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#126
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Thomas Abram wrote...

Good morning,

I love me a good cup o' BSN before I turn on TSN in the morning and I just want to make this very clear:

Credit exploitation via host migration is considered cheating.

Please keep this thread on topic and stay away from any personal insults/jabs, flame baiting and trolling.

I'll be lurking :ph34r:


Just to be clear, I was not making the distinction between glitching/exploiting and cheating.  I was simply breaking down the math.  What my statement boiled down to was it is essentially a waste of time to do it, and if anyone got something different out of it than that,  they obviously did not read the entire post.  I think it is pretty messed up that again, though you address the exploit, you give ZERO INDICATOR as to whether or not it is going to BE FIXED.   

Kind of a *****y way to treat a loyal customer/fanbase.   Makes me sad how jaded your company has become.

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The Protheans wrote...

xtorma wrote...

The Protheans wrote...

Thomas Abram wrote...

Good morning,

I love me a good cup o' BSN before I turn on TSN in the morning and I just want to make this very clear:

Credit exploitation via host migration is considered cheating.

Please keep this thread on topic and stay away from any personal insults/jabs, flame baiting and trolling.

I'll be lurking :ph34r:


Why did you make it a feature if you consider it "cheating"?


It's not a feature lol, they have already said as much. Selective reading ftw.


How isn't  it a feature?


It isn't intended.

If you could select to do wave 10 right from the get-go, that would be a feature.

Exploiting host migration was clearly not intended, just the way I had to type that out, exploiting host migration, you know from the get-go it is a bannable offense.

Really, it is just a matter of people who are scared of being banned begging not to get banned.

Kind of a *****y way to treat a loyal customer/fanbase.   Makes me sad how jaded your company has become.


You have moved from stage 1 of acceptance, denial, to stage 2, anger.

Next, you will beg for a compromise.

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#128
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The Protheans wrote...

xtorma wrote...

The Protheans wrote...

Thomas Abram wrote...

Good morning,

I love me a good cup o' BSN before I turn on TSN in the morning and I just want to make this very clear:

Credit exploitation via host migration is considered cheating.

Please keep this thread on topic and stay away from any personal insults/jabs, flame baiting and trolling.

I'll be lurking :ph34r:


Why did you make it a feature if you consider it "cheating"?


It's not a feature lol, they have already said as much. Selective reading ftw.


How isn't  it a feature?


Do you really need it explained to you? i mean be honest.

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Droma wrote...

because bugs aren't features?! learn the difference. they said it many times (e.g. right here in this thread) and also common sense would tell you that this wasn't intended and is therefor a bug. simple as that.


Doesn't that mean the ending is a bug.
They should ban it.

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The Protheans wrote...

Droma wrote...

because bugs aren't features?! learn the difference. they said it many times (e.g. right here in this thread) and also common sense would tell you that this wasn't intended and is therefor a bug. simple as that.


Doesn't that mean the ending is a bug.
They should ban it.


What is this I don't even-

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Scottus4 wrote...

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How isn't  it a feature?


It isn't intended.

If you could select to do wave 10 right from the get-go, that would be a feature.

Exploiting host migration was clearly not intended, just the way I had to type that out, exploiting host migration, you know from the get-go it is a bannable offense.

Really, it is just a matter of people who are scared of being banned begging not to get banned.


But you can select to do wave 10, you need to do wave 10 first and then die and then your host friend is sick and needs to leave, then he is better again and then you select to do wave 10 again.

It is common in games like Gears of war , you have to do the wave before you can access the feature to do it again from that point.

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srsly? you didn't like the ending ok, but it was clearly intented by them. again simple as that. it's is biowares product and bioware determines therefor, what is intented and what not. it's really that simple. not the player decides what a bug/cheat/exploit is, the programmers do that because it's their product. and they stated many times that host migration is an exploit. nothing to discuss about.

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Scottus4 wrote...

The Protheans wrote...

Droma wrote...

because bugs aren't features?! learn the difference. they said it many times (e.g. right here in this thread) and also common sense would tell you that this wasn't intended and is therefor a bug. simple as that.


Doesn't that mean the ending is a bug.
They should ban it.


What is this I don't even-


This is where people go when they know they know they have lost a debate.

#134
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Scottus4 wrote...

The Protheans wrote...

Droma wrote...

because bugs aren't features?! learn the difference. they said it many times (e.g. right here in this thread) and also common sense would tell you that this wasn't intended and is therefor a bug. simple as that.


Doesn't that mean the ending is a bug.
They should ban it.


What is this I don't even-


It wasn't as intended......

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Thomas Abram wrote...

Good morning,

I love me a good cup o' BSN before I turn on TSN in the morning and I just want to make this very clear:

Credit exploitation via host migration is considered cheating.

Please keep this thread on topic and stay away from any personal insults/jabs, flame baiting and trolling.

I'll be lurking :ph34r:

i feel for you bro. waking up to BSN...

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you know why it is called CREDIT-glitch right? certainly not because the people doing it give a flying sh.it about xp-earnings. ergo this whole claim of "its not that bad lolz!11!1" is utterly retarded

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Anyone wanna play with my N7 Eagle now xD

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The Protheans wrote...

Scottus4 wrote...

The Protheans wrote...


How isn't  it a feature?


It isn't intended.

If you could select to do wave 10 right from the get-go, that would be a feature.

Exploiting host migration was clearly not intended, just the way I had to type that out, exploiting host migration, you know from the get-go it is a bannable offense.

Really, it is just a matter of people who are scared of being banned begging not to get banned.


But you can select to do wave 10, you need to do wave 10 first and then die and then your host friend is sick and needs to leave, then he is better again and then you select to do wave 10 again.

It is common in games like Gears of war , you have to do the wave before you can access the feature to do it again from that point.



Last I checked, I couldn't unlock new weapons to start every match with when playing GoW Horde...

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The Protheans wrote...

Scottus4 wrote...

The Protheans wrote...


How isn't  it a feature?


It isn't intended.

If you could select to do wave 10 right from the get-go, that would be a feature.

Exploiting host migration was clearly not intended, just the way I had to type that out, exploiting host migration, you know from the get-go it is a bannable offense.

Really, it is just a matter of people who are scared of being banned begging not to get banned.


But you can select to do wave 10, you need to do wave 10 first and then die and then your host friend is sick and needs to leave, then he is better again and then you select to do wave 10 again.

It is common in games like Gears of war , you have to do the wave before you can access the feature to do it again from that point.



Really? You'd use the that logic to justify exploiting an the bug. It is bug that happens on that wave, an unintended bug. Also, if you have to do the first 10 waves, you aren't selecting it, because in a sense it is linear.

EDIT: Selecting would be choosing to go straight to the point (in this case, wave)

Modifié par Siliboy, 05 mai 2012 - 03:50 .


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Only problem is that the glitchers have to do like 10% of the work that non-credit glitchers do.

Go to objective... hit A... get money.

Compared to...

Fight tons of enemies..... go to objective.... hit A...... get money.... fight more enemies.... got to objective..... hit A..... get money..... clutch wave 9..... go to objective.... hit A..... get money.

See, even in text it is a lot longer!

Modifié par Drummernate, 05 mai 2012 - 03:49 .


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Rayne01 wrote...

you know why it is called CREDIT-glitch right? certainly not because the people doing it give a flying sh.it about xp-earnings. ergo this whole claim of "its not that bad lolz!11!1" is utterly retarded


Its not bad and it does not effect you or anyone else on this planet.

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The Protheans wrote...

Rayne01 wrote...

you know why it is called CREDIT-glitch right? certainly not because the people doing it give a flying sh.it about xp-earnings. ergo this whole claim of "its not that bad lolz!11!1" is utterly retarded


Its not bad and it does not effect you or anyone else on this planet.



You are being dull....

When the game designers constantly say it is cheating then obviously it is bad.

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Jay Leon Hart wrote...

The Protheans wrote...

Scottus4 wrote...

The Protheans wrote...


How isn't  it a feature?


It isn't intended.

If you could select to do wave 10 right from the get-go, that would be a feature.

Exploiting host migration was clearly not intended, just the way I had to type that out, exploiting host migration, you know from the get-go it is a bannable offense.

Really, it is just a matter of people who are scared of being banned begging not to get banned.


But you can select to do wave 10, you need to do wave 10 first and then die and then your host friend is sick and needs to leave, then he is better again and then you select to do wave 10 again.

It is common in games like Gears of war , you have to do the wave before you can access the feature to do it again from that point.



Last I checked, I couldn't unlock new weapons to start every match with when playing GoW Horde...


Yeah but you unlock new characters.

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Drummernate wrote...

The Protheans wrote...

Rayne01 wrote...

you know why it is called CREDIT-glitch right? certainly not because the people doing it give a flying sh.it about xp-earnings. ergo this whole claim of "its not that bad lolz!11!1" is utterly retarded


Its not bad and it does not effect you or anyone else on this planet.



You must be dull....

When the game designers constantly say it is cheating then obviously it is bad.


How is it bad?

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RANDOMvGRENADE wrote...

It's math.  Numbers.  Saying xp doesn't matter does not change the math.  The numbers don't lie, though many in this community do.

"Numbers don't lie" is one of the silliest cliches in the English language. Numbers are frequently meaningless, and it's trivially easy to make them lie; the hard part is getting them to tell the truth.

Your OP is either meaningless or misleading, and I think you're smart enough to know it. XP isn't particularly meaningful to most players because you can get from level 1 to 20 in an afternoon of casual pick-up play. That same afternoon might earn you 5 Spectre Packs; if you were glitching instead, by your own math, you'd earn 18 or more SPs.

The reason the credit glitch is attractive to a certain kind of player is because it's more efficient at earning credits. (You might have gleaned that from the fact that it's called the "credit glitch".) And you know that.

The fact that the global leaderboards track N7 rank isn't important. If you think for a moment what leaderboards based on credits would look like--and about the purpose of credits--you'll realize why that's not a sensible metric. Likewise, a global ranking based on gear unlocked--what would that look like? (I don't think the N7 rank makes much sense anyway, but it would be worse if it tracked credits or gear.)

The credit glitch is an exploit, and the way you know that is that Bioware calls it an exploit. It's a bannable offense because using exploits is explicitly against the ToS, and Bioware says they'll ban people for it. You're welcome to disagree, but you've failed (across multiple threads, now) to present any reasonable justification for your opinion.

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#146
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The Protheans wrote...

Jay Leon Hart wrote...

The Protheans wrote...

Scottus4 wrote...

The Protheans wrote...


How isn't  it a feature?


It isn't intended.

If you could select to do wave 10 right from the get-go, that would be a feature.

Exploiting host migration was clearly not intended, just the way I had to type that out, exploiting host migration, you know from the get-go it is a bannable offense.

Really, it is just a matter of people who are scared of being banned begging not to get banned.


But you can select to do wave 10, you need to do wave 10 first and then die and then your host friend is sick and needs to leave, then he is better again and then you select to do wave 10 again.

It is common in games like Gears of war , you have to do the wave before you can access the feature to do it again from that point.



Last I checked, I couldn't unlock new weapons to start every match with when playing GoW Horde...


Yeah but you unlock new characters.


Gears of War doesn't have that problem.

They actually have decent game designers for multi-player.

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Siliboy wrote...

The Protheans wrote...

Scottus4 wrote...

The Protheans wrote...


How isn't  it a feature?


It isn't intended.

If you could select to do wave 10 right from the get-go, that would be a feature.

Exploiting host migration was clearly not intended, just the way I had to type that out, exploiting host migration, you know from the get-go it is a bannable offense.

Really, it is just a matter of people who are scared of being banned begging not to get banned.


But you can select to do wave 10, you need to do wave 10 first and then die and then your host friend is sick and needs to leave, then he is better again and then you select to do wave 10 again.

It is common in games like Gears of war , you have to do the wave before you can access the feature to do it again from that point.



Really? You'd use the that logic to justify exploiting an the bug. It is bug that happens on that wave, an unintended bug. Also, if you have to do the first 10 waves, you aren't selecting it, because in a sense it is linear.

EDIT: Selecting would be choosing to go straight to the point (in this case, wave)


It is selecting to repeat a wave if you fail it, that is what it is.
Some people need to practice to do better.

#148
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The Protheans wrote...

Rayne01 wrote...

you know why it is called CREDIT-glitch right? certainly not because the people doing it give a flying sh.it about xp-earnings. ergo this whole claim of "its not that bad lolz!11!1" is utterly retarded


Its not bad and it does not effect you or anyone else on this planet.



sure it does not effect me directly but when someone comes to this forum and spouts nonsical arguments to justify himself, or whatever the intention behind the op was, i cannot just be like "Yup makes 100% sense he sure is a bright fellow." sorry

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because you are cheating, don't you get it? some people have moral standards. also if you don't like this explonation what about this one: imagine all (or possible most of the me3 mp gamers) would do this glitch and therefor get a ton of credits (as shown in the math in post nr1). then there would be no need to buy any packs with real money and therefor bioware/ea is essentially loosing money. it's again simple as that. but you have shown great how stupid mankind can be if they try to defend their point of view. i can only hope some bw member here will look through your data, find out you cheat and ban you.

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The Protheans wrote...

Jay Leon Hart wrote...

The Protheans wrote...

Scottus4 wrote...

The Protheans wrote...


How isn't  it a feature?


It isn't intended.

If you could select to do wave 10 right from the get-go, that would be a feature.

Exploiting host migration was clearly not intended, just the way I had to type that out, exploiting host migration, you know from the get-go it is a bannable offense.

Really, it is just a matter of people who are scared of being banned begging not to get banned.


But you can select to do wave 10, you need to do wave 10 first and then die and then your host friend is sick and needs to leave, then he is better again and then you select to do wave 10 again.

It is common in games like Gears of war , you have to do the wave before you can access the feature to do it again from that point.



Last I checked, I couldn't unlock new weapons to start every match with when playing GoW Horde...


Yeah but you unlock new characters.


By characters, do you mean skins (or models, I suppose) ? If so, then that's neither here nor there.