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[Drake_Hound]

@ CRUDER stfu , gee stop making garbage post , cut out my quotes , and you got yourself disagreeing with yourself moron .

Modern day idiots , can't even solve a jigsaw puzzle ....

Grimwick , i know what you mean , like said I like TB , but this is a case you need to play ME3 to understand , he should play it !

Cause then he knows how F up that total project was .
The ending matters , this is not like DA2 , that is why TB should game something that shows us old guards are moving on .

[tobiasks]

I wouldn't really call TB some random unknown person. Anyway he is actually a quite awesome person, I am especially glad for everything he is doing for SC2.

[Falkenburg]

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

Who is totalbiscuit and why should I care?

Who is Roger Ebert and why should I care?

Who is Michio Kaku and why should I care?

Ad infinitum.

If you don't think BioWare cares about their product being denigrated by minor internet celebrities, then you haven't realized that Mass Effect isn't primarily a game, it's a Property.

The more the property is tarnished, the less valuable it is. If Mass Effect becomes, say, internet slang for a screw up at the last possible moment, do you think the property will continue to be supported?

Put another way: what do you think BW cares more about, 100 well reasoned forum threads, or a single joke about ME on, say, the Big Bang Theory?

Modifié par Falkenburg, 04 mai 2012 - 05:24 .

[AlanC9]

xsdob wrote...

wow what a shocker the guy who didn't like bioware for the from ashes dlc and said he'd be done with them didn't like mass effect 3 I am so surprised and genuinely shocked/ sarcasm.

I was just about to ask who the hell TotalBiscuit is and why anyone cares. Thanks.

[Cruders]

Drake_Hound wrote...

@ CRUDER stfu , gee stop making garbage post , cut out my quotes , and you got yourself disagreeing with yourself moron .

Modern day idiots , can't even solve a jigsaw puzzle ....

Grimwick , i know what you mean , like said I like TB , but this is a case you need to play ME3 to understand , he should play it !

Cause then he knows how F up that total project was .
The ending matters , this is not like DA2 , that is why TB should game something that shows us old guards are moving on .

How will Grimwick playing ME3 change how he felt about the endings? 
  shows the "different" endings.

Honestly, based on the fact that he played ME1/2 and has seen the endings, I think that if Grimwick played me3 he/she will only become more dissatisfied with it.

Modifié par Cruders, 04 mai 2012 - 05:28 .

[Atakuma]

Falkenburg wrote...

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

Who is totalbiscuit and why should I care?

Who is Roger Ebert and why should I care?

Who is Michio Kaku and why should I care?

Ad infinitum.

If you don't think BioWare cares about their product being denigrated by minor internet celebrities, then you haven't realized that Mass Effect isn't primarily a game, it's a Property.

The more the property is tarnished, the less valuable it is. If Mass Effect becomes, say, internet slang for a screw up at the last possible moment, do you think the property will continue to be supported?

Put another way: what do you think BW cares more about, 100 well reasoned forum threads, or a single joke about ME on, say, the Big Bang Theory?

You cannot be serious. Roger Ebert and Michio Kaku are several orders of magnetude more reputable than some attention **** whining about video games on youtube. And as to your last question, Bioware would care much more about the 100 well reasoned forum threads, because they aren't morons.

[Cruders]

Atakuma wrote...

Falkenburg wrote...

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

Who is totalbiscuit and why should I care?

Who is Roger Ebert and why should I care?

Who is Michio Kaku and why should I care?

Ad infinitum.

If you don't think BioWare cares about their product being denigrated by minor internet celebrities, then you haven't realized that Mass Effect isn't primarily a game, it's a Property.

The more the property is tarnished, the less valuable it is. If Mass Effect becomes, say, internet slang for a screw up at the last possible moment, do you think the property will continue to be supported?

Put another way: what do you think BW cares more about, 100 well reasoned forum threads, or a single joke about ME on, say, the Big Bang Theory?

You cannot be serious. Roger Ebert and Michio Kaku are several orders of magnetude more reputable than some attention **** whining about video games on youtube. And as to your last question, Bioware would care much more about the 100 well reasoned forum threads, because they aren't morons.

You forget the magnitude difference in audience with 100 forum topics vs BBT joke which would only increase the attention to the issue. Plus you forget that Bioware is a part of EA and more people watch BBT than read bioware forums.

On a side, the BBB has already said that Bioware/EA is guilty of false advertising, which is really bad publicity, especially when Bioware has a F rating with the bbb and EA a B-. At least 23 new complaints out of 72 (last I checked) have been filed against bioware since the launch of ME3.

Modifié par Cruders, 04 mai 2012 - 05:33 .

[Deathstroke123]

Falkenburg wrote...

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

Who is totalbiscuit and why should I care?

Who is Roger Ebert and why should I care?

Who is Michio Kaku and why should I care?

Ad infinitum.

If you don't think BioWare cares about their product being denigrated by minor internet celebrities, then you haven't realized that Mass Effect isn't primarily a game, it's a Property.

The more the property is tarnished, the less valuable it is. If Mass Effect becomes, say, internet slang for a screw up at the last possible moment, do you think the property will continue to be supported?

Put another way: what do you think BW cares more about, 100 well reasoned forum threads, or a single joke about ME on, say, the Big Bang Theory?

Totalbiscuit is not nearly as reputable as Roger Ebert or Michio Kaku. Not even close.

And I can guarentee that if he disagreed with you on the ending and liked it, you'd be singing a different tune.

[Father_Jerusalem]

Falkenburg wrote...

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

Who is totalbiscuit and why should I care?

Who is Roger Ebert and why should I care?

Who is Michio Kaku and why should I care?

Ad infinitum.

If you don't think BioWare cares about their product being denigrated by minor internet celebrities, then you haven't realized that Mass Effect isn't primarily a game, it's a Property.

The more the property is tarnished, the less valuable it is. If Mass Effect becomes, say, internet slang for a screw up at the last possible moment, do you think the property will continue to be supported?

Put another way: what do you think BW cares more about, 100 well reasoned forum threads, or a single joke about ME on, say, the Big Bang Theory?

First off, comparing this Totalbiscuit guy to Roger Ebert is complete and utter insanity. One posts whiney videos to YouTube, one has had his reviews featured in hundreds of newspapers and magazines and hosted a television show for over twenty years. If your goal was to make the most ridiculous comparison imaginable, then, I guess, congratulations? Not to mention, comparing his YouTube channel to The Big Bang Theory. Honestly.

[TieRantaSaurusWrex]

No. They'd care about the joke lol duh.

[Father_Jerusalem]

Cruders wrote...


You forget the magnitude difference in audiance with 100 forum topics vs BBT joke which would only increase the attention to the issue. Plus you forget that Bioware is a part of EA and more people watch BBT than read bioware forums.

On a side, the BBB has already said that Bioware/EA is guilty of false advertising, which is really bad publicity, especially when Bioware has a F rating with the bbb and EA a B-. At least 23 new complaints out of 72 (last I checked) have been filed against bioware since the launch of ME3.

On another side note, that was one blogger from the BBB saying it, not the BBB. And neither EA nor BioWare pays to be rated by the BBB, so that's why their ratings are "bad". This has been discussed ad nauseum.

[Drake_Hound]

@ cruder are you really stupid you can't even find which post to cut up ?

Sorry says enough of your arguments and logic , if a person can't even remember his own opnion.
Dump and learn , so go learn again .

It is nice to have a opnion , but if you can't even remember your own opnion !
Why bother to post ?

[xsdob]

Falkenburg wrote...

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

Who is totalbiscuit and why should I care?

Who is Roger Ebert and why should I care?

Who is Michio Kaku and why should I care?

Ad infinitum.

If
you don't think BioWare cares about their product being denigrated by
minor internet celebrities, then you haven't realized that Mass Effect
isn't primarily a game, it's a Property.

The more the
property is tarnished, the less valuable it is. If Mass Effect becomes,
say, internet slang for a screw up at the last possible moment, do you
think the property will continue to be supported?

Put another
way: what do you think BW cares more about, 100 well reasoned forum
threads, or a single joke about ME on, say, the Big Bang Theory?

Doug walker, James Rolfe, Noah Antwiler, Lewis Lovhaug, Ed Glasser, Brad Jones, Joe Vargas and Tobuscus are more worthy of name recognition that totalbiscuit is.

Modifié par xsdob, 04 mai 2012 - 05:41 .

[Atakuma]

Cruders wrote...
You forget the magnitude difference in audience with 100 forum topics vs BBT joke which would only increase the attention to the issue. Plus you forget that Bioware is a part of EA and more people watch BBT than read bioware forums.

The issue has already got plenty of attention even from non gaming outlets. A joke on a crappy sitcom isn't going to have much of an effect if any.

On a side, the BBB has already said that Bioware/EA is guilty of false advertising, which is really bad publicity, especially when Bioware has a F rating with the bbb and EA a B-. At least 23 new complaints out of 72 (last I checked) have been filed against bioware since the launch of ME3.

The BBB has made no official statement at all, it was just an opinion peice by someone who works there. And The F rating is because Bioware doesn't pay for BBB membership.

[Drake_Hound]

@Atakuma about BBB finally somebody shows the ignorant masses what the truth is !

It doesn't matter F rating of bioware on BBB .....

[Mylia Stenetch]

Deathstroke123 wrote...

Totalbiscuit is not nearly as reputable as Roger Ebert or Michio Kaku. Not even close.

And I can guarentee that if he disagreed with you on the ending and liked it, you'd be singing a different tune.

It reminds me when someone who came out and said the ending was okay, nothing great, hell not okay, but said the magnitude of anger is astounding on certain levels (disagreeing with the people who do not like the ending) came out and said they need to play the game and do not understand or a shill.  

[TheProfessor234]

Question.

Why do we care about a movie critic's opinion on video games?




I'll put more weight into Totalbuiscit, Yatchzee, AngryJoe, and any fricken YouTube reveiwer over Ebert any day of the week, why? Because they play video games, they know video games, and they care about them. If there was an Ebert for video games and he dissed a movie the real Ebert liked, do you think he would care? No.

Though people do need to stop taking other people's opinions and saying, "This is why I'm right."

[AlanC9]

Speaking of sitcoms, ME3's MP was plugged on 30 Rock last night.

[Cruders]

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

Cruders wrote...


You forget the magnitude difference in audiance with 100 forum topics vs BBT joke which would only increase the attention to the issue. Plus you forget that Bioware is a part of EA and more people watch BBT than read bioware forums.

On a side, the BBB has already said that Bioware/EA is guilty of false advertising, which is really bad publicity, especially when Bioware has a F rating with the bbb and EA a B-. At least 23 new complaints out of 72 (last I checked) have been filed against bioware since the launch of ME3.

On another side note, that was one blogger from the BBB saying it, not the BBB. And neither EA nor BioWare pays to be rated by the BBB, so that's why their ratings are "bad". This has been discussed ad nauseum.

This is from director at the BBB "Director of Communications at BBB of Northern Indiana. She oversees their annual Torch Award for Marketplace Trust and Student of Integrity award program, of which she finds deep satisfaction. Her goal is to educate as many people as possible regarding ID theft, scams, and both personal and professional ethics. "
The ratings being low has nothing to do with accrediation (paying for review): "BBB accreditation does not mean that the business’ products or services have been evaluated or endorsed by BBB, or that BBB has made a determination as to the business’ product quality or competency in performing services.Businesses are under no obligation to seek BBB accreditation, and some businesses are not accredited because they have not sought BBB accreditation."
btw my apologies, they only had 70 total complaints.
"Factors that lowered Bioware Corp's rating include:

• 70 complaints filed against business
• Failure to respond to 3 complaints filed against business.
• One complaint filed against business that was not resolved.
• BBB does not have sufficient information to determine size of business. BBB evaluation of business is based on rating formula's smallest size classification."

As for why it matters, it looks bad plain and simple. According to the BBB blog, a complaint has been filed with the FTC. A BBB blog indicating that yes it is guilty of falsly advertising as well as a poor BBB rating will only help the filer of the complaint (with the FTC).
This, in addition to EA winning worst company of the year award (golden poo), and the huge backlash from the fans and a few critics (I say few, because I have only seen a few, such as Mass Effect 3 Ending-Hatred: 5 Reasons The Fans Are Right | GameFront http://www.gamefront...d-game-writing/ [different writers, though same group]) has got to be bad for them.

[Grimwick]

slyguy200 wrote...

TheProfessor234 wrote...

Question.

Why do we care about a movie critic's opinion on video games?




I'll put more weight into Totalbuiscit, Yatchzee, AngryJoe, and any fricken YouTube reveiwer over Ebert any day of the week, why? Because they play video games, they know video games, and they care about them. If there was an Ebert for video games and he dissed a movie the real Ebert liked, do you think he would care? No.

Though people do need to stop taking other people's opinions and saying, "This is why I'm right."

This guy gets it.

Yes he does!

[xsdob]

slyguy200 wrote...

TheProfessor234 wrote...

Question.

Why do we care about a movie critic's opinion on video games?




I'll put more weight into Totalbuiscit, Yatchzee, AngryJoe, and any fricken YouTube reveiwer over Ebert any day of the week, why? Because they play video games, they know video games, and they care about them. If there was an Ebert for video games and he dissed a movie the real Ebert liked, do you think he would care? No.

Though people do need to stop taking other people's opinions and saying, "This is why I'm right."

This guy gets it.

On a side note. No more freaking latin, if there is a good translation use it.

That's funny because I'll take Doug walker, James Rolfe, Noah Antwiler, Lewis Lovhaug, Ed Glasser, Brad Jones, Joe Varga, yatchzee and tobuscus's opionions over eberts as well, and over totalbuiscit's post.

[Atakuma]

slyguy200 wrote...

TheProfessor234 wrote...

Question.

Why do we care about a movie critic's opinion on video games?




I'll put more weight into Totalbuiscit, Yatchzee, AngryJoe, and any fricken YouTube reveiwer over Ebert any day of the week, why? Because they play video games, they know video games, and they care about them. If there was an Ebert for video games and he dissed a movie the real Ebert liked, do you think he would care? No.

Though people do need to stop taking other people's opinions and saying, "This is why I'm right."

This guy gets it.

On a side note. No more freaking latin, if there is a good translation use it.

This guy does not get it. He missed the point by a mile.

[Drake_Hound]

The FTC matters , not that FTC will do anything about it , the golden poo doesn't matter other then stock price dropping a bit cause people dumping a poo winner .
But what matters are ME3 sales figured even at 40 and not being sold well enough .
That matters ....

Sorry BBB doesn't matter one bit in this story , and neither would golden poo if bank of america won it .
That EA won it , ans markting didn't say we had to fix our image .
Neither 30 days free SWTOR , free 2 DLC , bargained prices on EA games , give away on twitters would have happened .

If marketing was like Bank of America , says screw image we got the money .
Nobody here would cry a tear , infact all can go be banned and fight microsoft for EULA .

[TheProfessor234]

This guy does not get it. He missed the point by a mile.

Since I'm late to the thread, could you please reiterate what the point is then please?