens, at best, might turn into Larius just being a hobbled ghoul. Female wardens are gonna either end up a broodmother or, hopefully like Utha...all silent creepy and axe happy. Something that can only be solved with a fireball or arrow to the brain.

I actually had my Surana become pregnant in my "universe", but the father wasn't tainted.  Such unions can produce progeny (Fiona/Maric's son is proof of this, just not that often) and it took 6 years for it to happen.  I wasn't even going to make her have children till the idea for the sequel came to me and I felt it would add to the conflict in the story.  

Modifié par sylvanaerie, 05 mai 2012 - 04:00 .

[Dwarva]

sylvanaerie wrote...

Yes, I have seen a few on FF.Net and avoid that crap like the Blight.  My pet peeves with fics written by fans is 1) Out of character--a lot fall into this category--add to this impossibly illogical characterizations (I actually read some of a very popular story someone recommended to me on the boards here before the utter stupidity of it nauseated me to the point of no return).  2) Mary Sue protagonists I just wanna strangle instead of sympathize with.  3) Anti-lore wish fulfillment storylines.

Yep. Ditto to all that.

Personally my biggest pet peeve though is OCs...I can understand the desire to do them but it just doesn't connect with me at all to introduce a brand new character. Not a fan...

[sylvanaerie]

Staarbux wrote...

sylvanaerie wrote...

Yes, I have seen a few on FF.Net and avoid that crap like the Blight.  My pet peeves with fics written by fans is 1) Out of character--a lot fall into this category--add to this impossibly illogical characterizations (I actually read some of a very popular story someone recommended to me on the boards here before the utter stupidity of it nauseated me to the point of no return).  2) Mary Sue protagonists I just wanna strangle instead of sympathize with.  3) Anti-lore wish fulfillment storylines.

Yep. Ditto to all that.

Personally my biggest pet peeve though is OCs...I can understand the desire to do them but it just doesn't connect with me at all to introduce a brand new character. Not a fan...

OC's I am cautious about.  Most fall into the category of #2 on my list (Mary sues), but if well done and the protagonist from the game/movie is in character in their reactions to this person and their situations, then it can be enjoyable.  Cadsuane and I co-wrote a drunken Alistair fic (A Place to Call Home) that has him getting clean and sober and meeting someone new and developing feelings for her.

And technically, any story with the Warden (or Hawke) in it, is about an OC since those vary in personality/looks from player to player.

Modifié par sylvanaerie, 05 mai 2012 - 08:18 .

[Dwarva]

And technically, any story with the Warden (or Hawke) in it, is about an OC since those vary in personality/looks from player to player.

Hmm I disagree. Hawke and the Warden both have established backgrounds and relationships with people. Sure the dialogue will reflect their personality but with an idea of who they are anyway (Mage Hawke, Cousland etc) you have an image in your head already. OCs just seem like a bit of 'author service' where they tend to write them for themselves more than others IMHO.

[Ghost_Nappa]

sylvanaerie wrote...


I actually had my Surana become pregnant in my "universe", but the father wasn't tainted.  Such unions can produce progeny (Fiona/Maric's son is proof of this, just not that often) and it took 6 years for it to happen.  I wasn't even going to make her have children till the idea for the sequel came to me and I felt it would add to the conflict in the story.  

Are you serious? WEll this is what I get for not reading the novels...but I have seperate issues with their timeline and if its cannon to connect with the game, so thats another can of worms.

However having a non tainted father, stacked with the low fertility rate...seems plausible. Plus depending on how you set it up.....oh my, hamster brain is running on the wheel now.

[slashthedragon]

Staarbux wrote...

And technically, any story with the Warden (or Hawke) in it, is about an OC since those vary in personality/looks from player to player.

Hmm I disagree. Hawke and the Warden both have established backgrounds and relationships with people. Sure the dialogue will reflect their personality but with an idea of who they are anyway (Mage Hawke, Cousland etc) you have an image in your head already. OCs just seem like a bit of 'author service' where they tend to write them for themselves more than others IMHO.

Also a bit wary about OCs, but I have read a few that were used well. 
archiveofourown.com has EXCELLENT fic.  ff.net is a little more hit and miss.

[sylvanaerie]

There is too much leeway. Background of Hawke/Warden isn't too important to their overall story. (Warden's family dies/is taken from the circle/deep roads/their clan/the alienage within the first 30 minutes of playing and nothing is said for the rest of the game about them till the end when you see one character from the origin story there to clap them on the back and say "Good job"). IN fact, the Warden is reminded repeatedly throughout the game how they are now cut off from their old life. Hawke loses his/her family by the middle of Act 2. One sibling dies in the first ten minutes of play, the second is lost to the Circle/Deep Roads death or Grey Wardens at the end of act 1 and mom dies mid Act 2. And Gamlen doesn't count.

Whatever personality warden/Hawke gets is entirely the player's/author's doing. They can run the gamut from insane psychopath, ambitious backstabber, humorous jokester, boy scout, gentle healer, vicious assassin to dozens of other personalities. What we see in "background" is just trappings. They don't have an established characterization beyond "Nobleman" or "Mage" or "Apostate". That isn't a characterization, that's just a classification, leaving it open to a vast array of interpretations. Though as a character, they are certainly more in keeping with the milieu and more relatable to the reader familiar with the world in which the story takes place.

Aside from the origin (which isn't much of an impact on the Warden, and only slightly more so on Hawke who loses his/her family by the middle of act 2 anyway), their background has minimal impact on the story. To some extent making the PC an OC. Slightly more relatable than an OC (who is tossed in completely out of the blue, and usually poorly implemented), but if the author is too lazy to give established PC's a relatable personality, no amount of background is going to salvage that character.

But i see your point of view about throwing new people (ie Author insert/Mary Sue) into the mix. I just have more of an issue with how the established characters (like Alistair, Varric etc) react to the new character before I would take issue with the author's interpretation. (Which falls under 2 of my pet peeves OOCness and Mary Sue Protagonist--OC or not).

Just saying, OC's don't have to be awful and to some extent even the Warden/Hawke is an "OC" since they have no established personality/characterization outside of the trappings of "This is the youngest son of Teryn Cousland" "Or her father is an apostate mage" (etc). Backgrounds are just filler, allowing us to somewhat connect with the Cousland/Hawke/Surana etc, but I find that isn't enough to save a truly atrocious fic if there is no attention given to characterization of the Warden/Hawke.

I've seen an OC done believably and I've seen established characters done atrociously.

[MrsMime]

F!Hawke/Isabela. Hands down.

Came across an extremely NSFW F!Hawke/Bethany fanfic the other day, though..very, well, interesting.

[coldwetn0se]

I really don't have a problem with "Wish Fulfillment" FF, if the lore (assuming it's not TRUE AU) is still being heeded. Granted, I understand that wish fulfillment does mean you are altering some aspect of canon, but I have read some really well done stories that changed one aspect, but changed it into something that the original writers (of said movie/video game/ect...) could have easily done with current lore.

In fact, this kind of fanfiction can be very helpful, when I have disliked something in the original piece, that could have been done differently. Granted, not my place to decide how someone else should write their stories/characters, but I am also not obliged to like everything about them.

Back to topic: in the DA world, my favorite pairings are:
F!Hawke/Fenris
Alistair/Warden
Zevran/Warden
and my newest kink: Zevran/Alistair......not everyones cup of tea, but I love their personalities, and have found a few really good stories with them (granted, these are a bit on the smutty side....)

The majority of these are NOT smut, but I still enjoy smut well enough...<cheeky grin>

[slashthedragon]

coldwetn0se wrote...

The majority of these are NOT smut, but I still enjoy smut well enough...<cheeky grin>

Well written 'smut' is always my guilty pleasure!  I tend to like m/m and f/f though, not so big on m.f for some reason.

[coldwetn0se]

slashthedragon wrote...

coldwetn0se wrote...

The majority of these are NOT smut, but I still enjoy smut well enough...<cheeky grin>

Well written 'smut' is always my guilty pleasure!  I tend to like m/m and f/f though, not so big on m.f for some reason.

Well written smut IS the best.  I actually like both f/m and s/s.  Some characters I just like better in one or the other type of pairing.  I have read some very fine Fenris/M!Hawke that I enjoyed, but I admit to liking f!Hawke/Fenris pairing better.  However, I like Anders more with a m!Hawke....go figure.

[slashthedragon]

coldwetn0se wrote...
Well written smut IS the best.  I actually like both f/m and s/s.  Some characters I just like better in one or the other type of pairing.  I have read some very fine Fenris/M!Hawke that I enjoyed, but I admit to liking f!Hawke/Fenris pairing better.  However, I like Anders more with a m!Hawke....go figure.

It's funny, a lot of DA fan fic I have been reading is actually more well written than many *published* books I have read (was an English major).
I like knowing people's fave pairings, sometimes you get some really rare ones that you make you go -- yea, I can see that, would love to read it.
My fave pairing is obvious via my signature, lol.