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[xbb1024]

Does anyone else think having a romance on a military ship, with a crewmate, a bit unprofessional? Is this some cultural thing?

[Gotthammer666]

Unprofessional, perhaps (Shep is CO, at least over Kaidan and Ash in 1). Unrealistic, not by a long shot.
Especially in ME2 when Shep is paramilitary on a technically civilians vessel. Even in 1 Shepard is operating as a Spectre rather than an Alliance officer, so it's even greyer. Of course it is possibly a bad thing to romance a subordinate in any situation, but aside from the aforementioned Kaidan/Ash situation I don't think any of the relationships would cross any official lines.

And relationships aboard ships happen all the time in the real wide-ranging in some ways it would be weirder if people on the Normandy weren't hooking up.

[utaker1988]

I guess it could be seen as unprofessional among other things depending on the military's code. This is why my FemShep waited until ME2 and Thane, to have that romance. The SR-2 was a civilian vehicle. Not like she would have cared anyway, her morality is a bit skewed.

[CptData]

xbb1024 wrote...

Does anyone else think having a romance on a military ship, with a crewmate, a bit unprofessional? Is this some cultural thing?

It becomes unprofessional if that romance is affecting the way how you treat that crewmate while on duty.

And yeah, guess it's a cultural thing AND it does matter if you're open minded or not. In my Nation it IS considered to be unprofessional - it's forbidden in the direct chain of command.

[YourFunnyUncle]

I think that in most militaries it is considered unprofessional, especially between a commander and subordinates. That doesn't mean that it never happens though.

[Wulfram]

In real life, yeah, it would be a pretty bad idea. But, hey, it's a game.

[YourFunnyUncle]

Another thing to consider is that Shepard's a Spectre in ME1 and ME3 which I suspect grants him/her considerable leeway. In 2 it's not a military ship, anyway.

[Skullheart]

The Normandy is a love boat, not a military ship-

[Nenya Higurashi]

I.. think Shepard lives on the Normandy, now, more or less... and with the pressure of the reapers and everyhing... you know, it happens to be a little unprofessional sometimes.

Not like I really mind, my f!sheps are generally single and happy that way *shrugs*

I wouldn't mind romances between crew members, thought, that's why I appreciated the whole 'gabbylove' and 'talilove' things in the middle.

[draken-heart]

yeah, i think the fact that it is Shepard, male or female, the commander may be aloud to get away w/romancing a squadmate or crew member.

[Dessalines]

I doubt that they are using the UCMJ to conduct military affairs. I am sure they have their own regulation,, because Shephard was going to face court martial,

[OchreJelly]

Not that your point isn't understandable to a degree, but you're 3 games too late. \\o/

Besides, Shep is a Spectre, they can do what they want.

[Omega Torsk]

Dude, it's a sci-fi RPG! 

[khardrueth]

Yes it probably is unprofessional to have a romance with personnel under your direct command....but then it's up to the player how 'professional' their Shep is after all. You could choose to keep things totally professional with Kaidan/Ash fairly early on in ME1.

In ME3 the VS becomes a Spectre so not sure if there are rules regarding fraternisation there or not, and again you can keep it professional with Traynor or STEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEVE.

The other LIs aren't Alliance personnel are they, or at best they'd be civillian contractors.

And even if it is unprofessional and against military regulations whichever nation you hail from, I'm sure as hell it happens irl regardless.

[Daennikus]

I'm surprised that no one else among the crew is hitting on Liara, or at least hoping to get some of that at some point. Starting a romance with her should trigger jealousy/resentment feelings all around for the sake of realism.

Romance in the workplace is generally looked down upon, so I imagine it's even more difficult to handle in the military.

[_FLANDERS]

Rules Have gone out the door this is not now this is in another time vwhere things are knot what they are now, it is ok ,

[PorcelynDoll]

It's a game, not real life. You have free will and choice. If you don't like it don't engage in it or romance non alliance companions.

[xbb1024]

PorcelynDoll wrote...

It's a game, not real life. You have free will and choice. If you don't like it don't engage in it or romance non alliance companions.

I still did it, and with Traynor. I just thought it would be unbecoming of Shepard to do it (like any crewmate should be a renegade action).

[Zombie Chow]

I just realised, didn't Joker actually comment on this? I think he mentioned looking up in the Alliance Regulations Handbook whether or not dating an Alliance AI was allowed, then stated it's never mentioned. 'Course, it was a joke, because I think AI's were supposed to be outlawed in general.

It does suggest "fraternising with fellow soldiers" is a bit of a faux pas, even in ME, which was why Joker made a defensive joke about it. But I agree, it's one of those things that happen all the time and people turn a blind eye to it.

[Quething]

It's terribly unprofessional, but that's part of why I like it. Main!Shep is diehard crazy Alliance and would no more break regs than Chakwas would shoot a patient. So she never has to actually say "I love you" because the very fact that she's actually engaging in this relationship with a subordinate at all speaks not just volumes, but whole libraries about just how hopelessly head over heels she is.

[Saodade]

xbb1024 wrote...

Does anyone else think having a romance on a military ship, with a crewmate, a bit unprofessional? Is this some cultural thing?

Do you ask in game or IRL?
µIn game it have been clearly explained that:

1- on alliance human  army the fraternization is  against the rules (they do it  still but  hidden and sneaky way and it must not interfere with the  commanding  chain and obedience required from soldiers.

2- on turian army there are no rules against it and they even encourage  the steam blowing activities as sparring  on ring or bed.

3- other races  I don't think it is  forbidden since I don't remember any  mention about this.

The  fraternization rules are just some remnant of old  from the human history and  as so  it is a human only thing. 

Now  for IRL I suppose if you serve on a  ship they not allow fraternization to  try to avoid:

a- fights between people   for the  same bed/ love interest
b- pregnants soldiers  busy puking  all over  instead of aiming the ennemy (lol  it is a joke here)
c- sexualy transmissibles  affections plaguing the whole ship
d- random births around the ship at any time
e- having to use  one cabin  to  babysit the  crew offsprings on long time missions and the possible stress to  manage if the  ship get drowned ot exploded  with all her  content...

well   and mainly cause when you are serving you are supposed to be 100% present and ready  for any situation.
But I'm sure  that  there is still sneaky steamblowing in random hidden corners since no  normal  young and healthy humans  could   stay away from natural needs, specialy when there is  all what is needed to release around .

Modifié par Saodade, 05 mai 2012 - 11:44 .

[Maugrim]

And we all know that people in the military never break regs, especially when it comes to matters of the heart or just plain old fashioned lust.

It's like my basketball coach used to say, 'It's only illegal if the ref sees it"

Modifié par makenzieshepard, 05 mai 2012 - 01:19 .

[bleetman]

Good thing Liara, Garrus, Tali, Thane, Jack, Miranda, Jacob, Traynor and Kelly weren't Alliance military. Heck, most of them weren't any military.

[Theta Thetis]

And the two human LIs are Spectres, so it's probable that regulations for Specters are different. They're also the same rank as Shep by the third game. The other major LIs, save Garrus, aren't affiliated with their respective race's militaries.

[Applepie_Svk]

Nom nom nom :
1. You are COMANDER... COMANDER... COMANDER ....

2. Alteast one of your LI crewmembers is from differend specie, which isn´t under Aliance Command

3. You don´t need to start LI if you don´t want:)