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[dday3six]

Ashepard wrote...

dday3six wrote...

So we'll discuss psych which leads to the conclusion based on what you've said and how you've said it, that you're not actually good at "putting yourself in other people's shoes" and bring to light that the point of this thread is that you're trying to soothe some personal issues by doing something you feel is meaningful.  

Hmm...

Ad hominem personal attack.

Offers no supporting evidence. Doesn't know anything about the target of such attack.

Conclusion: Slightly angry cheater. Or self-titled cold read psychic.

Thank for proving my point. Your insecurities speak volumes.

[sydsyrious]

Just Cav wrote...

Ech. It's off topic, butI have to call you out on that defense attorney analogy, RANDOMvGRENADE. The purpose of the defense attorney is to preserve the Constitution of the United States of America (in the U.S., at least; that purpose obviously varies by location). The problem is that some defense attorneys (but not all) do seem to delusioned that their job is, in fact, to help criminals "get away with it".

A defense attorney's job is to defend his client to the best of his ability.  The client's guilt or innocence has nothing to do with it.

[RANDOMvGRENADE]

Unnamed_Shadow wrote...

u know ive never been on a credit glitching game or a game with uber powered weapons....but many ppl complain that there are a lot of cheaters...but i have yet to fight on a hacked game...so yeah i really cant say i care about ppl cheating cuz it has never happened to me...

are there really that much cheaters on the multiplayer?

If you believe participating in a glitch in any way is cheating, then every single player has cheated.  No exceptions.  The game has UNNAVOIDABLE glithes that may very well benefit a player without any attempt on that players part to do so.   Where do you draw the line?  Do you really want a Gestapo type gaming community?  I know I don't

[Brettic]

Iodine wrote...

Well if they didn't want to get raped, they shouldn't have dressed that way! It's not my fault they make it so easy to do. My serial raping doesn't affect anyone in the community in any way. You have no right to tell me not to rape whenever I want to, you're just jealous that you don't get to go raping.

Edit: No I'm not a serial rapist, I just don't think you people should be telling people not to rape others.

Edit2: OMG what a bunch of ignorant children, flaming me for defending rapists. and I already said I don't rape anyone. I used to but I stopped.

This is such a perfect Parody.

I wonder if they even realize this is what they sound like.

[D Wrecks]

 Ech. "Comeback" has such bad connotation. I wasn't aware we were fighting. Besides,  you were the one who introduced an idea as outlandish as a "give all" button.

Furthermore, that most certainly is not how probability works. There is a fixed probability that you will receive an ultra rare item each time you purchase a Spectre Pack, and that probability never increases. It's not different than flipping a coin. It is, indeed, likely (fifty percent, even) that any given flip will land on heads, but it's still entirely possible to flip a million coins and have them all land on tails.

[Rashala]

OKay HEre is how you spot a CRedit cheater. They have a SUPER RARE weapon at level X and play like crap.



WRONG.!!!


THat is not likley a cheater but someone letting a freind play the game with thier account to try it out and they are actaully extremely good at the game and got lucky with the draws.

[RANDOMvGRENADE]

Just Cav wrote...

Ech. It's off topic, but I have to call you out on that defense attorney analogy, RANDOMvGRENADE. The purpose of the defense attorney is to preserve the Constitution of the United States of America (in the U.S., at least; that purpose obviously varies by location). The problem is that some defense attorneys (but not all) do seem to be delusioned that their job is, in fact, to help criminals "get away with it".

Ummmm, what?  That makes no sense at all buddy.  The purpose of a defense attorney is to provide the BEST POSSIBLE DEFENSE within the realm of the law and the standards set forth by his states BAR.  You are reffering to constitutional lawyers.   

Let's leave the lawyer analogy and move to one that you can't pick apart.  You are watching a high profile case on TV.  You think the guy is innocent and you defend his innocence to your friends or anyone else interested.  He gets found guilty.  Are we to assume that since you defended his innocence that you too, are guilty of his crime?  Silly, right? 

[InfamousResult]

Rashala wrote...

OKay HEre is how you spot a CRedit cheater. They have a SUPER RARE weapon at level X and play like crap.

WRONG.!!!

THat is not likley a cheater but someone letting a freind play the game with thier account to try it out and they are actaully extremely good at the game and got lucky with the draws.

.. Who claimed that was how you spot a cheater?

Did you just make an argument.. against yourself?

[Ashepard]

RANDOMvGRENADE wrote...

If you believe participating in a glitch in any way is cheating, then every single player has cheated.  No exceptions.  The game has UNNAVOIDABLE glithes that may very well benefit a player without any attempt on that players part to do so.   Where do you draw the line?  Do you really want a Gestapo type gaming community?  I know I don't

Cue inevitable comparison that EA trying to make a good game is like the ****s.

Godwin's law states that this thread is should now be locked and you have lost the argument.

Edit: This is a joke btw, let the thread continue.

Modifié par Ashepard, 05 mai 2012 - 04:20 .

[Ashepard]

RANDOMvGRENADE wrote...

Let's leave the lawyer analogy and move to one that you can't pick apart.  You are watching a high profile case on TV.  You think the guy is innocent and you defend his innocence to your friends or anyone else interested.  He gets found guilty.  Are we to assume that since you defended his innocence that you too, are guilty of his crime?  Silly, right? 

I'm sorry to be blunt, but that's a fairly dumb analogy.

The correct analogy is someone is on trial for Murder, and you loudly point out to everyone you see that Murder is not a crime and to leave them alone!

I would fail to see why any sane person would do that if they were not a murderer or a supporter of them.

[D Wrecks]

Good job blowing what I said completely out of proportion, Ashepard. Here's your sign -- er, award.

[sydsyrious]

RANDOMvGRENADE wrote...

Unnamed_Shadow wrote...

u know ive never been on a credit glitching game or a game with uber powered weapons....but many ppl complain that there are a lot of cheaters...but i have yet to fight on a hacked game...so yeah i really cant say i care about ppl cheating cuz it has never happened to me...

are there really that much cheaters on the multiplayer?

If you believe participating in a glitch in any way is cheating, then every single player has cheated.  No exceptions.  The game has UNNAVOIDABLE glithes that may very well benefit a player without any attempt on that players part to do so.   Where do you draw the line?  Do you really want a Gestapo type gaming community?  I know I don't

Agreed

Attention all Snipers - if anyone is seen during game using the reload "glitch", you will be reported as a cheater by the self appointed MP Game Wardens.

[ZombieGambit]

Brettic wrote...

Iodine wrote...

Well if they didn't want to get raped, they shouldn't have dressed that way! It's not my fault they make it so easy to do. My serial raping doesn't affect anyone in the community in any way. You have no right to tell me not to rape whenever I want to, you're just jealous that you don't get to go raping.

Edit: No I'm not a serial rapist, I just don't think you people should be telling people not to rape others.

Edit2: OMG what a bunch of ignorant children, flaming me for defending rapists. and I already said I don't rape anyone. I used to but I stopped.

This is such a perfect Parody.

I wonder if they even realize this is what they sound like.

Are you serious? How is credit glitching comparable to rape in any way shape or form in any universe?

Credit glitching is like jaywalking. It's a victimless crime that gets you where you want to go faster and playing legitimately is like having to wait at the cross walk, you still get there, but it takes longer.

[jandrewcepticon]

But the thing is, they haven't really even fixed it. It's difficult to care about something when you know the head honcho himself isn't doing anything but just ban the guilty. Considering that banning may be punishment enough, it doesn't solve the problem of people still being able to do it. Therefore, some just couldn't care, hence making them look like they "defend" these cheaters. Most would like to just move on, instead of constantly having to see thread after thread after thread of those very very passionate about cleaning the system.

[Rashala]

FAce it the guy who started this entire thread is a mega troll jsut trying to start a flame war.

[Ashepard]

Just Cav wrote...

Good job blowing what I said completely out of proportion, Ashepard. Here's your sign -- er, award.

I'm sorry if you misunderstood, but I didn't blow anything our of proportion. You tried to state that getting free credits doesn't mean getting free items, but I pointed out that free credits does indeed mean you get more items.

But then you made a silly statement about how a trillion credits doesn't get you anything and super exaggerated the example to support your claim, so I had to pick that apart.

It's strange to claim "blowing out of proportion" when your point was silly and soundly disproved though. Must be a defense mechanism.

Modifié par Ashepard, 05 mai 2012 - 04:30 .

[D Wrecks]

Oh that's what you were referring to when you said something about murder. In that case -- wait, how is that even relevant?

[Brettic]

ZombieGambit wrote...

Brettic wrote...

Iodine wrote...

Well if they didn't want to get raped, they shouldn't have dressed that way! It's not my fault they make it so easy to do. My serial raping doesn't affect anyone in the community in any way. You have no right to tell me not to rape whenever I want to, you're just jealous that you don't get to go raping.

Edit: No I'm not a serial rapist, I just don't think you people should be telling people not to rape others.

Edit2: OMG what a bunch of ignorant children, flaming me for defending rapists. and I already said I don't rape anyone. I used to but I stopped.

This is such a perfect Parody.

I wonder if they even realize this is what they sound like.

Are you serious? How is credit glitching comparable to rape in any way shape or form in any universe?

Credit glitching is like jaywalking. It's a victimless crime that gets you where you want to go faster and playing legitimately is like having to wait at the cross walk, you still get there, but it takes longer.

It doesn't have anything to do with comparing, thats what they sound like.

It's called mockery, you take their argument, replace it with something else, and see if it sounds utterly ridiculous.

What you are doing is looking for an equivocation in the cases where there is none, and then stopping right there without looking at what the overall purpose or meaning is. You are just stuck on a single detail that doesn't have anything to do with it.

Modifié par Brettic, 05 mai 2012 - 04:34 .

[RANDOMvGRENADE]

Ashepard wrote...

RANDOMvGRENADE wrote...

Let's leave the lawyer analogy and move to one that you can't pick apart.  You are watching a high profile case on TV.  You think the guy is innocent and you defend his innocence to your friends or anyone else interested.  He gets found guilty.  Are we to assume that since you defended his innocence that you too, are guilty of his crime?  Silly, right? 

I'm sorry to be blunt, but that's a fairly dumb analogy.

The correct analogy is someone is on trial for Murder, and you loudly point out to everyone you see that Murder is not a crime and to leave them alone!

I would fail to see why any sane person would do that if they were not a murderer or a supporter of them.

The correct analagy is the one I typed.  Defending cheating was equated to mean that you are cheating.  Lawyer defends his client saying what he did was not illegal does not mean said lawyer breaks the law.  Don't rewrite my posts wildly out of context to support your strawman argument.

Modifié par RANDOMvGRENADE, 05 mai 2012 - 04:33 .

[Ashepard]

Just Cav wrote...

Oh that's what you were referring to when you said something about murder. In that case -- wait, how is that even relevant?

I can explain this to you clearly in case you have difficulty understanding. Mr. RANDOMvGRENADE mentioned an analogy about a high profile court case to defend his view.

I must be so silly to even associate a high profile TV court case that he mentioned with Murder, because CLEARLY Murder is never related to any sort of high profile TV cases.

Do you really have difficulty comprehending, or are you just trying to cherry pick some stuff I said out of context to make yourself seem like a "winner"? Because if you keep trying to take things out of context, I will be more than happy to explain.

[RANDOMvGRENADE]

cly57 wrote...

RANDOMvGRENADE wrote...

Unnamed_Shadow wrote...

u know ive never been on a credit glitching game or a game with uber powered weapons....but many ppl complain that there are a lot of cheaters...but i have yet to fight on a hacked game...so yeah i really cant say i care about ppl cheating cuz it has never happened to me...

are there really that much cheaters on the multiplayer?

If you believe participating in a glitch in any way is cheating, then every single player has cheated.  No exceptions.  The game has UNNAVOIDABLE glithes that may very well benefit a player without any attempt on that players part to do so.   Where do you draw the line?  Do you really want a Gestapo type gaming community?  I know I don't

Agreed

Attention all Snipers - if anyone is seen during game using the reload "glitch", you will be reported as a cheater by the self appointed MP Game Wardens.

LOL, not just snipers, any infiltrator who reloads faster than me is EXPLOITING AND SHOULD BE PUNISHED.    LOLOLOLOL

[D Wrecks]

What I'm having trouble comprehending is how the role of a defense attorney has any sort of connection with cheaters, methods of cheating, and defending cheaters.

Modifié par Just Cav, 05 mai 2012 - 04:42 .

[Ashepard]

RANDOMvGRENADE wrote...

The correct analagy is the one I typed.  Defending cheating was equated to mean that you are cheating.  Lawyer defends his client saying what he did was not illegal does not mean said lawyer breaks the law.  Don't rewrite my posts wildly out of context to support your strawman argument.

I believe you clearly don't have any inkling of how law works. A lawyer will claim that the client did not commit a crime, or that there is insufficient evidence of a crime, but a lawyer will never say that a crime was not illegal. A crime, by its definition, is illegal.

To repeat in case this was too long for you, a lawyer will never try to argue a crime is not a crime, only that the client may never have done it.

In this case, claiming not to have glitched is not evidence of glitching. But saying that glitches are OK and totally great probably means you're a glitcher.

Honestly, you need to think harder to find a analogy that "cannot be picked apart". Because that analogy made no sense and pretty much fell apart by itself.

Modifié par Ashepard, 05 mai 2012 - 04:40 .

[Ashepard]

Just Cav wrote...

What I'm having trouble comprehending is how that discussion has any sort of connection with cheaters, methods of cheating, and defending cheaters.

It doesn't relate at all. I responded to you because you first claimed I was "blowing things out of proportion", and then took "Murder" out of my context to try to make it seem like I was comparing Murder to credit glitching in an attempt to "win". When I clearly was not.

Then when I pointed all of your out of context posts you went back to "Well how does that discussion relate to cheating?."

The answer? It doesn't, but you insisted on moving the conversation that way by making out of context posts that I countered by explaining.

Care to make any other misleading comments?

Modifié par Ashepard, 05 mai 2012 - 04:44 .

[RANDOMvGRENADE]

Ashepard wrote...

RANDOMvGRENADE wrote...

The correct analagy is the one I typed.  Defending cheating was equated to mean that you are cheating.  Lawyer defends his client saying what he did was not illegal does not mean said lawyer breaks the law.  Don't rewrite my posts wildly out of context to support your strawman argument.

I believe you clearly don't have any inkling of how law works. A lawyer will claim that the client did not commit a crime, or that there is insufficient evidence of a crime, but a lawyer will never say that a crime was not illegal. A crime, by its definition, is illegal.

To repeat in case this was too long for you, a lawyer will never try to argue a crime is not a crime, only that the client may never have done it.

In this case, claiming not to have glitched is not evidence of glitching. But saying that glitches are OK and totally great probably means you're a glitcher.

Honestly, you need to think harder to find a analogy that "cannot be picked apart". Because that analogy made no sense and pretty much fell apart by itself.

Have you ever even seen a court case?  Been to court?  Watched an episode of law & order even?  What country do you live in where  "
 a lawyer will never try to argue a crime is not a crime, only that the client may never have done it. "  RIDICULOUS STATEMENT.