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[Gaurthurt]

imo still more real is having diffrent species children then FTL

^1 up

becouse we want have children with our LI

Modifié par Gaurthurt, 04 mai 2012 - 09:08 .

[Karimloo]

Legion64 wrote...

Karimloo wrote...

Legion64 wrote...

If it was logically possible, we would have seen some more Quarian/Human couples in the Mass Effect Universe. And the only human relations I've seen are Human/Human and Human/Asari.

Nothing else.

Nothing is logical in Mass Effect. You're constantly forgetting thousands of fallacies in the entire series.

They can have a baby. Get over it.

Just because it's in space means we can just dumb things down to space magic? Your argument is kind of irrelevant. As you have no explaination for them having a baby. I at least do. Everyone that says they cannot has an explanation. Yet, you say they can, but the only argument you have is your ignorance.

But we did, BioWare did. Explain Asari reproduction, Explain Reconstruction on the Molecular level, Explain Biotics.

And I'm ignorant? PFFFT.

[AlanC9]

Actually, I think the argument he has is that he really, really wants it to be true

[Legion64]

Karimloo wrote...

Legion64 wrote...

Karimloo wrote...

Legion64 wrote...

If it was logically possible, we would have seen some more Quarian/Human couples in the Mass Effect Universe. And the only human relations I've seen are Human/Human and Human/Asari.

Nothing else.

Nothing is logical in Mass Effect. You're constantly forgetting thousands of fallacies in the entire series.

They can have a baby. Get over it.

Just because it's in space means we can just dumb things down to space magic? Your argument is kind of irrelevant. As you have no explaination for them having a baby. I at least do. Everyone that says they cannot has an explanation. Yet, you say they can, but the only argument you have is your ignorance.

But we did, BioWare did. Explain Asari reproduction, Explain Reconstruction on the Molecular level, Explain Biotics.

And I'm ignorant? PFFFT.

Actually there is an explanation for biotics. Do you not read the codex? I think you're just trolling now. No one can be this stupid.

[Karimloo]

Actually, I couldn't care less, as I'm right now playing Ghost Recon and AVP games. I couldn't care at all about whether or not they can have kids.

Nor do I care enough about Quarians to be a fanboy. But seeing you all attack one person because they share a different opinion on fiction is just funny and sad at the same time. And nothing is logical in anything based on fiction. Hence it being Sci-Fi.

[Ravensword]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

I really don't see why so many people on this forum care about having children anyway.

Baby back ribs.

[Xellith]

Gaurthurt wrote...

Is it possible in ME3 universe to quarian and human have a childrens?

No.

[Karimloo]

Legion64 wrote...

Karimloo wrote...

Legion64 wrote...

Karimloo wrote...

Legion64 wrote...

If it was logically possible, we would have seen some more Quarian/Human couples in the Mass Effect Universe. And the only human relations I've seen are Human/Human and Human/Asari.

Nothing else.

Nothing is logical in Mass Effect. You're constantly forgetting thousands of fallacies in the entire series.

They can have a baby. Get over it.

Just because it's in space means we can just dumb things down to space magic? Your argument is kind of irrelevant. As you have no explaination for them having a baby. I at least do. Everyone that says they cannot has an explanation. Yet, you say they can, but the only argument you have is your ignorance.

But we did, BioWare did. Explain Asari reproduction, Explain Reconstruction on the Molecular level, Explain Biotics.

And I'm ignorant? PFFFT.

Actually there is an explanation for biotics. Do you not read the codex? I think you're just trolling now. No one can be this stupid.

Oh so now you're name calling then right? Shows your capacity to debate. When you don't agree you attack, good show. Biotics is impossible, Mind Babies are impossible, Synthesis is impossible. Why don't you focus on those arguments than picking and choosing?

You're having parts of the argument that only abide to what you can answer. Leaving those you can't.

[Gaurthurt]

watch out spoiler! but usfull
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[Legion64]

Karimloo wrote...

Actually, I couldn't care less, as I'm right now playing Ghost Recon and AVP games. I couldn't care at all about whether or not they can have kids.

Nor do I care enough about Quarians to be a fanboy. But seeing you all attack one person because they share a different opinion on fiction is just funny and sad at the same time. And nothing is logical in anything based on fiction. Hence it being Sci-Fi.

If you couldn't care less then why are you making such a big deal about people saying they can't have children?Just because it's fiction means it needs no explanation and can just be dumbed down? You sir, have the worst argument ever.

If you careless about this, why are you in this thread arguing? Everything you've been saying doesn't make sense and says a lot about you already.

[0x30A88]

The Razman wrote...

No, they can't.

Frankly, I can't even get my head round how they can have sex at all.

ME1 Tali said they have carefully sterilized rooms on their ships for that matter -- and they're still risky. I don't really know much about quarians, but only Asari, who only uses the partner's genetic material as a map to randomize gene material, can do it with any sapient species (they need the partner to be focused, see the scene where Shepard gain the cipher for how it's done the first time). Quarians are bi-gendered and Tali implies that they reproduce in a way that require body contact when she says that they need clean rooms and even if the DNA is similiar, the foreign human fluid could kill the quarian partner due to their weak immune system -- it was weak before they left Rannoch too.

I might be overinterpreting here and only imtimacy is the use for those room, but Quarians seem like a people who would sacrifice personal need for other more crucial needs for the Flotilla's ships.

Modifié par Gisle Aune, 04 mai 2012 - 09:18 .

[Karimloo]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

Ravensword wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

I really don't see why so many people on this forum care about having children anyway.

Baby back ribs.

But you don't need to make your own for that; you can just steal one while the parents aren't looking.

I'd say "there's not enough meat on the young ones" but it's kind of dark for my tastes...

[Karimloo]

Legion64 wrote...

Karimloo wrote...

Actually, I couldn't care less, as I'm right now playing Ghost Recon and AVP games. I couldn't care at all about whether or not they can have kids.

Nor do I care enough about Quarians to be a fanboy. But seeing you all attack one person because they share a different opinion on fiction is just funny and sad at the same time. And nothing is logical in anything based on fiction. Hence it being Sci-Fi.

If you couldn't care less then why are you making such a big deal about people saying they can't have children?Just because it's fiction means it needs no explanation and can just be dumbed down? You sir, have the worst argument ever.

If you careless about this, why are you in this thread arguing? Everything you've been saying doesn't make sense and says a lot about you already.

Because the OP asked a question, I told him my say in it, and obviously the guy wants it to happen to. And instead of just letting the guy have an idea or fantasy, especially one in a fictious plane he enjoys, you all jump in here, tell him and me off, shoot down any sense of imagination and just act like jerks.

If they can or can't have kids, who cares? It's just fiction and no boundaries can stop imagination, as Mass Effect is imagination of itself.

[Ravensword]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

Ravensword wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

I really don't see why so many people on this forum care about having children anyway.

Baby back ribs.

But you don't need to make your own for that; you can just steal one while the parents aren't looking.

Good point.

[Gaurthurt]

If we could see Quarian DNA structure and we could compare it to human dna we could get answer. right now we can only speculate.

[Han Shot First]

Karimloo wrote...

Han Shot First wrote...

Karimloo wrote...

Yes they can have kids.

Only if they adopt.

It is basic biology. Two species who are completely unrelated to each other would not be able to reproduce with each other. They would be genetically incompatible.

No they can have biological kids.

No they cannot.

You have absolutely no understanding of basic biology.

In order for two species to reproduce they have to be very closely related and as a result, very similar on a genetic level. With the example of the horse and the donkey, they are able to reproduce because they both belong to the family Equidae and the genus Equus, and evolved from a relatively recent common ancestor. Although they've evolved to become different species, they retain enough genetic similarity to produce viable offpsring. (though their offspring are born sterile)

Dogs and cats share a large percentage of their DNA as well, but are unable to reproduce with each other because the split on the evolutionary tree occurred far back enough that the two species are now too specialized as to be genetically incompatible with each other.

What do dogs and cats have to do with Quarians?

Unlike dogs and cats, Quarians would not share any genetic sequences with humans and would not have a common ancestor anywhere on their evolutionary tree. If the dog, which is a genetic cousin to the cat cannot reproduce with it, than why would Quarians be able to reproduce with humans?

Quarians and Humans evolved on different planets and evolved on different evolutionary paths. They are wholly unrelated to each other, and as such would be incompatible genetically. There would be absolutely no possibility of them being able to produce offspring.

Modifié par Han Shot First, 04 mai 2012 - 09:21 .

[Legion64]

Karimloo wrote...

Legion64 wrote...

Karimloo wrote...

Actually, I couldn't care less, as I'm right now playing Ghost Recon and AVP games. I couldn't care at all about whether or not they can have kids.

Nor do I care enough about Quarians to be a fanboy. But seeing you all attack one person because they share a different opinion on fiction is just funny and sad at the same time. And nothing is logical in anything based on fiction. Hence it being Sci-Fi.

If you couldn't care less then why are you making such a big deal about people saying they can't have children?Just because it's fiction means it needs no explanation and can just be dumbed down? You sir, have the worst argument ever.

If you careless about this, why are you in this thread arguing? Everything you've been saying doesn't make sense and says a lot about you already.

Because the OP asked a question, I told him my say in it, and obviously the guy wants it to happen to. And instead of just letting the guy have an idea or fantasy, especially one in a fictious plane he enjoys, you all jump in here, tell him and me off, shoot down any sense of imagination and just act like jerks.

If they can or can't have kids, who cares? It's just fiction and no boundaries can stop imagination, as Mass Effect is imagination of itself.

I didn't attack the OP I simply gave an explanation on why they couldn't. Then you said they could, I simple asked how does that work. You responded with aggression.

I wouldn't bother Han, he will just argue with the unreasonable "it's an imaginary world" argument.

Modifié par Legion64, 04 mai 2012 - 09:23 .

[Karimloo]

Han Shot First wrote...

Karimloo wrote...

Han Shot First wrote...

Karimloo wrote...

Yes they can have kids.

Only if they adopt.

It is basic biology. Two species who are completely unrelated to each other would not be able to reproduce with each other. They would be genetically incompatible.

No they can have biological kids.

No they cannot.

You have absolutely no understanding of basic biology.

I don't need to, it's fiction, imagination, sci-fi, magic.

When you look at life through an artists lense, you don't focus on limits or boundaries.
Hence why I can paint things that don't exist, why Picasso can do things like melting clocks, why Goya can make devilish scenes in his paintings.

BioWare is an artist as well, they forged Mass Effect through fiction, passion, and imagination.

This is why, Asari can reproduce in such a way, why Synthesis exists, and why Biotics can work.
Biotics explained in a ficitonal codex does not make it true in real life.

[DeinonSlayer]

No, they can't. No, that won't stop them from trying... one of the two being marooned for the forseeable future will, though.

I'm just hoping they don't pull some Jerry Springer crap in the Extended Cut and pair her and Garrus up while they're stranded...

Modifié par DeinonSlayer, 04 mai 2012 - 09:26 .

[Karimloo]

Legion64 wrote...

Because the OP asked a question, I told him my say in it, and obviously the guy wants it to happen to. And instead of just letting the guy have an idea or fantasy, especially one in a fictious plane he enjoys, you all jump in here, tell him and me off, shoot down any sense of imagination and just act like jerks.

If they can or can't have kids, who cares? It's just fiction and no boundaries can stop imagination, as Mass Effect is imagination of itself.

I didn't attack the OP I simply gave an explanation on why they couldn't. Then you said they could, I simple asked how does that work. You responded with aggression.

I wouldn't bother Han, he will just argue with the unreasonable "it's an imaginary world" argument.

You attacked me, and the OP.

You're very stubborn and rude, and when you don't agree you claim that others are stupid or unreasonable. The only fanboy here is you.

And you're fighting so that Shepard and Tali can't have a kid. That's pathetic man.

Cthulhu42 wrote...

The only thing more ridiculous and scientifically impossible than quarian/human children is a green wave of energy turning everybody in the galaxy half-synthetic. Thankfully Bioware has the good sense to not put that into the... oh...

Precisely.

Modifié par Karimloo, 04 mai 2012 - 09:27 .