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OlympusMons423 wrote...
It's funny, but even though it has been in other science fiction stories, I never really thought about what it really meant, taboo wise, or even on a spiritual, intellectual level, what something like a Tali and Shepard getting together in this way. If something was close enough to you, but obviously not the same species, what a big step it would be to take. Is it wrong? Is it hopeful and more about our soul? What really counts? Just an interesting question I think.


It's only an interesting question if you think sex or love without children is bad (that is to say, if you are a conservative religious person).

For everyone else it is pretty irrelevant where you put your best part in.

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If Human/Quarian or Human/Turian reproduction was possible, we would have seen half human/quarians or half human/turians in the games.


This. This. Oh sweet lordy this. We would have seen some human/quarians by now if it were possible. The humans have been in the galactic community for 30+ years. That is enough time for experimenting.


So by that logic, humanity is the only species capable of having children, and even among them it is rare?

You know, because we never see any children expect the human one that also appears in Shep's dream.

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Actually the OP mentioned an interesting thing but no one picked up on it. Assuming you pick the Neutral option of Synthesis Every species in the Galaxy now has a new DNA composed of Organic and Inorganic life so at that point it is theoretically possible for a human and Quarian to conceive a child I stress the word THEORETICALLY.

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Kanaris wrote...

Actually the OP mentioned an interesting thing but no one picked up on it. Assuming you pick the Neutral option of Synthesis Every species in the Galaxy now has a new DNA composed of Organic and Inorganic life so at that point it is theoretically possible for a human and Quarian to conceive a child I stress the word THEORETICALLY.


Possible. But I still see the Quarians with dextro, but it could be possible. None of the less, it doesn't matter, as Shepard dies. Maybe other humans could get a whip of dat Quarian.

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Kanaris wrote...

Actually the OP mentioned an interesting thing but no one picked up on it. Assuming you pick the Neutral option of Synthesis Every species in the Galaxy now has a new DNA composed of Organic and Inorganic life so at that point it is theoretically possible for a human and Quarian to conceive a child I stress the word THEORETICALLY.



Indeed, if we assume that this is what happens in Synthesis everyone could have children with everything. Which should make the furries happy.......

But of course that is bullsh!t, you cant change the DNA of everything with a pretty wave of light.

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We also forgot that if you save both the Quarians and Geth the Geth help the quarians to re-adapt to their home world meaning they won't NEED to wear the suits even Javik says Quarians were attractive in his cycle.

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VistaSoldier wrote...

THINK about this.
For two species to be able to reproduce, they need to be almost identical. Genetically, they need to be 99.99% similar. And even then, the offspring would be sterile and would have many genetic problems.
Let alone have two species with completely different DNA. They can't even eat the same food!

If Human/Quarian or Human/Turian reproduction was possible, we would have seen half human/quarians or half human/turians in the games.


Actually just because something is a hybrid doesnt mean its immediately sterile. 

example:
According to Wild Cats of the World (1975) by C. A. W. Guggisberg,
ligers and tiglons were long thought to be sterile: in 1943, a
fifteen-year-old hybrid between a lion and an 'Island' tiger was
successfully mated with a lion at the Munich Hellabrunn Zoo. The female cub, though of delicate health, was raised to adulthood.[8]

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Kanaris wrote...

We also forgot that if you save both the Quarians and Geth the Geth help the quarians to re-adapt to their home world meaning they won't NEED to wear the suits even Javik says Quarians were attractive in his cycle.


The Quarians look more photoshopped...

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Legion64 wrote...

Kanaris wrote...

We also forgot that if you save both the Quarians and Geth the Geth help the quarians to re-adapt to their home world meaning they won't NEED to wear the suits even Javik says Quarians were attractive in his cycle.


The Quarians look more photoshopped...


LOL, yeah that pick of Tali without her helmet was thrown together quickly even I agree there.

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Xellith wrote...

VistaSoldier wrote...

THINK about this.
For two species to be able to reproduce, they need to be almost identical. Genetically, they need to be 99.99% similar. And even then, the offspring would be sterile and would have many genetic problems.
Let alone have two species with completely different DNA. They can't even eat the same food!

If Human/Quarian or Human/Turian reproduction was possible, we would have seen half human/quarians or half human/turians in the games.


Actually just because something is a hybrid doesnt mean its immediately sterile. 

example:
According to Wild Cats of the World (1975) by C. A. W. Guggisberg,
ligers and tiglons were long thought to be sterile: in 1943, a
fifteen-year-old hybrid between a lion and an 'Island' tiger was
successfully mated with a lion at the Munich Hellabrunn Zoo. The female cub, though of delicate health, was raised to adulthood.[8]


Lions and Tigers are nearly the same geneticly. Humans and Quarians dont even have the same kind of DNA.

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Legion64 wrote...

The Quarians look more photoshopped...


But so do most human models and they are, generally, considered attractive.

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if they look similar that mean they have also similar DNA i think

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The Amino acids that compose their DNA are different this in an of itself makes combining the DNA of a Quarian and Human naturally impossible

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and then we got space magick

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Gaurthurt wrote...

if they look similar that mean they have also similar DNA i think



Then why cant we procreate with monkeys?

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Gaurthurt wrote...

if they look similar that mean they have also similar DNA i think


That...is not how DNA works

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The Razman wrote...

No, they can't.

Frankly, I can't even get my head round how they can have sex at all.




Quarians have a similar sexual dimorphism to Humans. So, it shouldn't be a problem to have sexual relations, other than extra precautions to take into account the Quarian immune system and differences in DNA ("Do Not Ingest")

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Humans share 60% of their DNA with bananas, and exactly 0% with Quarians.
Do the math.

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Well, this thread isn't weird or anything.
Unless OP has found an actual Quarian they plan on trying to have children with?

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Gaurthurt wrote...

yea but codex say a quarians are most human like species


They are the most similar in terms of looks, and have a similar sexual dimorphism. But that is the extent of it.

Reproduction is improbable. I say improbable, instead of impossible, because of radical genetic engineering. But that is essentially creating a new sapient species, if someone pulled it off. And that is highly illegal in Council space.

In Alliance Space, you have the Sudham-Wolcott Genetic Heritage Act in 2161, which keeps tight controls on genetic therapy and modifications. So, no lab grown hybrids there either.

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Based on Tali's face, clearly humans and Quarians can have children because the Quarians are basically humans with glowy eyes and fake wires tattooed/photoshopped onto them.  

Modifié par Ramus Quaritch, 05 mai 2012 - 04:55 .


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Ramus Quaritch wrote...

Based on Tali's face, clearly humans and Quarians can have children because the Quarians are basically humans with glowy eyes and fake wires tattooed/photoshopped onto them.  


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if not then you fail genetics forever

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Actually of the Humaniod races the Asari are the ones who resemble Humans the most five fingers, five toes, and the same Amino Acid DNA structure

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Jog0907 wrote...

Ramus Quaritch wrote...

Based on Tali's face, clearly humans and Quarians can have children because the Quarians are basically humans with glowy eyes and fake wires tattooed/photoshopped onto them.  


notsureiftroll.jpg

if not then you fail genetics forever


I am referencing/expressing my dislike of the stock-photo photoshop job they did for Tali and all Quarians.  I was under the impression that they looked far more alien than they actually did (or at least that Tali did not look like a supermodel).  That was lazyness on Bioware's part, plain and simple.  

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Gaurthurt wrote...

yea but codex say a quarians are most human like species


Superficially human.

Learn you some science son:
http://en.wikipedia....i/Fertilisation

http://en.wikipedia....ybrid_(biology)

Basically, the only hybrid animals we have exist within, at most, a Family of species.  There has never been a recorded hybrid organism at the level of the Order.  

To put things in perspective, you can create a mule by breeding a horse and a donkey because they're in the same Family.  But you can't breed a Horse and a Tapir, even though they're in the same Order, because there's already too much genetic disimilarity there.  Even more, you can't breed a Horse and a Bengal Tiger, even though their in the same class: Mammals.  And you can't breed a horse and an Octopus, even though they're both Animals.  And you can't breed a horse and an Elm Tree, even though they share an extremely distant common ancestor.

Now, consider this:  A tree is more genetically similar to a human being that a Quarian is, since the Quarian shares 0 common ancestry with the Human. 


So the short answer is: no, it is absolutely impossible.

Here are some specific reasons:

1.  Gamete recognition:  i.e., quarian egg might not accept human sperm and vice versa.  They might never interact at all.

Assume you had gametic compatability, which would be absurd, but lets assume it happened:

2.  Chromosome mismatch:  I would assume that they we do not have similar numberd of chromosomes and genes as quarians, the odds would be astronomoical.  But even if we did, the fact that our DNA is mismatched means that when the chromosomes lined up, it's literally impossible for them to then contain a complete list of instructions for building an organism.

Assume that somehow the chromosomes did match up, and assuming that somehow the different chirality of DNA didn't much things up, and assuming that somehow two organisms which don't share any common ancestry at all are able to produce via hybrid offspring, then...

3.  Fetal Development:  as a zygote becomes a blastocyst becomes an embryo becomes a fetus, it's constantly interacting with it's mother via the placenta and the umbilical chord.  Now you have to deal with how incompatable the hybrid offspring's biology would be with the human or quarian mother's biology.  The mother's immune system might attack the fetus as a hostile, alien entity, since it is.  The fetus might be poisoned by the nutrients the mother takes in, or even by the mother's blood and stuff.

The list goes on and on and on.

Of course, I suppose it might be possible with space magic. :wizard:

Modifié par Uszi, 05 mai 2012 - 05:06 .